The Taliban is great. We should use their method of getting rid of heroin users and producers world wide. The only problem is where to bury all the bodies. hmmm...
Any big conspiracies happening down there in New Zealand? I hear the sheeps are CIA plants to keep tabs on you.
I hear they did away with the "every player is equal" part of multiplayer, which is to say it wasn't like COD where one godly player can nuke the whole map. The review I read talked about earning jet packs and armor boosts...thats when I knew I wasn't going to buy it.
so the pastor didn't burn any korans, but protesters in the middle east burn effigies of him and the american flag? Who is really guilty here? He threatened to do it, THEY ACTUALLY DID IT. I wish people would stop seeing Radical Islam as the poor freedom fighters who should be sympathized with. They are no more innocent or weak than any other military/political force.
prices have gone way down where I am in texas. I'm now paying ~.40p per liter. I really don't know how brits can afford to live with such high taxes on fuel. It doesn't make sense from an economical standpoint either.
I see this boiling down to "the west should be more tolerant of islam because Islam is so intolerant of everyone who isn't Muslim." It would be nice if that was a realistic way of ending the threat of radical islam but I disagree. They would abuse our tolerance and find more underhanded and political ways of crippling western society (atheist/christian/ jew doesn't matter to them, you are the infidel and the enemy). This mosque is an abuse of our tolerance.
We should only give them as much tolerance as we would expect as guests of their countries, which is to say next to none. I don't see it as stooping to their level. Even at our weakest western civilization is so much more powerful than the Middle East. If it weren't for oil, we could forget them entirely and let them play "stone the adulteress" in their little sandbox.
btw give racer x a break. Its not like he lives in a country that matters and things happen, so he has to entertain himself by making up fantastical stories.
so because we're big ol qur'an burning meanies radical muslims should murder thousands of american citizens and women and children all over the world in so called honor killings?
by your logic we should torture all radical muslims or terrorist sympathizers. How many jews and christians have they burned in the last 30 years for their beliefs? How many beheaded? jeez how many bibles were in the world trade center when they burned it? Something tells me if this thread was about torturing muslims you would be crying for their rights but its ok to torture a few of your own citizens for their beliefs, right?
why are you trying to prevent rational people from sharing and debating their views atom. Who gave you the right to censor people? We argue (sometimes a little heatedly) and debate in the off topic section all the time and it doesn't hurt anybody.
IMO this mosque business and the koran burning are just tiny fragments of a war that has been going on for a thousand of years and will not end until one of the sides is eliminated. Seeing as the west sympathizes with radical islamists even though those same radical islamists would see every infidel dead, and the west does nothing to protect the rights of their native citizens, its a not an easy call which side will eventually prevail. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4j1pvqs508
making the whole thing public and letting politicians feel the true public sentiment against the mosque will hopefully stop its construction. And I agree with mookie ^^^
But I have to agree it has been dragging on in the media. In my opinion the mainstream media's focus on racism and immigration are smokescreens to dilute the debates in the november elections away from the ONLY issue that should be discussed: the economy. (not a strong point for the left) annndd the right wing is falling right into the trap...again. but thats my off topic 2 cents.
I wonder why muslims are made to look like the victims in the media...maybe thats more of a relevant question.
Are you so naive as to think they proposed a mosque on ground zero in good faith and with the end goal of appealing to those who lost family on 9/11 by the hands of radical muslims?
i don't care what 30 rednecks do. as long as they're burning korans they're not suicide bombing mosques. I'm glad they have the right to do what they're doing. I don't think a christian in an american flag shirt burning a koran in the streets of palestine would last very long.
the crusades were then and this is now. I can't be the only one to think that we've come a long way, and in my opinion the west has come a lot further than the middle east in terms of acceptable modern behavior. I wish they would burn bibles instead of women.
Unless I'm missing some major event I really don't see parallel between modern day radical christians in the West and modern day radical Muslims. Radical and even non-radical Muslims are trying to convince the western world that they are oppressed and then they turn around and do stuff like this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4j1pvqs508
Someone mentioned the IRA. I Don't think their motives are religious and their end goal to kill everyone in the world who doesn't believe what they believe and live according to their morals.
I don't see any of these christians blowing themselves up and killing women and children systematically (see: honor killings)
Is anyone really trying to make the point that radical Christians are as dangerous as radical Muslims? Why are Muslims seen by atheists as the underdogs that need to be protected? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4j1pvqs508
anyone else notice a new wave of viruses affecting google analytics to redirect links to various (fake) websites?
I knew there was a serious problem with one company knowing what every person is doing online at every moment.
good to see we're back to responding to views and opinions with personal attacks. As I have said before I promise to never stoop that low.
If it makes you happier:
From a purely political standpoint I tend to agree with skeptics because they have less to gain if they are right and man cannot change the climate of the entire Earth and the world continues the infinite cycle of warming and cooling.
If the left can convince enough people otherwise, they can control through legislation the way society uses resources, spends its money, builds homes, educates children, not to mention changes in global economics, trade agreements...the end game being complete control over the masses by a select few who know how to save the world. of course thats a worst case scenario but why even go in that direction?
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