What kind of justice did her family receive? none. Why should he get to live the life he deprived of her?

very cool. on a side note I'm glad that Ford is finally bringing to America some of the kick ass small cars britain has had for the last 20 years.

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But yes, America is the Deepest East, and all the worlds' problems seem to come, ultimately, from there.

I don't really get that sentiment or why seems to be so strong in Europe. The US didn't even have a standing army until we were forced to break our policy of European non-intervention in WWI to end the threat of German genocide. The British empire royally (lol) screwed over the East FAR before America even came into the picture. Britain conquered the world by malicious and deceitful means and oppressed it's colonies (including Palestine, sparking the Arab-Israeli Conflict) before America was even a nation.

How far back do you want to go? I say its those goddamn Italians.

You say we deserve what we get, I will be saying the same to you when European appeasement of Extremist Islam comes to bite you in the ass.

mm sorry little typo. I mean when I go into hotlap mode in free play there doesn't seem to be a way to actually view your best lap times, or at least it isn't obvious to me.

on a different note, I've never downloaded any of the patches because I don't have Live, but i have a feeling a subscription will be under the tree this year. Did they fix the hotlapping so there was a way to actually see single player your lap times?

@ rattus How would you go about doing that? Kill all non-athiests? Think for a second how hypocritical not to mention bigoted you are being.

There are extremists of all religions, but in my opinion the most dangerous of these is jihadist Islam, and only because of the terrible things they would do to Western non-combatants if they were not foiled by various intelligence agencies. Also we have been very luckily this year starting with the Christmas day bombing attempt last year and the failed Times Square and Stockholm bombings.

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Just read your bible.

again there is a huge difference between people who read bibles and open up a soup kitchen or donate billions of dollars to the needy and people who read their bibles and want to kill everybody. Christian churches (in America at least) are more known for the former than the latter. I'll say again and again that I don't have a problem with Islam, only Jihadists who I see as a more political faction than a religious one.

Kev if your main concern in this world is the Christian Right (which is vastly less powerful than you seem to imagine) then you're just wrong. When a bomb goes off in your subway or bus it will not be an american christian who put it there, it will be an extremest muslim. Guaranteed.

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alright America is the most powerful nation in the world so obviously the most oppressive.I suppose you go all moist in the pants when you hear about global economic justice/global socialism/etc. which would put all countries on a level playing field (i.e. we all live in shit) but i digress.

Kev I really think someone very misguided has convinced you that the war in the middle east is a religious war and I don't even know how to respond to that as it is so blatantly untrue. Frankly Jihadists don't care if you're American, Bristish, Christian, Hindu or anything else; if you're not following sharia law you are an infidel and must die.

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however uncountable numbers were and are being hurt by reading it

ah of course conservative views did not exist before fox news. If Jihad isn't a political movement, then what is it? And how exactly is foreign policy harmed by treating Islamic extremism as such? I get the feeling you guys can just splutter some stuff about Fox or Palin or maybe throw Beck in somewhere and you pat each other on the back for uncovering such a poignant truth

"They are obsessed with the rights of others from Pakistan, Afghanistan and Iraq. Where are my human rights?"

this will be your downfall. They absolutely know they have more rights than natural born citizens and furthermore know exactly what to say to pull that "get out of jail free" card.

of course there are. doesn't mean you actually need to do it.

I don't see extremist Islam as a religious movement, they are a political force whose end goal is global sharia law, simple as that.

Sweden is hopefully starting to see that all these "refugees" they are letting in are actually somali/palestinian/pakistani extremists. Norway needs to listen up too.

well we could fight all day about what classified information leaked would pose a threat to American military and covert operatives. I tend to agree with the old adage "loose lips sink ships"

Maybe I'm being defensive but I don't understand why non-americans are so willing to release information that jeoprodizes US operations. Is it just a **** you to America? is it just to prove they can? is it that western socialist countries' citizens truly believe that the world is better off without american intervention in the middle east? Southern london is full of jihadists as are certain parts of Sweden (now more apparent than ever), Norway and France. To not be threatened at all by extremist Islam is very naive, but Europe wasn't threatened by german arms buildup either and went the route of appeasement instead of nipping it at the bud, which didn't work out well then and won't work now.

America will save the day again, and you'll hate us for it.

ecoterrorism (of which greenpeace has admitted to funding and committing) is the number one domestic terror threat in the US according to the FBI. The French government is not high on the list of terrorist organizations.

i like it a lot. very classy.

Greenpeace is more of a terrorist organization that the country france will ever be. Am I going to get a list of all of the things that have ever happened in new zealand? Is it going to convince me that new zealand is a player of any imaginable importance on the world stage?

I can see why no one heard about this I don't think it made global headlines.
http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WO ... den.terror.report/?hpt=T1

I read another article about Saudi, Pakistani, etc extremists pretending to be Palestinian because they know that Sweden and Norway will not turn them away. I'll post it if i can find it.

very impressive they might move you up a seat at the UN now.

agreed intrepid we're in the same boat over here, just waiting for 2012 when either the world ends or we get a president with the balls of steel necessary to dismantle the unfathomable beaurocracy that the US is being smothered by.

I like your profile pic as well. Instead of gold my family is grabbing property in California to hold onto, coastal California property is as good as gold...we hope.

Personally I'm not entirely sure the current government of the united states (or the UK for that matter) really needs to continue in its current form; I'm just afraid that socialism will be the replacement.

hell we've lasted a lot longer than most republic democracies but just like rome our downfall is that the people have found out that they can give themselves whatever they want regardless of actual value or sustainability, made MUCH worse by the fact that our currency is no longer based on an actual valuable commodity, unless you consider there to be value in the promises of a politician.

I have nothing to say about riots in the UK. I just find it funny that the right to assemble (riot) is the ONE right brits feel is worth fighting for, congrats its your last one and you would hate to lose it because everyone knows how much young socialists love breaking shit for a cause.

If bears are finding ways to continue the existance of their genus then hooray for them why do environmentalists always feel something is wrong? God forbid there environmentalists around when the prehistoric mammals were evolving and mixing and going extinct left and right, we'd be dodging sabre toothed cats on the way to the mall.

I don't think there are terrorists in new zealand. You worry too much about things that do not nor will ever involve you because you're in such a small and insignificant place in the world.

You're being sarcastic and this app is kind of OTT but asking questions about why someone is loitering around has saved lives (attempted times square bombing a while back)

that didnt really work the photos are way too dark. How can you play the game without seeing the screen? :spyoda:

another forza!? my crappy old first gen. xbox wont even play forza 3 anymore without freezing
The only thing turn ten needs to fix is to include fully adjustable controller settings. The only thing I don't like about fm3 is all the cars felt like lead blocks because turning was SO DAMN SLOW.

im guessing he means gt1 gt2 but panoz are so ugly he'd rather see the skin on a fxr

a lot of people don't know how to 'disable a few things'

I think some people just call it war. The only thing that has changed since the dawn of civilization is that now nations who are completely uninvolved in anything but sheep farming get all butthurt about the winners being generally more badass.

p.s. Israel won the six day war. Everyone else lost. Since when does a country win a war and then turn around and say, "you guys should stick around! Definitely no hard feelings!"