I've upgraded three servers (LOTA League Server 1, LOTA League Server 2, and www.CoRe-Racing.com), as well as started two new servers (LOTA Test Server 1 & LOTA Test Server 2) and I am getting mixed results with how they are listed in LFS World.

The LOTA League Server 1, and LOTA Test Server 1 & LOTA Test Server 2 are all showing as S1 in LFS World, while the rest are showing as S1. I've gone to the trouble of copying the entire config file from one of the servers that shows as S2 (and of course made the appropriate changes), yet those three still show as S1. All are connected to the relay and all act as if you can connect via S2.

That's because html code is not valid in the LFS News interface. Only the basic BBC codes are valid (size, bold, italics, url, & attachment), and I'm not even sure you can use those in the comments.

All working now, Victor...thanks!

OK, so now that we've cleared up the multiple results listing on a single post, is it possible to put a time stamp on each result entry to that the "New results description" and it's time stamp can be used to link the results update as a headline?

EDIT: Bah! I added results to the wrong post! I added results for the RallyCross Championship (news post http://www.lfsworld.net/?win=news&nid=23#), when it was meant for the XRT Stock Car Cup (news post http://www.lfsworld.net/?win=news&nid=10). Any way to move it? Any way to just delete the misplaced results?

Last edited by banshee56, Mon, 10 Nov 2008 16:59.

I think we might be on a different page here. Can you add multiple results entries in a single news post?

I.E. After race 1 on November 9th, I would go add results for the XRT Stock Car Cup to the news post. After race 2 on November 16th, can I go back to that same post (http://www.lfsworld.net/?win=news&nid=10) and make an additional entry for results, or do I have to make a new news post?

For the results updates headlines, I was referring to the possibility that each successive results entry on a single post would have it's own time stamp, so that a reader could see that I've added results information to that one post. That headlines area would only show those updates and not new news post listings.

EDIT: GAH! Stoney beat me to it!

***On a side note, I just tried to add results to the XRT Stock Car Cup news post, and got an error. To set up the explanation, you'll need to know the points structure I tried to enter: The series events has 3 races per event, plus bonus points. There is an individual plus a team championship. The way I configured the results columns was this: username, playername, team, car, points (from race 1), points (from race 2), points (from race 3), points (bonus), penalty, and total points. Each time I entered info, it gave me an error claiming incorrect car info in the field where I was entering total points. Was this operator error, or something else? (See attached pic)

OK, I see the changes you've made. With a multiple series league like that which I am involved, LFS News per the suggestions I made might have worked like this:

Registered League: League of the Americas

1. Series #1: Submit a news post for one season of series #1
   • Results added for round 1
     
   • Results added for round 2
     
   • etc etc
     
2. Series #2: Submit a news post for one season of series #2
   • Results added for round 1
     
   • Results added for round 2
     
   • etc etc
     

OK, now that the season information is in the league registration area, I'm likely going to be doing this:

Registered League: League of the Americas Series #1

1. Season #1: Submit a news post for season one of series #1
   • Results added for round 1
     
   • Results added for round 2
     
   • etc etc
     
2. Season #2: Submit a news post for season two of series #1
   • Results added for round 1
     
   • Results added for round 2
     
   • etc etc
     

Not really a lot of differences between the two in that each news post will be about a single season, with all of it's season's results added as they happen. I suppose each news post could be updated to include a small round report in the main body rather than just above the results listing.

The real difference that I see here (at least relative to a league like LOTA), is that to structure the news correctly and have all of a season's results/news in one post and cut down on post count, I will have to register each series that LOTA runs as it's own league. Compared to the majority of leagues in LFS, each LOTA series is basically a separate league in and of itself. Registering each series won't be a huge deal, at least until you consider the way you can currently filter the news. If I have to register each LOTA series as a separate league, then people looking for LOTA news will have several different things to choose from in the filter, versus getting all LOTA-related news with one filter.

EDIT: Hmms...I've looked at it a bit longer, and perhaps I was a bit incorrect. It looks like I can add multiple seasons to a league. For LOTA, I can simply add a season called Series #1 Season #1, add another called Series #2 Season #1, etc etc.. That would work pretty well.

EDIT2: Something else I was meaning to ask about your response was about my "headlines" suggestion. To make this work, you would have to apply a time stamp to the individual results entries of each post. Is that possible? I'm just curious how you are going to extract the headlines from updates made to news posts.

Last edited by banshee56, Mon, 10 Nov 2008 14:37.

Quote from Victor :

I'm afraid I don't really understand your post. Would it be possible to illustrate it somehow?

This example is based on a guideline regarding news post submittal:

1) News posts can be about LFS general news, league season announcements, league champion announcements, and single event announcements.

2) Any results updates must be posted in the league/series season announcement post. You already have the "New results description", which would be the part of the headline. For example, in the picture below, the first headline reads "League of the Americas: XRT Stock Car Cup Winter 2008 - Banshee56 wins Round 2!". There you have the league title, the series/season post title (in this case "XRT Stock Car Cup Winter 2008"), and the "New results description" ("Banshee56 wins Round 2!"). See Pic #1

3) If you want to take it one step further, in the results interface, you could add an area (length limited, of course) for a short race report listed just above the results. See pic #2.

The overall intent of this suggestion is to give leagues a single place to have all of the news about a league/season in one place, rather than 10 different round results posts about a 10-race league/season. Not only would it help the reader to see all the news about a single season in one place, but the overall news interface would appear more organized. Every league admins wants his/her news at the top as long as possible and with multiple leagues posting single round results, each post will get shuffled down very quickly.

EDIT: On the RSS feed, only the news post title gets submitted. Like Duke's suggestion, it would be good to add the league title/abbreviation to the RSS feed items.

Last edited by banshee56, Sat, 8 Nov 2008 18:24.

Quote from banshee56 :

Good point about the time stamp. Here's some thoughts on the news interface relative to leagues/series and single events:

The main interface could be split into two sections (each sorted by timestamp):

1) For General LFS and league news and single event results posts

2) A section under that main news section that lists "headlines" (which simply could be something like "LOTA XRT Stock Car Cup - Winter 2008 Season - Race 1 Results"), that would be linked to the results entry of the same name within the series post. (I use the term 'series' because we call LOTA a 'league' and each type of racing a 'series', which then have coded season names.)

When filtering by league, a similar interface would show up with non-series specific news on top and the same results headlines.

Victor...any thoughts on this?

Agreed...thanks for your honesty. The solution you guys came up with was the best possible solution.

CoRe Racing hopes to see Mercury Racing continue in MoE.

Quote from Victor :

1) well, it's kind of intended for single news 'events' yes. But, you can edit your post as many times as you want and you can add multiple results per post, so you can keep adding to a post as you go.
But if you'd do that, currently the post timestamp would remain the same, so the post would not appear on top, in the public eye when you add results, unless people will filter by your league (not yet added).

Good point about the time stamp. Here's some thoughts on the news interface relative to leagues/series and single events:

The main interface could be split into two sections (each sorted by timestamp):

1) For General LFS and league news and single event results posts

2) A section under that main news section that lists "headlines" (which simply could be something like "LOTA XRT Stock Car Cup - Winter 2008 Season - Race 1 Results"), that would be linked to the results entry of the same name within the series post. (I use the term 'series' because we call LOTA a 'league' and each type of racing a 'series', which then have coded season names.)

When filtering by league, a similar interface would show up with non-series specific news on top and the same results headlines.

Number of leagues in LOTA: in the past 2 years, we've run 14 different types of series: http://www.lfs-lota.net/index.php?action=rlm_league;sa=about That number is likely to increase over time when we come up with different racing ideas.


Some more thoughts/questions on this interface:

1) Is each news post intended to be for a single event? Can a news post be made that defines a series/league and then be able to submit event results multiple times so that each event's results show at the bottom of the series post?

2) Attachments: will there be a way view all the attachments uploaded for multiple use? Are only the attachments that I upload viewable by only me? Can the [img] tag be added to reduce the number of images uploaded to LFS servers?

3) manual Results columns: can we add multiple columns with the same header? i.e. race and bonus points?

4) Calendar events: how about a spot on the post interface to add race dates to the post, which will then be transferred to LFS Forums calendar? is that even possible?

Quote from Victor :

how about Mixed Series instead? Or do you really mean, LOTA is a collection of different leagues, for different types of cars?

LOTA is a collection of different leagues, so maybe "Multiple Series League"?


EDIT: Who approves the news posts?

EDIT2: How about an option to not show the league title if the logo is clear enough?

Last edited by banshee56, Thu, 6 Nov 2008 21:05.

Victor,

In the options to select the league type, there is only:

24 Race
Single Event
GTR League
Single Seater League
Normal Road Car League
Endurance League
Drift League

There are at least two leagues out there that have multiple series with different types of cars: LOTA and OLFSL.

LOTA has series for GTRs, open wheels, road cars, rally series, etc etc. Can you add an option for "Multiple Series"?

The RallyCross Championship is a 4-race mini-series that features the RB4 GT Turbo on the rally tracks of LFS. Bumping, jumping, playing in the dirt....some of the best fun you can have getting dirty! Knobblys? Hybrids? Will you run a soft, safe, and slower suspension to avoid damage, or harder, faster, and susceptible to damage? Pick your poison, because 23 of your dirtiest friends are waiting take advantage!

Event format is a short 15 minute qualifying session, followed by three feature races (approx 15 minutes long), with reverse starting grids on features 2 & 3. Good luck to all RallyCross Championship drivers!

Race 1 - Thursday, November 6, 2008 - 21:30 EST (UTC-5) - Blackwood Rallycross
Race 2 - Thursday, November 13, 2008 - 21:30 EST (UTC-5) - Fern Bay Rallycross
Race 3 - Thursday, November 20, 2008 - 21:30 EST (UTC-5) - Blackwood Rallycross (rev)
Race 4 - Thursday, December 4, 2008 - 21:30 EST (UTC-5) - Fern Bay Rallycross (rev)

For more informatio on this and other League of the Americas series, please visit the LOTA website.

Last edited by banshee56, Wed, 5 Nov 2008 14:21.

Victor,

LOTA would love to help test this service. We have a 4-race series starting on Thursday evening EST.

Either myself or "hollywood" would like to have access to the interface for LOTA.

Thanks!

Quote from Priitmek :

Sorry for sounding too rude, but be assured that it was nothing connected to the team or its ability to host a server. The leader of the team is just an a** and he, with his minions, has been screwing LFS Estonia around for over a month. I will not go into details, but we're dealing with a major idiot here. It' s nothing personal since I am sure that I am speaking for most of the Estonian community members, who have been suffering several times due to the actions of the person in question.

Well alright then...negative attitude properly applied then.

Nice job, Nolan! LOTA thanks you for the promo video!

My kart (not me, as these are a year after I stopped driving):





I raced dirt & pavement oval karts for 13 years, with about 50 race wins, a couple local track championships, and a national Top-4 season finish. One of the best times of my life.

Quote from Priitmek :

He is just a big failure and many already knew that this would not get far.

Nice positive attitude.

A server does not make a team, young man. And the lack of one surely does not mean you have to close the team.

You've got everything else a team needs, like members, a website, a forum, skins, etc. etc. What exactly do you need a server for? Team league race practice? Screwing around? What?

As M.vdBroek said, why can't you or one of your guys host a server when you need one? It doesn't have to be 47 slots, just big enough to do what you need.

A big Happy Birthday to Arni Arnason!

:drink: :birthday:


(well, yesterday was his bday).

Don't make me post the vroom vroom.

Quote from Mischief007 :

I ain't saying congrats Kevin. You joined the dark side. I'm blocking you from now on .

The dark side, eh?

Lukasz, I am your father.

Just wanted to make sure everyone understands that while this a LOTA series, it's not held during the weekday evenings in the US, so it doesn't have the time restrictions you may associate with traditional LOTA series.

The XRT Stock Car Cup is a weekend series held on Sundays at 20 UTC, and is catered and open to the entire LFS community! At it stands now, the registration is open and is half full. Larger grids is where the format shines with heat and knockout races in the schedule, so if you are looking for a unique, stock car styled series, the LOTA XRT Stock Car Cup is where you need to be!

For info and to register, visit the XRT Stock Car Cup page.

Quote from scipy :

I does great job in 16 h too!!! Wai I no join?

Grats burnsy

Because you have trouble finding (and turning DOWN) that "outbound" setting in Ventrilo. My ears are still ringing. True story.

No, seriously, you did a great job in the 16hrs and we genuinely appreciate you teaming up with us for the overall win!

Quote from niels1 :

Gongratz to both. CoRe is on a recruitment mission lately

Not just lately...we're always on the lookout for good drivers. We have a couple more drivers under consideration right now.

My extreme old age took a toll on my tailbone during that 16hrs race.

Dang....good thing I'm not as old as Arni, CWMAX, or PeterLaan!

Welcome, Kris! Glad to have ya!