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Breizh
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There just doesn't seem to be any developer willing to make a realistic shooter.
How complicated would the physics be? Modeling (overall, including gameplay, not in the strictly physics stuff) the human body's reactions to impacts and wounds etc might be the most complicated parts.
Ballistics, penetration, all that stuff is pretty simple. Havok has provided affordable, quality general physics for some time now, for all the non small-scale physics..
What else would demand substential coding? It certainly would make a lot of shooters more fun.
Breizh
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Quote from sinbad :Ok, so handicaps are not going to be track specific. I see the logic behind it, good for people doing seasons on lots of circuits. The cars will, however, be genuinely balanced on a small number of tracks. Any track where the RB4 was competitive before will now be RB4 dominated. So it's not as much help for the majority of racers who just pick-up and play, same problem, different cars.

Still, FXO seems slower overall, which was the main objective in TBO I suppose.

If handicaps are able to be scripted, then we can adapt them to each track in the server's rotation.

About erroneous false-start penalties: I've always seen MPR replays where cars would jitter around a bit while on the grid, before the green light came out.
So it seems to be an extrapolation error somewhere, because I've always seen the same thing online in real time - cars jumping around a bit, apparently just revving their engines or moving their steering wheel about, and sometimes not doing anything (as far as I could tell).
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Breizh
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Fun yes, but "pure simulation"?
PK machine gun VS bus driver behind his windshield is ineffective, bullet holes in bodies are always the same, rubber boats don't sink when you strafe them, helicopter blades are tree-proof, .50 cal doesn't get past car doors.. arcade vehicle physics?
And no ragdoll.
Breizh
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Neither TBO nor LRF cars are WTCC spec.. The U and XFR are.
Breizh
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Metal clank in the back of what? The gear shift sound?

There's way too much clutter in this thread.
Breizh
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I don't mean to add clutter to the thread, but -

Narcis, can't you look at the handicaps used in an .spr with F11?
Breizh
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KKK supercharged.

It looks ok in a novel way, like the Dodge Viper did when it came out. That hood on the back, though, has a reflectivity that looks a little cheap. The difference with the rest of the bodywork makes it look improvised.
Breizh
S2 licensed
LOL Just build yourself a bunker That way you don't even have to pretend to have any sovereignty in your own country!
Whatever you do, there will always be frivolous lawsuits, and other assorted BS, like you admit yourself. So why even account for them in what you (supposedly would) do?
They will happen anyway. The only stark reality would be judges not knowing better and giving credence to those cases.
Breizh
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You draw the line that best benefits the economy.

Loop holes bigger than the ones that've let those 12M+ through already?
You "feel", but don't have any hard facts to base it on? That's just blind speculation, then.
The simple math of it is that all the negative side effects of the illegal population would disappear (DUI hit and runs, ER clogging, ID theft, voting fraud, trash in the streets, etc), and all the positive side effects of a respectable portion of that population residing and being employed legaly would remain, and in fact, be improved, if only because they'd actually follow the laws and unburden the system, rather than dodge them and add to the overhead.

Lawsuits because your country hasn't got the same quota as others? Are you serious? Why not lawsuits because green card lottery quotas of a certain year aren't advantageous to one country or another?
Frivolous lawsuits aren't an immigration or guest workforce problem, they're a stuck on stupid problem by lawsuit-happy unhappy people.
Breizh
S2 licensed
some sort of mass roundup would be the equivalent to economic suicide. A "temporary worker" permit would be a red-tape nightmare.
No, and certainly no worse than a massively unregulated swarm of parasites, like now.

Enforcing current laws to a "T" would also be shooting ourselves in the foot.
No, it'd mean everything would be as it should be.
Laws are not meant to be followed.. that's a good one.

We're kinda screwed on this." .. As long as politicians are so crooked.

By the way, What does Charlie Gordon get?
Burnt rubber?
Breizh
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Do extra chores for your parents, get the best grades you can, etc.
Breizh
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It was wrong then, and it's wrong now. I don't see the ambiguity.
Breizh
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Quote :points system that is used, thereby total points totals will be calculated at the conclusion at the event [...] number of races, number of laps in each race, reverse grid races

Already being done on a number of servers, by scripting.. STCC and Otolikos' Open GTR cup are two examples.
Quote :- the name of the event, round number etc

From the scripts I've seen, this should be possible, not via LFSW, but as an output to file.
Breizh
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I don't mean to derail the original topic, but how can you have mixed feelings about illegal aliens?
They are living and exploited like slave labor. It will be better for everyone (except greedy crooks and politicians) when the laws are respected, and immigration + employment done according to the rules.
Breizh
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No kidding.. the Mexican border holds no one out, nearly everyone in, except for the Mexican military, which gets to trespass and shoot at Americans, pretty much daily.
Illegal immigrants are not deported. The police will sooner arrest you for riding without a helmet, than notice the illegal passed out on the street, beer in one hand and a patch of fresh pee on the nearest wall.
Laws in place to deal with illegal immigration are not enforced, and as far back as the 60s-70s, politicians have had illegals show up to voting booths with fake IDs provided.

It would be simple to just apply the existing laws that would jail or otherwise severly penalize hiring illegals. It would give illegal immigrants no reason to immigrate, and would allow for a legal system to be put in place to employ necessary labor legaly, as opposed to having the parasites leeching away.. But Republicans like the cheap labor, and Liberals the cheap votes.. and the Mexican govt. the money sent back home. It even prints guides to succesful illegal immigration into the US.

And that's just one of the things worth as much attention as Iraq has gotten.
Breizh
S2 licensed
Yes Keichi, that's the intent.. to have a more balanced class, with those tweaked demo cars being a bit easier to drive near their limit.
Breizh
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Is this another scapegoat knee jerk thread? I've been to a lot of countries, and it's the same everywhere.. there's always a foreigner that's responsible for this or that woe.
Some farmer in some middle of nowhere countryside blaming his grandma's life threatening diarrhea on Bush, or Global Warming, or whatever.

Politicians in the US are corrupt, and how is this different from pretty much anywhere else in the world? The Democrats are as crooked as the Republicans, so while Bush is definitely on his way out, with all but a nice size 12 boot print on his dumb ass, there's little chance that his replacement will be any better... It will be someone with different qualities and shortcomings, but overall as deserving of praise as pretty much any politician in D.C.

Guns were a daily practice up until recently, in the US, as High Schools regularly kept a rifling practice. "the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."
Every other amendment in the US Constitution hinges upon the second. Take it away, and that big US government you so fear will be multiple times as unrestricted in its erosion of civil rights and liberties.. The US will become a nanny state just like most, if not all other, countries, because people will have given up ruling by their own will, selling their free will to some machine that "knows what's best for you".
Breizh
S2 licensed
A part of it is, Leifde.
Breizh
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Another armchair general .. Two days late, tho.
Breizh
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RacerY, the region has been a crapfest for centuries. Bin Laden was the right target, not Saddam, or his oil fields - regardless of how much better off Iraq might be without him.
The media reports on Iraq are biased, so that effectively makes it all a big mess, that no one can take second hand news reports from without a pound of salt.

The US world police after the cold war? Well, ok, why don't you move to an alternate commie universe? LOL Enjoy that..
Dropping two nukes in anger? Someone got army general stars for their birthday..

The UK needs to play Iran's BS game and get the sailors out.. "sign of weakness" or not, and then sock any future Iranian territorial trespass with no warning.
The region is a crapfest and ought to be left on its own to sort its crap out.. and if it wigs out like europe did 70 years ago, we know who will be asked for their help..
Breizh
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You don't need to race online to understand how leagues work, what their shortcomings are, and how they could be improved.

I've done a tweak that puts the demo cars at the LRF level of performance, effectively making a 6-car class.
It would make for some fun racing, since those tweaked cars are less difficult to drive on the edge, but the only way to release the mod is for someone to integrate my mod tools into LFSTweak.. which no one has volunteered to do yet.
Breizh
S2 licensed
Physics, synthetic sounds: more immersive on their own than many big bucks eye candy "sims".
Gameplay, netcode, simplicity of use.. You never have to fumble for what you want.

The best Design is the one that nothing more can be substracted from, LFS is it for me.
The only thing that I suppose could outdo it at this point, is the West Bro's sim going gold unanounced.
Sports commentating, as it should be
Breizh
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I cried the first time I watched it:
http://deadspin.com/sports/skiing/oh-messieur-245463.php
I apologize if this is old...
Breizh
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but bikes do not outbreak cars.
Breizh
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When you feel ready, the first two weeks (starting the first time you go online) are free, including all subscriber features; except automatic skin downloading (15 user made skins per plane model). If you want to see the skins without triggering the two week trial, they are up for individual download on the official website, under "downloads".
Look me up if you ever do get online.. you can never have too many wingmen

I'd post a film of one of the best pilots the game ever got, with situational awareness, aerobatics, and gunnery all into one, but the file isn't hosted anymore, and it weighs about 250MB.. I'll try and find another good example of great furballing..

And there is also the free 8 player rooms, although I think those will also trigger your 2 week trial, that usually host player made maps.. the quality is pretty varied, but some of them really are very good. The most common games are free for all dogfighting.
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