Proposed new F1 Rule:

"All F1 tracks shall now have water sprinklers installed to keep the track damp in the event that there is no rain and this shall make for much more exciting racing."

Quote from NotAnIllusion :

FIA have now amended the rule that applies to this situation. It now states that not only must any position gained as a result of cutting be returned, the cuttee shall not attempt to repass until after the following corner ...

Well, let's just hope everyone's agreed on what's a corner and what's a bend then!

Quote from Becky Rose :

I actually think it should be part of the driving test. People dont slow down when there is "only a little" rain, when really most of the grip is gone. People dont find that out because they dont normally drive near the limits of grip ... until they have to brake or swerve to avoid something that is.

Yep.

That's something you learn pretty early on as a motorcyclist.

Better to have a heavy downpoar to wash the 'grease' away rather than a light drizzle, especially if it hasn't rained for a while.

Quote from chunkyracer :

I don´t agree... One thing I don´t understand is that people say that Kimi had the right to the line to that right turn since he was on the inside, altough Hamilton, as that pic shows, was ahead under braking. So, following the same logic and since the other turn on that chicane is to the left shouldn´t be Hamilton to have the right to that corner since his car car was much more side by side with Kimi than at the previous corner...
I would understand that point if this was a chicane like the ones we have in LFS, that you can just cut it and make it just one turn, but that is not the case here.

Don´t think this video has been posted before (only onboard from Hamilton and Kimi): http://www.dailymotion.com/vid ... magcom-hamiltonkimi_sport

Thanks for that chunky.

Looking at that, I honestly (and I mean honestly) can't see what Hamilton is supposed to have done wrong.

He lets Kimi through and then simply outbreaks him at the next turn.

What possible advantage could he have got from slipstreaming Kimi anyway? The cars were all over the place in the wet, so they were both trying to go slower and steadier. Hamilton had more than enough power on tap without slipstreaming to do what he did.

Last edited by dungbeetle, Mon 8 Sep 2008, 20:19.

Quote from Storm_Cloud :

That's a stupid position to take. It's like saying you'll award a penalty and send a player off for denying a goalscoring opportunity in football but if the penalty is scored you'll let the sent off player back on.

Get a grip. It does not matter that Kimi didn't finish. it does not matter that Kimi squeezed him off the road. The sporting regs and international code do not caveat the rules by saying, "Oh well, if he's tries to overtake on the outside, on slicks, in the wet and the guy taking the inside line drifts wide forcing him over the tarmac runoff then it's open season - ignore the rules."

Hamilton initiated the whole situation by attempting the pass - everything flows from there. Maybe Kimi should get a 5 place grid penalty for forcing Hamilton wide, but then again given the grip / tyre situation he was not going to be able to take a tight line in an stay there. Hamilton should have expected that.

Well, if, and I quote, "the sporting regs and international code do not caveat the rules", then perhaps you'd care to explain why, in your rude and condescending opinion, Massa didn't get a DT for his pit lane infraction in Valencia.

Quote from mythdat :

Suzuka 2005. Alonso overtakes Klien by cutting the chicane, gives Klien the place back but immediately tucks in behind and overtakes again at the next corner. Three laps later the stewards decide this is not sufficient and order Alonso to give the position back again, which he does so, and then has to overtake him again.

Just throwing it out there, this is not the first time this has happened, cut the conspiracy bullshit.

Really?

And did Klien then stuff it into the wall before the finish so it wouldn't have made a blind bit of difference anyway?

Quote from RossUK :

God this is terrible. Those last few laps were some of the most exciting I've seen in a long while, its not often you get an adrenalin rush watching F1 to say the least. In fact the incident in question is what I watch racing for. Who cares if things get a bit tight and one car has to go off track? As long as the offending car lets the other back through all is fair, that's the spirit of racing right?

I agree. It's such a shame.

After all the complaints that F1 is just a 'procession', we finally get some nip-and-tuck, thrills-and-spills racing with a real fight to the finish and look what happens.

They kill it stone dead.

Biased?

Don't know what you mean, sir!

Well, does anyone remember a little incident in Valencia where Massa pulled out of his pit slot and nearly collided with Sutil?

"Ooh", they said, "Yes, we'll have to look at that after the race", they said. "Unsafe release from a pit stop ... possible time penalty there ... could cost Massa his win", they said.

And what happened?

A €10,000 fine (pfft!), a "Naughty boy, don't do that again" and Massa keeps his win. :haha:

Well, what a surprise!

Hey, even the Beeb have transmission problems from time to time and what matters is how you deal with it.

Seriously. Good recovery chaps!

Technically, if the safety car leads the race for the most laps, does he win?

Oh, ups-a-daisy, there ...

... safety car seems to be getting a lot of air time. I think he's gonna put a "Hello Mum" sticker on his windscreen soon!

Hey, you guys are brave to do this live!

Quote from Bean0 :

Yes, hires skins will impact framerate on some machines.

Ah, thought they might.

Best if I stick to lo-res for now then.

Thanks Bean0.

Didn't want to start a new thread for this 'cos it's kinda related, so ...

Does using the hi-res skins affect frame rates/ 'puter performance at all?

I know if you've got a real whizz-bang machine you prolly won't even notice, but for those among us who need to carefully engineer as many fps out of our machines as possible ...?

Quote from emqu :

Why cant we have...
15min practice
15min qualify
x3 races with points
The winner with the most points gets naked dancing lades/men to oscillate in her/his direction for 10 min.
Server changes track (random) and it all starts again.

+1 for naked dancing ladies.

Don't really care about the rest ...

Quote from Glenn67 :

Or you have alot more spare time to devote to LFS than I

I wish.

If I had more spare time I could race every evening and there wouldn't be a problem ...

Quote from Glenn67 :

Which is why I said for a time period for something like one month then it changes to another selection of tracks or just shuffles the previous selection

A whole MONTH!

OK, maybe I am a little impatient ...

Quote from Glenn67 :

Different track each day but the same track for each day of the week for a set time, like one month. That way it will change enough for the regulars and be predicatable enough for the less regular LFSer

Although it's a good rotation plan, Glenn, the only problem might be that if someone can't make a certain night of the week due to other commitments, they'll never get to race that track.

Any of the South City circuits would be good.

Oh, and don't forget to give us the name of the server when it's ready!

- No faffing about with mods.

1. Fire it up
2. Pick a server
3. Race

Simple.

Back when I first started playing LFS and had no idea about setups, I was surprised and delighted to learn about the Inferno site. The setups I got back then made things so much easier for me. Never had the chance before to say thanks for that, so here it is - thanks guys!

Like some others here, I didn't know about SetupGrid until now and I have to say that in-game downloads is a fantastic idea.

So, thanks to Inferno for being there (and continuing to be there) since day one and congrats to SetupGrid for being so innovative.

I can see me using both from now on, so I'm voting equal.

Well, what can I say?

A huge thank you for this patch, guys.

I'm seeing an improvement in starting grid framerates, I love the replay controls and it's great to be able to fine tune the AA, AF and mip bias settings in-game.

Top bombin', chaps!

Quote from gezmoor :

Sorry but I'm going to have disagree with you here. The main problem as I see it, is that in RACE 1 at least people just go for broke a lot of the time and make no adjustment for the fact that there are maybe 2 - 3 rows of cars in front of them entering the turn. People rigidly stick to their lines/entry speed/brake points no matter what. I've lost count of the amount of times I've had space to either side going in to a turn (usually T1) only to have someone behind me just take me out because they are quicker through the turn, (or think they are anyway). It really is remeniscent of the Demo servers to be honest, as is the attitude of a lot of the drivers on RACE 1. I've all but given up trying to gain my Bronze, (which I need to drive the UF-BR which I really want to drive), and stick pretty much entirely to the single seaters because of it.

Gezmoor

Please forgive the link but it saves on typing.

http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=767265#post767265

Since then I made Bronze.

Keep going - it can be done and it's worth the struggle!

EDIT: Just had a quick look at your stats - you're already half way there, don't stop now!

Last edited by dungbeetle, Fri 9 May 2008, 13:35.

Quote from DarinSRT :

Or.. Better yet.. We'll even take a sim racing guy to fill the position.

:yikes: Nooooooooo!