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Aleksandr_124rus
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I absolutely agree, some people had doubts that the development on the LFS is in an active phase. This thread proves it. I read them all as soon as they come out, and looking forward to the next, although I don't understand everything there. Such threads are very necessary not only to show the current development progress, but also to keep people on their toes about the upcoming update and so that they don't forget about it and stay and monitor about the LFS.

Unfortunately, even so, some people use such threads to express their dissatisfaction and complains. Although it's obviously out of place there. Some do not understand that they can make their own thread in the off-topic section of the forum and communicate there with those who need it. Therefore, developers have to make these threads closed.

I am grateful to the developers for their work and writing progress posts about it, it's a bit sad that only 2 people are working on the game. But as we say in Russia - you go slower - you'll go further.
Aleksandr_124rus
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Quote from Racer X NZ :Lets try this conversation.

In general, this is correct, except for:



Quote from Racer X NZ :The West has being trying to take out Russia since 1945, welcome to the Cold War.

Actually a Hot War..., see Malaya, Korea, Vietnam, Africa ( Insert every war here )

Not Russia, but USSR.
After the war, where the USSR showed itself better than all other countries against the Third Reich (if we do not take into account 1939-1941 USSR actions) And a question arose about which ideology is better, and which system is more suitable for people, socialist communism, or liberal capitalism. And according to history, the answer is obvious here.

Therefore, attacks on socialist countries friendly with the USSR were considered by the USSR as attacks on themselves, but a hot war between the USSR and America did not arise, and this is most likely due to nuclear weapons, but and the escalation grew, until the arrival of Gorbachev and the collapse of the USSR.

Quote from Racer X NZ :China is threatening to take out Taiwan so attacking any possible allies of China is high on the US game plan, and Russia, to the US, is low hanging fruit.

It's true, in economic terms, China is catching up with the US, and the globalists can't stand the multi-partisan world that Putin talked about back in 2007. But I believe that China has no allies, strictly speaking. (like 5 eyes) Formally, we are in alliance with China. But the Chinese have a famous ideoma - everything is for China.

After the start of the war with Ukraine in the UN, Venezuela, Myanmar, Nicaragua, Syria, North Korea supported Russia and accused NATO of provoking the invasion.
Just yesterday, an anti-Russian resolution was passed at the UN
Russia, Belarus, North Korea, Nicaragua, and Syria voted against.

Of Russia's consistent allies, only North Korea and Syria are now. China abstained from voting.

China makes the most profitable decisions for itself, that's all. And so far he is acting rationally. That's why I think he won't attack Taiwan. The example of Russia has already shown that attacking neighbors is a bad idea. Even if the West provokes you. Whether it is the supply of weapons or the arrival of officials. As it was for Ukraine and Taiwan. Starting a war with Taiwan is not a rational decision.

Quote from Racer X NZ :I just disagree with the way this is going, not being a fan of a nuclear apocalypse.

Yes, no one wants this, but what is the apocalypse? There will be no nuclear winter, there will be no total contamination of the earth with radiation. Destruction of all living things will not happen, this is a myth. But I agree that the use of nuclear weapons will lead to horrific consequences from which humanity can greatly reduce its population.

In the worst case scenario, all countries with nuclear weapons will destroy each other. And then I don't think there are enough warheads to destroy all the settlements and cities. (there are more strategic goals for destruction) All these countries are located in the northern hemisphere the southern hemisphere will be untouched.In addition, the factor of extremely small nuclear weapons tests over the past decades is not taken into account. Perhaps some of the bombs will explode in the launch shafts. Perhaps the Americans are doing well with this. But knowing how things are done here, I would not count on all our nuclear bombs. All survivors will simply understand that nuclear weapons are not so terrible, the deterrent will disappear. And that is probably start for global world wars.

There were times when ordinary accidents which could easily lead to puch red button, such as a false alarm of Americans protective systems, or American ships lost connection during the Caribbean crisis that already thought that a nuclear war had begun and they wanted to attack the ships of the USSR. Or Kennedy's appeal to the USSR, where he threatened to sink Soviet ships with missiles that USSR wanted to deliver to Cuba under the joint agreement. Each of these things could have led to a nuclear war but did not.

And I try to be optimistic and believe that this will not happen either. Putin may not be acting rationally, but he is not a fool.
Aleksandr_124rus
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Quote from paket42x :Провокатор - и точка.

Provocateur, full stop.

lol ok.
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Quote from sarcus :Aleksander 124 is the provocateur.Do not mind him.

What? And where did I provoke someone? only you? Big Eye
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Quote from Racer X NZ :I have respect from anyone on this forum ???

Rofl I just noticed that people don't really like abstruse people who trumping links to long articles or write long texts to explain the reasons (like me) People like simple and short answers.

You have my respect. It is always nice to talk to a person who understands the historical process and looking at the bigger picture.


Quote from UnknownMaster21 :you lost my respect of not able to get my joke .

I may not have understood it correctly either, but is it about the danger from joining NATO?

If this is so, then I do not think that this is a strong threat specifically from the of Finland government. Although this is certainly an escalation of the conflict.
Aleksandr_124rus
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Quote from NumberTwo :No matter how many jokes you do, you cant erase a fact that in 2022, government russian people voted for is waging a war and invading countries.

I'll start from the end. (btw, point 1 and 2 basicly is same thing, but i get it, need more points..)

Voting... haha, you have jokes too..There is no voting in Russia, it is an authoritarian country, do you know what it is? Any numbers in "votings" that leaders need will appear here. Do you know something about the Belarusian protests 2020? It's the same thing.

I'm joking because its a pretty hilarious that just as I argued with a Russian with brainwashed of state propaganda on the one side, I will also argue with a European with brainwashed same way with left-liberal propaganda on another side. And these positions are equally ridiculous.
It's a pity, but for some reason people don't want to think with their own heads and compare different sources of media, but instead choose one and stop thinking.


Quote from NumberTwo :we are talking about russian ukraine. Who invaded who? What does it matter the west?

Here is an example of falling under the influence of this propaganda.
You are retranslating an absolutely flat and simplified picture of the world, where there are no complications and reasons. This is an absolute misunderstanding of the situation and cause-and-effect relationships, as I said earlier. Putin has no excuses, but there are reasons to do what he does. These reasons are mostly related to the West. Not only me, but other users (no russians) have already discussed them in this topic. You may not know them, you may not accept them, but this does not cancel them, and the fact is that Putin is really motivated by these reasons.

Quote from NumberTwo :Russians have all the power to stop Putin. They dont. Use the power ..he is nothing without peoplw. He is just a senile 70 year old grandpa...as you rightly agreed already. I dont agree with you in that people can't change leadership of country. People always did that... Russians just need to find bravery to do it. Government is a representative of a country, and i sure do hope all finns party and are as cool as ms. Marin...like her very much.

but i know the strength of humans when they are pushed to the edge. And i believe. If Russians would believe Putin can be disposed off, we wouldn't be talking here.

Another example of the same propaganda, "why don't the Russians hold rallies and overthrow the government? Let's give them more sanctions so that they better understand that Putin is bad and it is necessary to overthrow him..." It's so ridiculous..

I understand that this is the first thought that comes to the mind of a European who has democracy and liberal freedoms. Does this European know that there are other societies? Where is no democracy and liberal freedoms. Has he read George Orwell 1984?..
Has he ever wondered why there is no overthrow of power in North Korea or China? To answer this, you already need to think for more than 2 seconds..

Maybe because liberal democracy and authoritarian dictatorship are not the same thing? Maybe he will try to understand how state propaganda in Russia has been trying to play on people's emotions for decades and believe in what they should believe? All the votes are forged, everyone knows about it, about carousels with buses of state employees who need to put the right ticks, about stuffing the bills, about counterfeiting by the verification commission. many people in Russia know about this.. Maybe because as soon as people take to the streets, a huge numbers the "Rosgvardiya", the police and the riot police immediately arrive which , which does is beat and squeeze into many police buses everyone who is there. And people have been in prison for months just for being in that place at that time. And people gets in jail for several years for actions like - raised the visor on the helmet to a policeman, threw an empty plastic coffie cup, tried to get out from under the hands of the police when they were taking you to the bus.. These are all examples of actual cases. All official buildings are guarded by the military in huge numbers and special troops with weapons who are ready to use it if someone gets too close. In addition, no one knows the acual location of the top leaders of Russia, it is constantly classified if there are no official meetings. There are rumors that Putin hides in special bunkers during rallies. All that changes any protest in Russia is the occupancy rate of prisons. Protest leaders (even a small ones) are killed, forced out of the country, or jailed for long terms.
And if you think that in prisons in Russia prisoners are treated the same as you have in Europe, then this is not so. If the investigator, or the jailers, need information, or they need a confession that you didn't do, or they're just bored - Violence, torture, rape, is a common thing in our prisons. And not just with jailers, they use other prisoners for this, they create better conditions for them and do not subject them to violence, they are called "activists" and it often happens that for some prisoners, torturing and raping other people is the only way out not to be raped and tortured yourself.


So..Imagine yourself in this situation and let's explain to me, a Russian under an authoritarian dictatorship, how to conduct protests in such an environment and how exactly and what exactly will they lead to?
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Aleksandr_124rus
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Quote from Racer X NZ :A suggested read for all parties

I completely agree with everything, it depends more on the United States and the West in general, what will happen next. This is if Putin does not use nuclear weapons first.


Quote from Racer X NZ :Even if nuclear apocalypse is averted

With the exception of the term "Nuclear Apocalypse".
I think it's a myth, there will be no nuclear winter, and so on. the power of nuclear weapons is probably greatly exaggerated. And I have a greater fear that after the use of nuclear weapons NOT for lethality. Yes, there will be many deaths, but there will be no destruction of humanity. There will be an understanding of its power, and the deterrent factor disappears, and the age of the wars will begin, as it was before nuclear weapons and even more.
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Aleksandr_124rus
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Quote from Bose321 :So what will be left of Russia when all people that do not support the current regime are gone? It sounds like the percentage of Putin-supporters will only grow, giving him less resistance.

If you look at this, then there is some truth in it, but some actions like mobilization, or the loss of some territories, even the most brainwashed Z-patriots ask questions, and their support for Putin is falling. The mobilization is big of forces influenced this. Among the people leaving the country, there were even people who were queuing at the border to remove their Z logos from cars.


Quote from Bose321 : I just think it's not our duty (people not directly involved) to judge and get involved with the other side. Although I honestly hope that the sanctions will give a big enough signal to Putin to stop.

How? Sanctions only affect the people, they do not affect Putin, some sanctions, like blocking a swift or blocking a visa and mastercard, help to keep the financial flow in Russia. Because banks and cards inside Russia continue to work as before, but not abroad. And it helps Putin. Why west did it? Who knows..


Quote from Bose321 : But I think everyone knows that he will not and cannot stop. But I think it's also time he can't get away with shit like this and waging his wars with surrounding countries.

I don’t know, it’s quite possible that he will stop at capturing and holding the territories of the Donbass And a sluggish front line will form, as it was with the DPR and LPR in 2014-2022. Or he will capture Kyiv and all of Ukraine. Or Ukraine will launch an even more effective counter-offensive and he will have to make concessions, or a Nucliar world war will begin. No one knows.
Aleksandr_124rus
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Quote from Bose321 :I'm not ignoring anything. I'm not saying Ukraine and the west are saints. There are plenty of wrong decisions being made on both sides. I just think there are slightly worse decisions being made on the side of Rusia every day. I mean, our leaders aren't perfect, but if the people are sick and tired of them, we can choose someone else and do something about it. Your failed dictatorship will not change until it has destroyed itself and others around it with a war. What for? Because Putin thinks he has a claim to some land? Is that worth it to send Russians further into poverty?

Yes, I completely agree with this.

Quote from Bose321 : I mean you obviously can't normally talk with you about this topic because you get super defensive because for some reason you care so much for Putin. That's fine. We're not going to agree on this. I don't hate you. Couldn't really care less about Russians, as long as I don't meet them on holidays because they're not pleasant in general in my experience.
I honestly don't think it's worth the discussion on the internet because there are two sides, two stories, and apparently two truths.

Why not? You dont know me, and apparently you don't know my position. I'm not defending Putin.
On the contrary, I said above that this is a insane grandpa who has lost touch with reality.. How can this be his defense?

Quote from Bose321 : worse decisions being made on the side of Rusia every day

Quote from Bose321 : I hope you're right about no one remembering Russia

The problem is that for some reason you equate Russia with Putin. Russia is not Putin. Putin is anti-Russia. Russia as a state ended in 1917. This is too long a topic to explain to you. But there are russians who do not support this regime. And there are many of them, but they are leaving Russia more and more.

I'll say it again - The government is not equal to the country.
Сountry of Russia is a people.
The government of Russia it is a totalitarian power with a monopoly on violence.

You can say that one support another, this is not quite true, one brainwash another, and make them believe that they do it right, they do it quite professionally. In Russia, the practice of propaganda has been operating for more than 100 years, they have learned to do their job well, this is helped by the wrong actions of the West and Ukraine.

But many people still understand what is happening
Aleksandr_124rus
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Quote from Bose321 :True. I find it interesting how these guys are still defending their country. Pretty much the only argument I now hear is 'but the west is also doing things wrong'. I would stop bothering, it's a waste of your time. I hope you're right about no one remembering Russia, but sadly dinosaur fuels are still so much needed. But I think once we find other sources of fuel, the primitive Russia will fall even more, not that there's much deeper to fall though.

It's ironic that you write this after my comment with a an answer on it, with arguments without any "but the west is also doing things wrong", and completly ignoring it.. It's like you're intentionally trying to contradict your words..and you did it. It becomes clear why you haven't seen any other arguments XD

Btw, on my comment I didn't get counterarguments. Why is that? Probably because there are no more arguments from the interlocutor..

And what "defending their country" means?
Creating arguments/counterarguments when a person is wrong is it defending the country? Ok.. then following this wierd logic, there is two options:

1) Are you too defending your country now. (Then how are you different?)
2) You have no arguments. (Then what the point of yuor message? Just sharing hate of russians? Maybe then you can describe your hatred in more detail and what it is based on?)
Aleksandr_124rus
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Quote from NumberTwo :Its primitive and telling of a country.

Ah shit, here we go again. I see you don't burden yourself with complicated thoughts..
How does the politics of specific people speak about the whole country? What does all the individual peoples living in the country have to do with one grandfather who has lost touch with reality? According to this logic, does everyone in the USA suffer from insanity? Do the people of Finland like to have parties?
The government is not equal to the country.


Quote from NumberTwo :Europe will go through it, there will be one or two rocky winters, but after that, only question will be "Russia who?". In end everyone except Russia will profit in long term.

Oh you can predict the future.. Cool. Who will win the Soccer World Cup and with what score?

Quote from NumberTwo :This will just help eu politicians realize the wrongs of their politics considering energy and environment, so we will focus on nuclear power more, along with developing gas and oil trade routes from undeveloped markets to supplement Russian trade.

In your opinion, is this the only mistake that the West has made? Is it just bad Russia spoiling everyone's life and the West and Ukraine is doing everything right? If you have such a way of thinking, then everything is very bad.. in your head.

How funny it is that in the periud when the left-liberal agenda of anti-fascism is operating in the West, which leads to pogroms and fires in cities, the inadmissibility of cultural appropriation, cancell culture that impose bans on speech, break people's lives because of jokes or irony. And the film industry is already sliding into crisis. At the same time, they show bad Russians on TV in news, movies and shows. Just everywhere. After all, we need bad characters.. who should we portray as villains? Europeans? Noo, they're ours.. North Koreans? China? Black? it would be racism. Oh, yes, exactly! Russians. It's always the bad Russians who are to blame. And in all mass movies and TV series, bad Russians are to blame.. That's the kind of hypocrisy policy (In a broad sense) that gets into people's heads..

Yeah man, we're just bad Russians, don't think it could be anything more complicated.. We're just bad Russians who only know what to drink vodka and ride bears, playing the balalaika in one hand and shooting AK47 from the other Rofl
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Aleksandr_124rus
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Some interesting things have happened in the last few days, here are some of them.


• Armed Forces of Ukraine launched an effective counteroffensive.
In particular, Kupyansk and Izyum were recaptured in the Kharkiv region, the Armed Forces of Ukraine continue the offensive in other regions, in particular in the Kherson region.

• Russian leadership announced "partial mobilization" (although before that it was only about a military operation by contracted military forces and that there would be no mobilization of the reserve, another of many lies) In this connection, many Russians left Russia.

• Russian leadership announced the accession of Zaporozhye, Kherson region, LPR and DPR to Russia.
After that they obviously hope with the help of new mobilized forces, to take the uncontrolled areas of these regions for themselves.
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Quote from cargame.nl : It's a UK war (photo)journalist which was actually there (he is now back in London for the moment).

And? What does it change? Even if he was a Jabba the Hutt from Tattooine, this does not change my words.

Quote from cargame.nl : So you call this propaganda, right, well... Thats your opinion then.

What an opinion? I gave the definition of propaganda above, I did not see that you or anyone else would dispute it and give out your own definition.And after that you throw off the source that directly falls under this definition. Becausee that source gives only one side, and is silent about the other.
Journalism - is about reporting facts on all sides, journalism does not give an opinion, does not show only one side. In case of conflicts between two or more sides. The journalist will show all these sides, show the facts that happened there. If he shows some kind of opinion of a person on one side, then he must show the opinion of a person on the other side. This is journalism.

Otherwise, it forms the consciousness of the reader\listener one-sidedly, this is already propaganda by definition. Its not in my opinion.

That's why I said before that there is no journalism anymore. All major media on all over the world is propaganda. There are only some small media that doing it in honor the duty of journalism.


Quote from cargame.nl : Never mind, its the Totenkopf SS nazi symbol. => https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62899474 (video)

If my Russian Internet would allow me to go to BBC.. But unfortunately many Western media sites are blocked in our country. I went with vpn and did not see any video there. Maybe the problem is in my vpn.

As I said earlier, both in Ukraine and in Russia there are some Nazis, (And in almost all countries) they are also in the military structures of Ukraine and Russia. But for some reason you are focusing only on Ukrainian... I find this very strange. This is just stange and wrong as some other person (who have heard enough left-liberal propaganda) that Russia is evil, that it uses Nazi symbols and Putin is almost the same like Hitler. And for some reason he is silent about other things.

There are at least 2 sides involved in the conflict, and if we take into account the West, then 3. All these sides are doing the wrong things. I don't understand why you focus on just one side that doing wrong things.

Quote from cargame.nl : Good luck with focusing on some silly Z's.

I didn't bring up the Z subject. I tell you in response that you underestimate its importance in propaganda.
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Quote from cargame.nl : This Z has not any value or do you think that showing white doves is also fascistic all of a sudden. Exclusion, apartheid, blaming whole population is one of the cornerstones of fascism. What you are writing is disgusting.

This symbol was cultized by Russian propaganda as a symbol of support for the war. Oops.. since this word is forbidden, we have introduce newspeak (like in George Ourell) Support for a "special military operation" As I wrote earlier, is not only a crime, but also a mistake, which only leads to an increase in the number of deaths, a deterioration in the economic situation for Russia and Ukraine, and a deterioration in the geopolitical situation for Russia.


Which, like Germany in 1939, began with Casus belli, (genocide of millions of Russians, Return of nuclear weapons by Ukraine, denazification, demetalization) Who thinks what kind of bullshit I wrote, then these are official reasons for attacking Ukraine...

There are many more similarities to be found. But that's not the point. The Third Reich is not modern Germany. The Third Reich is not Russia. And it not shouldn't compare to them. Just by Identity rule.
Aleksandr_124rus
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Quote from cargame.nl :look at my current avatar.

I looked, there are only pro-Russian posts: scary Azov, Ukraine bobming Donetsk, classic kiselev's "8 years" takes... this exactly is what I called propaganda. It does not even smell like journalism. There is enough of this in the Russian media.
Aleksandr_124rus
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Added some mappings to more realistic look.
Changed gear ratio to real one in cruise setup.
changed weight to real one (1550 kg)
and weight distribution like on 370z/350z - (53/47) (i dont find weight distribution info for 400z)
Changed engine redline to more realistic. (6800 rpm)
Aleksandr_124rus
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Changed default setups, changed gearbox to 6 gear, removed front wing aerodynamics.
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Quote from CV95 :Very good mod. Great attention to every detail. Managed to catch your streams from time to time. It was a pleasure to watch the progress.

Thanx, very appreciated.

Quote from CV95 :Noticed only one thing. Interior textures are flipped when you use RHD postion. Otherwise, everything seems okay.

Yeah, i know that, but dont know how to fix it yet.
Aleksandr_124rus
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So it published now, waiting for your feedback.
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Quote from -verde- :It can be an argument, because there is no state in modern world which could be compared to Ukraine in terms of nazi involvement in army and state policy. There is no excuse for a nation which praises nazi collaborators as national heroes. And yes, there are nazis in other countries, including Russia, but they're a minority which is hated by society.

Here we go again.. Why every time I read you I feel like I'm watching Russian TV? I'm not interested in talking with Soloviev's and Kiselev's teiks. Do you have anything of your own? No? Well, then I'll have to answer what I have here.

Quote from -verde- :Ukraine in terms of nazi involvement in army

And what? need to kill a bunch of Russian cuz of that? Mariupol is a Russian-speaking city, many of those living there identified themselves as Russians. Thanks to Russia's actions, there is nothing left of him. Like many other cities that were destroyed as a result of the outbreak of this war. And who knows how many people are still lying under the rubble.
Russia have nazi involvement in army too. So what we do then? Kill a buch of Tatars, or what? You read my message... But how it came to the Nazis in Russia who are supported by today's politics that ill mention, you did not mention it. You only mention what is beneficial to you. Everyone remembers the definition of propaganda that I gave above?

Quote from -verde- :in state policy

Show me a single one nazi in 2022 Ukrainian state policy or that is bullshit.

Quote from -verde- :And yes, there are nazis in other countries, including Russia, but they're a minority which is hated by society.

We hate them so much that we take them to work in the Wagner PMC or in other battalions like "Rusich" which fought in the Donbass... Society hates and the state works with them, a very hypocritical convenient position for someone like you.
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Quote from Avraham Vandezwin : All specialists in international agreements affirm it: there was never a formal agreement guaranteeing the USSR that NATO would not expand (neither at the signing of the Warsaw Pact, nor at the time of its dissolution, nor at any other time in history with Russia and in any agreement). It is a proven historical fact.

Yes, you're right, there is no document on paper. It was a verbal agreement, as Gorbachev and his European colleagues said. That is, Nato understood that Russia was against expansion. And that's what I was talking about.
On this occasion, an answer was even given by one of the parties to the agreement. That is - "the agreement was with the USSR and not with Russia." Very mocking.

And it was not difficult to understand even without an agreement, because it is already recognized that NATO was created as an opposing force of the USSR. And Russia is now the legal successor of the USSR. Of course, Russia does not want expansion, especially in her direction. And today Russia has already caught up with the USSR on many points, with rights, politics, brainwashing of people. Things have not changed much since the Soviet Union. Only there was a decrease in territory and ideologies.

Because the country's leadership was made to understand that when you behave liberally, you will be pushed around and ignored at best. And Russia still remembers that when you are authoritarian, if you increasing its military capabilities, and has aggressive rhetoric, then they are afraid of you, then they start listening to you. This is a very clear psychological concept.

No matter how many centuries have passed, even in the modern geopolitical world, everything is decided by force.
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It's been a long work, thanks to everyone who's been following, I've submitted the mod for review.https://www.lfs.net/forum/thread/100300-N-400S
I will be glad for your support.
As promised, I will make the mod public for everyone. And the final look of the first version.
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Quote from Racer X NZ :I suggest actually studying the history of this conflict before rushing to a decision regarding right or wrong for either side.

Yes, on my first link in this thread, I spoke about this, back on February 26th after the start of the war. In my opinion this is the real reason of the war. Not Nazis, not demilitarization, not chemical laboratories, not nuclear developments of Ukraine. Namely, the expansion of the NATO bloc. Which was expanded in violation of the agreements between the West and the Soviet Union.

But it doesn't make much sense in relation to the geopolitical situation. Russia has already had a sluggish military conflict in the Donbas. This was enough for Ukraine not to be accepted into Nato (For admission to Nato, there is a rule that there should be no international military conflicts on the territory of your country) The Nazis who came to power in Ukraine in 2014 gave power to Poroshenko, in whose elections they scored about 1%. So why was there a large-scale attack in 2022? In my opinion, Putin is a consumer of his own propaganda or he is just gradually losing touch with reality for various reasons. For some reason, he decided that there are more threats from Nato now than in 2014? There are no such prerequisites until February 24. And after that, there were 2 more countries that joined NATO because of Putin's actions.
Many of Russians whom he wanted to protect died cuz of Putin decisions. The northern front of the offensive was defeated.
And the conflict has been protracted for more than half a year which was the result of the death of tens of thousands of Russian and Ukrainian civilians.. where I personally do not make a distinction, and even before 2014 I considered Russians and Urkains to be one people. Almost all Ukrainians spoke Russian, even in Kyiv, and they were carriers of the same culture. But Putin is doing everything so that the Ukrainians have their own national identity. Now speaking Russian in Ukraine is becoming more and more unacceptable. He makes Ukraine a full-fledged nationality.

In my opinion, this war is not only a crime, but also a geopolitical mistake. Which today has not brought anything but deaths, a worsening economic situation, and a worsening of the geopolitical situation for Russia.
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Quote from timdecnodder :The acceptance of other’s commiting a crime and not saying/protesting it can be viewed as a crime itself, called Ommision. Something for which many Germans would be guilty of, also how they are still sentencing old employees of the concentration camps with. But many of the German populance in 1930-1940 knew about it and did nothing, so by voting in that leader, election after election, i can understand foreigners blaming the people who elected him for allowing that to happen.

Some people don't know what to do, some people are afraid for their families or loved ones, some people don't have the opportunity...
If a person publicly took out a knife in front of you, and while you were thinking, stabbed a person standing next to you and ran away. Then it's your fault? Because I didn't react fast enough? Or because you're scared? Don't you understand that this is nonsense? All people are different, who are not very smart, but very kind, someone reacts slowly, although he knows a lot of things. You can not apply to them the guilt of what they did not do the same. If a dying person lies in front of you, and you do not know how to help him, you can't be punished for hes die.


Strictly speaking, you can't be judged for something you didn't do. Crime is an act.
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Quote from cargame.nl :It's propaganda, daily bombardment of lies, twisted stories and social media group forming.

Yes, it was just like you said. But what is "propaganda"? I understand propaganda as a intentionally biased presentation of information from the media. (Lie, half-truths, showing only one side of the truth when in fact there is another)

But you also show only one side of the truth here.

Maybe it's okay to tell only one side of a person who knows nothing about it. But in this message, I just don’t understand then how to separate you from someone who has heard enough of propaganda.

Quote from cargame.nl :Right.. you are watching the wrong photos.

Maybe that flag needs some clarification. Its the Ukrainian Insurgent Army flag. It stands for ultra right nationalism and can be classified as worse as nazism or even worse then that. It represents genocide

I can tell more but most people of your type are complete deaf/blind. I really wonder how thats possible!

This is true, these things happened. As well as about the Azov regiment, as well as about the right sector, and about Yarosh. And the neo-Nazis who came to power in Ukraine in 2014. But If we talk about today, there are nationalists and Nazis in Ukraine. They are in Russia, they are in almost any country. I dont see how it be an argument for anything.

You could find the same photos from the "Russian Marches" in Google, you could find a former high official, and the former head of Rosskosmos Dmitry Rogozin, who throws a zig heil at one of these marches. Or about Alexey melchakov. Or about "Restruct". Or about the battalion "Rusich", which has been fighting in Ukraine since 2014 and is a combat unit of Russian neo-Nazis. Or about other similar units. And many similar things in Russia. I just listed the ones that popped into my head first.
Based on your comment and how you wrote it, I doubt you knew about it.

All that you have written are the things that the Russian media constantly talk about, which all other countries call propaganda. And I can confirm that. Our media often openly lie, substitute the truth or speak only about one side beneficial to the country's leadership. The Russian media different from many others that it is state propaganda.

I don't think there are still objective mass media right now in the world. Everyone is doing propaganda. And if you think you are not exposed to propaganda now, then I doubt very much. Everyone is exposed to it, even me. The main thing is to begin to understand this, and read the maximum number of conflicting sources. To start getting closer to the truth.
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