I still think that long before getting to post-mortem there'll be things they can do to light a fire under LFS. Adding in a variety of cars for one thing, not necessarily in perfect shape. And/or doing it with a more public pre-release playtesting phase.
That is IMO the main issue for LFS; the content. Evidently the engine itself carried LFS thru this long a dry spell, so to speak.
That is IMO the main issue for LFS; the content. Evidently the engine itself carried LFS thru this long a dry spell, so to speak.
To be perfectly anal, they weren't actually communists. That's semantics; yet the rest of it's the same.
You could go there, and see how a lot of what's reported by the "news media" - which is what the bulk of western people IE what the western electorate bases their votes on IE which way the wind blows for western govts to tack with - is not even wrong, because ultimately those people are human beings too.
And yet, despite those serious misconceptions, which obedient minions like asdasfsd over here will use against you like the well-trained sophists they are, the bottom line doesn't really change. Putin & co are thugs. And the bottom of the pyramid is no more defendable: when you have them following you around as soon as you enter the country, and you actually find them looking thru your sock drawer in the middle of the night in your hotel room... The propaganda just doesn't seem so compelling. Never mind when you see what it's like for the locals themselves.
That capital flight and general emigration ain't happening for no reason. And they can point at the failures of the USA and the West in general all they want. That's just truism. All countries are more or less that way, and all politicians are crooks. The truth of the pudding is in the eating. ASasdasdsfd and his colleagues just have no idea and ultimately IMHO that's one of the most tragic things.
They don't even know how wrong they are. Zombies.
You could go there, and see how a lot of what's reported by the "news media" - which is what the bulk of western people IE what the western electorate bases their votes on IE which way the wind blows for western govts to tack with - is not even wrong, because ultimately those people are human beings too.
And yet, despite those serious misconceptions, which obedient minions like asdasfsd over here will use against you like the well-trained sophists they are, the bottom line doesn't really change. Putin & co are thugs. And the bottom of the pyramid is no more defendable: when you have them following you around as soon as you enter the country, and you actually find them looking thru your sock drawer in the middle of the night in your hotel room... The propaganda just doesn't seem so compelling. Never mind when you see what it's like for the locals themselves.
That capital flight and general emigration ain't happening for no reason. And they can point at the failures of the USA and the West in general all they want. That's just truism. All countries are more or less that way, and all politicians are crooks. The truth of the pudding is in the eating. ASasdasdsfd and his colleagues just have no idea and ultimately IMHO that's one of the most tragic things.
They don't even know how wrong they are. Zombies.
http://kioski.yle.fi/omat/at-the-origins-of-russian-propaganda
Hollow rhetoric from what sounds like a teenager who's never known life under commies just a few decades ago. You really have no idea..
The more things change....
Hollow rhetoric from what sounds like a teenager who's never known life under commies just a few decades ago. You really have no idea..
The more things change....
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What he and Victor and Eric have been saying since pretty much the start of LFS is that they left their conventional jobs for LFS precisely so that they could work at their own pace.
It's an immediate non sequitur to suppose Scavier do not enjoy working at their own pace, or that they don't enjoy LFS. The former and the latter are one and the same.
He does. But for argument's sake, "Work continues as usual", or some cryptic description of a particular programming conundrum that's blocking progress, would get those or other people comparably huffy. Sometimes there just isn't anything worthwhile to report; sometimes that's the case for weeks or months on end.
And FWIW I'm on neither side of this never ending debate. The bottom line is and has always been that it is their game.
It's an immediate non sequitur to suppose Scavier do not enjoy working at their own pace, or that they don't enjoy LFS. The former and the latter are one and the same.
He does. But for argument's sake, "Work continues as usual", or some cryptic description of a particular programming conundrum that's blocking progress, would get those or other people comparably huffy. Sometimes there just isn't anything worthwhile to report; sometimes that's the case for weeks or months on end.
And FWIW I'm on neither side of this never ending debate. The bottom line is and has always been that it is their game.
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They could just release cars with unfinished art. Some generic gutted interior, and camouflaged bodywork. Call em pre-production. Give us a bunch of these, spread out across all possible permutations of engine/drivetrain/etc configurations. We test em for free incl. their TPS reports because we're so grateful.
Yup. Twice as many 4 bangers as anything else. The FXR doesn't really count, not being FWD. The ... whatever the 2L FWD boxer's called, that's just another variation on the same theme. 4 cylinder, FWD, low displacement, economically priced car. The RAC's also a 4 cylinder, and itself isn't displeasing. But it is yet another 4 cylinder in spite of the platform being an opportunity to add variety. I guess it was more exotic to have the RAC than e.g. a Ferrari or other MR like it.
There's good reasons for each 4 cylinder, but altogether they still add up to a 4 cylinder ghetto.
There's good reasons for each 4 cylinder, but altogether they still add up to a 4 cylinder ghetto.
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Old physics.
What's stopping Eric from using the forum? Users complaining about users complaining about....
Some of us are just saying.. Read that out loud: just saying.. that if they left the old tracks in as some kind of opt-in thing, it'd be cool. Yes, for nostalgia. We like the old tracks too. Even if we like the new ones more.
No biggie either way.
That sounds so damn cool 
Thanks for sharing.Generating interest in a product that's not ready yet. A friendlier, gentler hype. For profit. Somehow that doesn't sound like Scavier's way.
Driving older versions with new physics is one thing I can see some players hoping for.
Perfect fit for the Rift, too.
One of those baby bottle spouts?
That's the flip side for someone in Eric's position. Engineering is the art of making what you want from what you can get, economically. LFS tracks are encumbered by neither of the latter two.
Love pretty much all your tracks in LFS, Eric. I don't know if it's been said yet, but looking back on the sheer mileage of it all, all by one guy, on its own that's really something.
Can't wait to see and drive new and redone tracks If I may .. .. The only long term false note for me was the absence of a bigger autocross (Scawen already gave us a hint on that) and a mountain-side road course. But that's just a niggle in the big picture.
Cheers
Can't wait to see and drive new and redone tracks
If I may .. .. The only long term false note for me was the absence of a bigger autocross (Scawen already gave us a hint on that) and a mountain-side road course. But that's just a niggle in the big picture.Cheers
Thank you.
Because KY3 is not the Ring; it wouldn't "get boring". Because, like others said, enough people love the Ring. If it's released with something major like tire physics or novel like mountain track(s) (partly or completely steep like Pikes Peak or Fujimi Kaido in Forza), LFS would get some serious player exposure.
With all due respect to Scavier, Spa is another very long track, that proves the point. Not that original LFS tracks couldn't be that good. Just that KY3 isn't, as is, hence flawed comparison.
What's that saying about nice guys?
Because people wanted to go faster? Because sales was more important than they are to LFS? What is the analogy with what Scawen wants to do with LFS for LFS players? Regardless of whether that's Scawen, or players in the usual meaning.
The person himself, that is making LFS, says there's no lack of performance to get from XP. Unlike in the Model T analogy.
There's nothing strange about using what works, and nothing more. Don't fix what ain't broke.
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