GP500 managed it, so LFS could too.
It would be close enough to make it fun.. more fun than any other game, including big sellers like Tourist Trophy, which would definitely benefit LFS, and probably make enough of a market to tempt at least one big/small/new manufacturer to offer something better than what we have and get the ball rolling again.
It would be close enough to make it fun.. more fun than any other game, including big sellers like Tourist Trophy, which would definitely benefit LFS, and probably make enough of a market to tempt at least one big/small/new manufacturer to offer something better than what we have and get the ball rolling again.
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For bragging rights if nothing else.. It's fun.
Although if LFSLapper can do this already, you could probably script it to echo trap/top speeds at the end of sessions. It's another borderline useful/feasible feature that Scavier will end up deciding, next to flags on the final results board.. however cheap to add it may seem.
For bragging rights if nothing else.. It's fun.
Although if LFSLapper can do this already, you could probably script it to echo trap/top speeds at the end of sessions. It's another borderline useful/feasible feature that Scavier will end up deciding, next to flags on the final results board.. however cheap to add it may seem.
Fighting and whining not only fails to advance a solution, it worsens the problem in a number of ways, one of them turning off Scawen's enthusiasm.
I would say this is no different than other problems of its kind, in that you cannot safely decide a formula from such a reduced (just one person, in some people's minds) sample/population.
People who concerned enough with the race could improvise a quick field testing with the available resources to inform them with the info to make the best decision before the 26th. Devising this data gathering would be more productive than arguing who forum-whines best.
There could be (in its final form) a few separate handicap formulas adapted to short, medium, or long (and/or any other sort of race affected I'm not thinking of) races, that (for example) a server admin could choose from, or that the server could retrieve from the master server after the latter has recognized from said server's car/track/length settings which formula applies.
I would say this is no different than other problems of its kind, in that you cannot safely decide a formula from such a reduced (just one person, in some people's minds) sample/population.
People who concerned enough with the race could improvise a quick field testing with the available resources to inform them with the info to make the best decision before the 26th. Devising this data gathering would be more productive than arguing who forum-whines best.
There could be (in its final form) a few separate handicap formulas adapted to short, medium, or long (and/or any other sort of race affected I'm not thinking of) races, that (for example) a server admin could choose from, or that the server could retrieve from the master server after the latter has recognized from said server's car/track/length settings which formula applies.
Just play some other game while LFS gets to the point your pet peeves are fixed... When have Scavier shown they were coasting on LFS' success? What would you do better in their shoes? All the complaining in the world is no help. It is just stating the obvious (Scavier only have so much brain power/time/resources), and/or (depending on how it's said) plain disingenuous.
All I would add is one more developer to the crew, and the hard part as I see it would be for that dev to fit in without counterproductively rocking the boat.
LFS will be done when it's done, no sooner or later. That's what "alpha" means.
All I would add is one more developer to the crew, and the hard part as I see it would be for that dev to fit in without counterproductively rocking the boat.
LFS will be done when it's done, no sooner or later. That's what "alpha" means.
He wants to spread his cult.
What would the difference be, between static tire barricades then and red & white barricades now?
Wouldn't tires tethered to the ground, or a wall, and/or themselves make for even worse hazards, with the present collision model?
We'd have even worse lawsuits !
We'd have even worse lawsuits !
There are background checks and hours of wait, among other things, for someone to get themselves a firearm, but don't let that, or the fact that a tiny percentage of legal owners commit crimes with them, get in the way of a good rimshot..
Except in places where guns are forbidden, such as planes, campuses, etc. Then it's just a turkey shoot for the criminals.
Don't mention the fact that US firearms don't seem to cause much more turmoil than in other countries if you ommit drug/gang/etc neighbourhoods, or the fact that the US is in fact getting more and more of its population (its legislation anyway) agreeing to undiscriminately (more like randomly) restrict gun ownership.. Loads of guns = safer than without them.
Ask any policeman: police forces prevent next to nothing, they almost only show up after the fact.
Yep Scawen, I know and agree with all that, except with that moderating is an annoying task.. I know what you mean by it, but I don't think it's right. Doing your best at something is all that's required for a clear conscience.. Why would you burden your conscience with something someone else did? Any time you spend time thinking about something else than what you want, is an amount of time not spent thinking of what you do want, and getting closer to it.
The only annoyance I would know would be not having clear rules to follow. Not being in your head to know your opinion on any given post doesn't leave many posts to moderate, but in that last thread, a fair number of them were obviously off topic.
Just moving all the posts devoid of bug reports or particularly pertinent suggestions to a separate thread wouldn't be either annoying or complicated; except for you, obviously, if it was done wrong.
It certainly would have helped at least a little, in this case.
Good luck with all that work..
The only annoyance I would know would be not having clear rules to follow. Not being in your head to know your opinion on any given post doesn't leave many posts to moderate, but in that last thread, a fair number of them were obviously off topic.
Just moving all the posts devoid of bug reports or particularly pertinent suggestions to a separate thread wouldn't be either annoying or complicated; except for you, obviously, if it was done wrong.
It certainly would have helped at least a little, in this case.
Good luck with all that work..
Why doesn't someone with mod powers filter those threads to help out Scawen?
The whole gun control debate is so far gone that if you want to debate that, there's plenty of place to see more informed arguments for either side..
One thing I found funny, was news abroad on the event: First, they do a whole "The US is victim of a wave of violence stemmed in free circulation of guns, a problem they are having trouble coping with {huge number of casualties unajusted for the sheer size of the USA's population} [...] Bill Clinton's "Assault weapon ban" [...] "
The thing about that ban (and many other similar laws) is that it wasn't even a comprehensive regulation. The people who wrote it obviously don't even understand guns. This is obvious as soon as you actually learn a few things about guns (say proportionaly as much as you would to properly use a cell phone), and actually read the "assault weapons" ban laws, and other laws like it.
Second, and the irony was pretty funny, right after that news was a report of some prisoners escaping by hijacking a helicopter, using guess what? Guns and a grenade.
I guess outlawing things will always prevent criminals from getting those forbidden items, since criminals aren't ever going to break the law.
News are so biased anywhere you go, it's almost unbelievable sometimes.
Getting rid of guns in the US would make sense if they weren't already there, weren't part of the culture and way of life, and most importantly if they weren't a right by law for a very good reason.
What I find most surprising is that no one took that guy down.. either with a gun or by staying out of his sight or behind cover till an opportunity showed up. Less surprising is the total absence of news report of the number of people saved by guns every year..
One thing I found funny, was news abroad on the event: First, they do a whole "The US is victim of a wave of violence stemmed in free circulation of guns, a problem they are having trouble coping with {huge number of casualties unajusted for the sheer size of the USA's population} [...] Bill Clinton's "Assault weapon ban" [...] "
The thing about that ban (and many other similar laws) is that it wasn't even a comprehensive regulation. The people who wrote it obviously don't even understand guns. This is obvious as soon as you actually learn a few things about guns (say proportionaly as much as you would to properly use a cell phone), and actually read the "assault weapons" ban laws, and other laws like it.
Second, and the irony was pretty funny, right after that news was a report of some prisoners escaping by hijacking a helicopter, using guess what? Guns and a grenade.
I guess outlawing things will always prevent criminals from getting those forbidden items, since criminals aren't ever going to break the law.
News are so biased anywhere you go, it's almost unbelievable sometimes.
Getting rid of guns in the US would make sense if they weren't already there, weren't part of the culture and way of life, and most importantly if they weren't a right by law for a very good reason.
What I find most surprising is that no one took that guy down.. either with a gun or by staying out of his sight or behind cover till an opportunity showed up. Less surprising is the total absence of news report of the number of people saved by guns every year..
There just doesn't seem to be any developer willing to make a realistic shooter.
How complicated would the physics be? Modeling (overall, including gameplay, not in the strictly physics stuff) the human body's reactions to impacts and wounds etc might be the most complicated parts.
Ballistics, penetration, all that stuff is pretty simple. Havok has provided affordable, quality general physics for some time now, for all the non small-scale physics..
What else would demand substential coding? It certainly would make a lot of shooters more fun.
How complicated would the physics be? Modeling (overall, including gameplay, not in the strictly physics stuff) the human body's reactions to impacts and wounds etc might be the most complicated parts.
Ballistics, penetration, all that stuff is pretty simple. Havok has provided affordable, quality general physics for some time now, for all the non small-scale physics..
What else would demand substential coding? It certainly would make a lot of shooters more fun.
If handicaps are able to be scripted, then we can adapt them to each track in the server's rotation.
About erroneous false-start penalties: I've always seen MPR replays where cars would jitter around a bit while on the grid, before the green light came out.
So it seems to be an extrapolation error somewhere, because I've always seen the same thing online in real time - cars jumping around a bit, apparently just revving their engines or moving their steering wheel about, and sometimes not doing anything (as far as I could tell).
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Fun yes, but "pure simulation"?
PK machine gun VS bus driver behind his windshield is ineffective, bullet holes in bodies are always the same, rubber boats don't sink when you strafe them, helicopter blades are tree-proof, .50 cal doesn't get past car doors.. arcade vehicle physics?
And no ragdoll.
PK machine gun VS bus driver behind his windshield is ineffective, bullet holes in bodies are always the same, rubber boats don't sink when you strafe them, helicopter blades are tree-proof, .50 cal doesn't get past car doors.. arcade vehicle physics?
And no ragdoll.
Neither TBO nor LRF cars are WTCC spec.. The U and XFR are.
Metal clank in the back of what? The gear shift sound?
There's way too much clutter in this thread.
There's way too much clutter in this thread.
I don't mean to add clutter to the thread, but -
Narcis, can't you look at the handicaps used in an .spr with F11?
Narcis, can't you look at the handicaps used in an .spr with F11?
KKK supercharged.
It looks ok in a novel way, like the Dodge Viper did when it came out. That hood on the back, though, has a reflectivity that looks a little cheap. The difference with the rest of the bodywork makes it look improvised.
It looks ok in a novel way, like the Dodge Viper did when it came out. That hood on the back, though, has a reflectivity that looks a little cheap. The difference with the rest of the bodywork makes it look improvised.
LOL Just build yourself a bunker That way you don't even have to pretend to have any sovereignty in your own country!
Whatever you do, there will always be frivolous lawsuits, and other assorted BS, like you admit yourself. So why even account for them in what you (supposedly would) do?
They will happen anyway. The only stark reality would be judges not knowing better and giving credence to those cases.
That way you don't even have to pretend to have any sovereignty in your own country!Whatever you do, there will always be frivolous lawsuits, and other assorted BS, like you admit yourself. So why even account for them in what you (supposedly would) do?
They will happen anyway. The only stark reality would be judges not knowing better and giving credence to those cases.
You draw the line that best benefits the economy.
Loop holes bigger than the ones that've let those 12M+ through already?
You "feel", but don't have any hard facts to base it on? That's just blind speculation, then.
The simple math of it is that all the negative side effects of the illegal population would disappear (DUI hit and runs, ER clogging, ID theft, voting fraud, trash in the streets, etc), and all the positive side effects of a respectable portion of that population residing and being employed legaly would remain, and in fact, be improved, if only because they'd actually follow the laws and unburden the system, rather than dodge them and add to the overhead.
Lawsuits because your country hasn't got the same quota as others? Are you serious? Why not lawsuits because green card lottery quotas of a certain year aren't advantageous to one country or another?
Frivolous lawsuits aren't an immigration or guest workforce problem, they're a stuck on stupid problem by lawsuit-happy unhappy people.
Loop holes bigger than the ones that've let those 12M+ through already?
You "feel", but don't have any hard facts to base it on? That's just blind speculation, then.
The simple math of it is that all the negative side effects of the illegal population would disappear (DUI hit and runs, ER clogging, ID theft, voting fraud, trash in the streets, etc), and all the positive side effects of a respectable portion of that population residing and being employed legaly would remain, and in fact, be improved, if only because they'd actually follow the laws and unburden the system, rather than dodge them and add to the overhead.
Lawsuits because your country hasn't got the same quota as others? Are you serious? Why not lawsuits because green card lottery quotas of a certain year aren't advantageous to one country or another?
Frivolous lawsuits aren't an immigration or guest workforce problem, they're a stuck on stupid problem by lawsuit-happy unhappy people.
some sort of mass roundup would be the equivalent to economic suicide. A "temporary worker" permit would be a red-tape nightmare.
No, and certainly no worse than a massively unregulated swarm of parasites, like now.
Enforcing current laws to a "T" would also be shooting ourselves in the foot.
No, it'd mean everything would be as it should be.
Laws are not meant to be followed.. that's a good one.
We're kinda screwed on this." .. As long as politicians are so crooked.
By the way, What does Charlie Gordon get?
Burnt rubber?
No, and certainly no worse than a massively unregulated swarm of parasites, like now.
Enforcing current laws to a "T" would also be shooting ourselves in the foot.
No, it'd mean everything would be as it should be.
Laws are not meant to be followed.. that's a good one.
We're kinda screwed on this." .. As long as politicians are so crooked.
By the way, What does Charlie Gordon get?
Burnt rubber?
Do extra chores for your parents, get the best grades you can, etc.
It was wrong then, and it's wrong now. I don't see the ambiguity.
Already being done on a number of servers, by scripting.. STCC and Otolikos' Open GTR cup are two examples.
From the scripts I've seen, this should be possible, not via LFSW, but as an output to file.
I don't mean to derail the original topic, but how can you have mixed feelings about illegal aliens?
They are living and exploited like slave labor. It will be better for everyone (except greedy crooks and politicians) when the laws are respected, and immigration + employment done according to the rules.
They are living and exploited like slave labor. It will be better for everyone (except greedy crooks and politicians) when the laws are respected, and immigration + employment done according to the rules.
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