Quote from Dennis93 :

Road tires don't have more grip as they wear down either?

Yea but this isn't solely because of tread consumption. There's thermal degradation involved. That's my point.

But as we said, it's silly to compare them. A race tyre will probably never get used again once it's been dormant for 24hours where as road tyres have big inactive periods which depending on the thermal circumstances can soften/weaken or harden the tyre.

Quote from Storm_Cloud :

although to be fair they didn't get much footage of her driving that year.

There wasn't any. She failed to qualify consistently.

Quote from Dennis93 :

Arguing something you know nothing about and/or have no experience in doing is pretty dull.

Well the reason I commented is because it sounds wrong but of course. Even so this is comparing road tyres to race tyres in terms of the experience I have, and teh experience you have and as you rightly said, comparing the two is silly.

Quote from Dennis93 :

Well, tread depth alone means grip.

As I pointed out, the more tread there is in the tire the more it can wrestle around, work the whole tire.

A tire with less rubber usually feels hard and very stiff to drive on, like there is never enough heat or even too much.

The more depth in a tire means more grip in real life.

Well I'll just have to take you word for it.

Quote from Dennis93 :

Incorrect.

Less rubber on the tire means that the rubber on the surface has less of the rubber to dig into the road with, so to speak.

If you take a microscope and look really close to a tire you see small hairs everywhere, threads across etc, the more you wear them down, the less to tire will work, and the less friction it can withstand.

Comparing the two is completely irrelevant, it just doesn't make sense.

This is not lost on me but like I said in my first post. Tread depth alone does not = grip

Though in some cases having a lower tread gauge will yield more stability because the blocks of rubber aren't moving around as much.

I think the flag has little to do with it. Kvyat will show to be at least better than Guttierez

Quote from chris_uk :

From 6/7mm of tread to 3mm not so much but from 3mm to nothing you would be supprised.. My r888's feel noticably less grippy as they approach their wear markers (1.6mm) if you keep drivinv the tyre just gets harder and harder reducing the grip.

Yea but this is real life. Where repeated heated and cooling of a tyre reduce the performance of a tyre's surface.

It won't be the tread depth that has any influence on grip levels. It will be every other kind of wear. Unless you're on the canvas there will be no difference. I mean it's a shitty analogy but it's still true. Take an eraser, it isn't any less effective just because of it's size. That would be like saying dump truck tyres have more grip just because they have a bigger tread depth.

- Improved/increased the loss of grip that occurs the thinner the tire tread rubber gets.

What the ****. Since when did loss of tread depth soley cause lack of grip?

Felíx Da Costa is for sure a big talent but although I'm somewhat shocked. I still believe Kvyat is a bigger and better talent.


Also, Kvyat did more than just straight line tests. So not sure where that butthurt comment came from.

Quote from JackDaMaster :

The race was great, anyone that says it wasn't is just proving to everyone else that they think that the race == the finish.

Since when has any super speedway race been 'great'?

It's basically just velodrome cycling, but without the human ability bit that's... kinda crucial to sport to be honest.

thanks

Anyone got a video of that?

Quote from amp88 :

I really meant my post above as a serious point. I wasn't trying to make a joke.

Maybe that's what's funny.

Music Tech, isn't that where they just teach how a speaker works?

Quote from Christopher Raemisch :

Blueflame I think you need to work on your observation skills

I think I'm too much past my prime for that.

Quote from Rappa Z :

I really hope Lotus takes Hulk and leave Maldonado either at a worse team or with no seat at all.

Agreed. He seems like the guy who's too ignorant to actually learn anything.

Quote from R3DMAN :

your confused because your a ****ing idiot...

Quote

"I received a call on Tuesday from Mike (driver and owner) telling me we had been invited"

Well it looks identical to your car.

Quote from jibber :

You probably would all shut up after Sabine Schmitz put you all to shame racing around the ring...

To be honest. I think Marc Lieb or Marc Basseng could do a better job of that.






Just sayin...

It's just like black people and swimming. There's a scientific reason why they're better suited to running and white people are better at swimming. [bone density and muscle structure]

There's no sense in ignoring the factual difference to favor 'equality'.

I'm confused. It's your car but someone else was driving.

Whilst I support women in anything they wish to do. I honestly believe women are at a disadvantage when in a car though it doesn't mean that can't overcome it. A la Michelle Mouton.

Am I the only one wishing for a return of the viagra car?

Looks like Lewis... lol