Some of you just can't help but lot together any and all "americans", "America", and its government together. Enjoy the smugness, it must be bliss.
With a few digits to tell each gear's top speed, displayed next to each ratio or something, yeah.
The last two years? For one thing, republicans haven't been right since Goldwater.
And Hillary as president? She's a nutcase, like most other in DC. That much socialism would make secession an improvement.
And Hillary as president? She's a nutcase, like most other in DC. That much socialism would make secession an improvement.
Preachin to the choir Hank.. mostly 
Paul isn't in the wrong party. Just about everyone else in the party is.
Just tried VR again after all these years, and the physics are pure crap.. I don't know how I or anyone managed to beat this thing with the most difficult settings on a keyboard.
The tracks are great though, they would make really great inspirations to base new LFS road race tracks from.
The tracks are great though, they would make really great inspirations to base new LFS road race tracks from.
Education trumps all of those.
It's high time the species got a clue and got off this tiny rock, before a few spoil it for the rest.
It's high time the species got a clue and got off this tiny rock, before a few spoil it for the rest.
The ignition sound is a sample that you can replace already.
If by flipping you mean the elastic barrier launches, that's possibly being worked on for the next patches. If you mean the very high speed recoils from permanent concrete walls, it isn't the physics but the simplified damage mapping. The cars' frames, bodywork, and the rest of their anatomy aren't modeled yet. If they were, crashes would absorb a lot more energy.. depending on the car.
If by flipping you mean the elastic barrier launches, that's possibly being worked on for the next patches. If you mean the very high speed recoils from permanent concrete walls, it isn't the physics but the simplified damage mapping. The cars' frames, bodywork, and the rest of their anatomy aren't modeled yet. If they were, crashes would absorb a lot more energy.. depending on the car.
Definitely not boring
The AI, physics and landscapes were awsome for the time.. I spent a few months playing the final season over and over until one day I finaly beat Nusbaum (or whatever his name was)... It was such a great game.
Imagine those tracks in LFS? Especialy the red desert track. Eric would make it so beautiful. Imagine having a tight race like LFS makes on that track.. Man, that'd be incredible
And we need the MR exo car from VR
Same handling and engine character. If that game didn't get your race fluids pumping, you needed medical attention 
Imagine those tracks in LFS? Especialy the red desert track. Eric would make it so beautiful. Imagine having a tight race like LFS makes on that track.. Man, that'd be incredible
And we need the MR exo car from VR
Same handling and engine character. If that game didn't get your race fluids pumping, you needed medical attention Who said they were experts? The expertise common people don't have is in special cases such as the exact interdependencies of crime and punishment. What everyone does have is common sense, and that's what we're doing: debating the pros and cons of capital punishment in principle.
Everyone is free to say exactly what they want, and that's exactly how it should be. Ideas are the precursor to action, and here we are in a free for all. What better place to find out which idea is best? It's a perfect sandbox. I haven't seen anyone proclaim themselves King of the sandbox yet.. Idea is the quintessence of debate, and here it is reduced to text which is at least as good as someone getting all red in the face or being distracted by anything from the arguments themselves.
Anyone, regardless of age, social standing, race or whatever, can type in the solution to any given debate and be recognized for it as he/she deserves. That's a whole lot better than you can usualy count on in most debates in the flesh. Most people don't make good debating company, in the flesh at least. Stick a blade of sharp logic in em over there and they'll cry foul play.
Did you forget to mention the common obsession with banning abortion in the US? Don't you think you ought to account for Americans' (a sizeable portion of them anyway) holding embryonic life sacred in such a way? Don't you think it incongruous to focus only on the death penalty (which you've yet to precisely demonstrate why you think it's not defendable) and not reconciliate such a humane disposition with your accusation of inhumane punishment? Or holding the right to survive so sacred as to allow everyone to have an equalizing but lethal means of self-defense even at the risk of criminals having guns more readily? These sorts of things are what you need to account for if you really mean to make a comprehensive assessment of the American context of things.
You're more on about how well you (I said already I'm only interested in a dispassionate discussion) can or can't cope with 'hideous' this or that which you suppose is going on in a brain trillions of electrons away than about the pros and cons of capital punishment. I'm done replying to anything but arguments towards that debate.
That's very close to what most people in the US are getting to grips with Blackout
He doesn't live for free, he leeches his life support from the same people he preyed on.
Albieg, if I were so inclined, I'd feel offended by your holier than thou statistical pigeon-holing and stereotyping, which is exactly what I'm illustrating with that sarcasm. I personaly don't see the rethorical value of "being offended" etc. I don't feel I'm superior or that you're inferior or any of that crap, so you yourself could probably take your own advice.
Blackout, the political landscape has gotten as deep into the two party groove as it has only because the people's vote has allowed it to. There are plenty of alternatives that just aren't getting votes, mostly for the wrong reasons.. they don't have the connections, the money, or the sort of charisma that resonates well with the media. People just aren't doing their homework (with regards to the candidates and political process in general), but that doesn't mean American values are condemnable.. those values need to be taken in their proper context, not in that of a rotting apple cart.
There have been a number of candidates outside of the two parties, but they have been ignored, not least because too few people want to risk their vote on a 2 percenter.
With some luck, though, the recent trend towards a large enough amount of people being just fed up with the BS that passes for government in Washington will yield enough good people being elected before those same people settle down into complacency again.
My 2c.
Albieg, if I were so inclined, I'd feel offended by your holier than thou statistical pigeon-holing and stereotyping, which is exactly what I'm illustrating with that sarcasm. I personaly don't see the rethorical value of "being offended" etc. I don't feel I'm superior or that you're inferior or any of that crap, so you yourself could probably take your own advice.
Blackout, the political landscape has gotten as deep into the two party groove as it has only because the people's vote has allowed it to. There are plenty of alternatives that just aren't getting votes, mostly for the wrong reasons.. they don't have the connections, the money, or the sort of charisma that resonates well with the media. People just aren't doing their homework (with regards to the candidates and political process in general), but that doesn't mean American values are condemnable.. those values need to be taken in their proper context, not in that of a rotting apple cart.
There have been a number of candidates outside of the two parties, but they have been ignored, not least because too few people want to risk their vote on a 2 percenter.
With some luck, though, the recent trend towards a large enough amount of people being just fed up with the BS that passes for government in Washington will yield enough good people being elected before those same people settle down into complacency again.
My 2c.
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Axus I agree, but that's not limited to the US. There's plenty of absurd legislature in every other country. And there's plenty of unreported (read: not sexy enough for headlines) cases where ridiculous accusations are treated as they ought to be, in the US.
Blackout, I don't understand what you mean by the last part of your second sentence.
My reply to Axus was meant to say that the government is not who the public ought to look for for advice on who to vote for. More often than not, politicians are more interested in staying in office than actually serving their functions to a tee.
I agree (if you meant that) that a two party setup as polarized as the US' has become is bad news. By and large most politicians have drifted too far away from the Constitution.
Blackout, I don't understand what you mean by the last part of your second sentence.
My reply to Axus was meant to say that the government is not who the public ought to look for for advice on who to vote for. More often than not, politicians are more interested in staying in office than actually serving their functions to a tee.
I agree (if you meant that) that a two party setup as polarized as the US' has become is bad news. By and large most politicians have drifted too far away from the Constitution.
I think Niko sees it pretty accurately, on the pertinent aspect anyway: he's being slandered unduely and it's affecting his right to racing normaly like everyone else. I agree that his personality and username and maybe his racing (I haven't seen it) all sum up to do him disfavor, but I disagree he deserves it.
I don't remember the names, but it was just small talk for effect, rather than seriously accusing you of anything.. Something hollow like "OMG LFSNoob can't show up or I'll pee my pants".
If they don't have the balls to tell even such a petty thing to your face, don't bother with it.
I don't remember the names, but it was just small talk for effect, rather than seriously accusing you of anything.. Something hollow like "OMG LFSNoob can't show up or I'll pee my pants".
If they don't have the balls to tell even such a petty thing to your face, don't bother with it.
No kidding...
Another thing that's been going on is illegals being brought in to vote... as far back as in the 60s.
Another thing that's been going on is illegals being brought in to vote... as far back as in the 60s.
The government gets in by votes from the public. Who do you think the elected will tell the public to vote for?
Like others said, it looks like multiple exposure HDR work. Ferrari makes a lot of studio pics for PR that look unnatural to some people.
The username doesn't mean anything.. there's a lot of other ridiculous names on par with Napolean or BloodVampire or whatever.
I've seen players talk about Niko (in his absence) like he's a hazard, though. It sounds more like banter for its own sake.
I've seen players talk about Niko (in his absence) like he's a hazard, though. It sounds more like banter for its own sake.
Hey, check it out! Right on time. Who the heck is we, anyway? Wait, don't bother looking down your pedestal, you might spoil your immaculate vision.
The way it's practiced is a separate story, it's not about the fundamental ethics anymore. Just like cops will not always conform to their duties. For example, there's been a recent proposal in Michigan to demote 200 felonies to mere misdemeanors.. that means felons convicted of any among 200 felonies will likely be let back as easily as misdemeanor-class criminals into society...
I guess the difference between us is that you think it's ok to let someone whose first reason to live is crime against others, even ok to force (via taxes) law-abiding people to pay for that unrehabilitable criminal's upkeep. We had this debate before (abridged, though) and the critical difference is that your 'side' of the issue thinks it better to pay for the inhumane emprisonment of said criminal, indefinitely if need be, than to save the resources for worthier things like education, etc.
I think last time someone said that the prisoners don't really add up to that much money anyway... that's balloney. Even supposing it didn't add up to much, any amount spent keeping a (deservingly-) death row inmate alive in a tiny cell is better spent educating kids; this leading everywhere but to criminality all on its own.. why would you, instead, leech law-abiding people of their resources to keep criminals who will never re-integrate society anyway? Why do that rather than loose the useless ballast and let the normal people keep their resources?
Sometimes it's argued that since emprisonment (not killing the criminal but only sequestering it to a cage) is less inhumane than execution (killing the criminal but avoiding any burden on the rest of the population (a matter of principle, not financial proportion) and absolutely avoiding any repeat offenses and victims), execution is the only one of the two that deserves to be called inhumane.. that's bogus. They're both inhumane.
The death penalty and life-sentences will be done away with when criminals can be properly rehab'ed, and that means something comprehensive. Not some brute force method like (for example, again) in A clockwork orange.
On that day we can start talking about 'humane' alternatives. Emprisonment isn't humane.
Wow.. just wow.. am I getting this right? The government needs to tell the people what it ought to think?
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Someone said the death penalty's not worth it because it doesn't work as a deterant. Nothing's a deterant for the creme of the criminal crop.
Capital punishment is in good company, on the scale of humaneness of punishment: emprisonment is just a less economical, more temporary solution to those criminals that will never live within lawfulness.
In the mean time lawful people will bear the economic burden of the inmates' upkeep... We've already had threads about this, and the righteous indignation of "more advanced countries" never fails to rear its head. As most people know, no country is irreproachable.. it's just a matter of choosing the right topics for any given country to earn an outright "more advanced" pedigree.
Not all of the USA is for the death penalty (so much for blanket statements!), and make no mistake, it is in the same intent for a healthier society as 'more advanced' nations tax lawful citizens to bear the cost of keeping criminals well-fed that the pro-capital punishment portion of Americans support the death penalty.
Now, the practical execution of the idea is another story..
Capital punishment is in good company, on the scale of humaneness of punishment: emprisonment is just a less economical, more temporary solution to those criminals that will never live within lawfulness.
In the mean time lawful people will bear the economic burden of the inmates' upkeep... We've already had threads about this, and the righteous indignation of "more advanced countries" never fails to rear its head. As most people know, no country is irreproachable.. it's just a matter of choosing the right topics for any given country to earn an outright "more advanced" pedigree.
Not all of the USA is for the death penalty (so much for blanket statements!), and make no mistake, it is in the same intent for a healthier society as 'more advanced' nations tax lawful citizens to bear the cost of keeping criminals well-fed that the pro-capital punishment portion of Americans support the death penalty.
Now, the practical execution of the idea is another story..
Skins in LFS are already at least as outlandish as some rims could be. How often do you see skins as we have for the road cars in reality?
There's no doubt that rims can be made to either break the laws of physics and/or just look retarded. Nonetheless there could be some restraints put in place to allow for either sharing of user-made wheels (as skin textures are now) or simply allowing it to be part of the rest of the realtime player information (RGB skin base color, driver position, etc). The former would be more adapted to human filtering, whereas the latter could be automatic provided Scawen (for example) arbitrarily coded some restrictions as there could be for the forced-cockpit camera settings (albeit a lot more complex).
And if you don't care for the custom rims, you could just turn them off and never have to suffer their sight... Everybody's happy (except Scawen if it really is that complicated to code).
There's no doubt that rims can be made to either break the laws of physics and/or just look retarded. Nonetheless there could be some restraints put in place to allow for either sharing of user-made wheels (as skin textures are now) or simply allowing it to be part of the rest of the realtime player information (RGB skin base color, driver position, etc). The former would be more adapted to human filtering, whereas the latter could be automatic provided Scawen (for example) arbitrarily coded some restrictions as there could be for the forced-cockpit camera settings (albeit a lot more complex).
And if you don't care for the custom rims, you could just turn them off and never have to suffer their sight... Everybody's happy (except Scawen if it really is that complicated to code).
The latter is what I meant to warn Madman about. I had been suspecting a benign gum infection of some kind as the cause of my rear gums swelling and was biting down on them hard for days at a time (!) to stop the bulge getting in the way of properly chewing...
From what Madman says, he intends to wait past the right time for fear of a few days of pain (they'll happen whatever he chooses to do), hence my suggestion.
From what Madman says, he intends to wait past the right time for fear of a few days of pain (they'll happen whatever he chooses to do), hence my suggestion.
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