TM F1 FFB help???
ok need a bit of assistance here 
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few weeks ago my steering wheel went for a burton hence no LFS for way to long...
... withdrawals are setting in i can tell ya...
anyhow ive been looking for someplace that sells the TM F1 FFB
http://www.thrustmaster.com/pr ... uctID=46&PlatformID=5
i carnt find one anywhere!!!!!!, ebay amazon 3 days googlin and not a sausage!, does anyone know of anywhere that i can get one of these things please???? any help would be grate... ta chaps...
regards
Gizzmo
...few weeks ago my steering wheel went for a burton hence no LFS for way to long...
... withdrawals are setting in i can tell ya...anyhow ive been looking for someplace that sells the TM F1 FFB
http://www.thrustmaster.com/pr ... uctID=46&PlatformID=5
i carnt find one anywhere!!!!!!, ebay amazon 3 days googlin and not a sausage!, does anyone know of anywhere that i can get one of these things please???? any help would be grate... ta chaps...
regards
Gizzmo
his wife??????? you carnt blame her can ya 
wooooow wowowowowow, we dont like your type here sonny...
ok ban him get his address and confiscate said item and drop it at my place.....
hehehe...... so you are having fun then
always glad to have new drivers round here, enjoy
"replay analizer" and if you export to .RAF file "perfview"
carnt disagree there
there is no point in trying to compair senna's car to todays there a completly different animal now, i dont care what super sticky tires he was on or what ever just look at his driving!!, the man was insanely good, ive never seen anyne take on a track the way he did, simply majestic...
yep mclaren said it took them several seconds to look at the computer data find out what was wrong and instruct lewis what to do
my thoughts exactly, i used to like alonso but...... well... i think reneult would love to have him back, and saying that he better hope they do because i dont think anyone else will... yes a 2x WC, but kimi has always been the better driver anyway from day 1, now we have the likes of ... hamilton ,kubica and a few other new drivers showing grate promise i think alonso needs to be very carefull, 2x wc dont mean YOU can choose what where and when but alonso seems to think that...
1 thing i will give alonso he's soooooooooo lucky..., if that guy fell in a cannal he would come out with a bike round his neck!!!.. this season and at least the 2 before he has one very good lucky charm,.. he seems to ask for a miricle and one happens next race LOL
supper point there venus¬¬!!
very easy to concentrate on the guy in front of ya, and as you say you tent to copy what they do, hence they go wide so do you 
.... again grate adviceBOB i want your babies!!!!
awsome work old chap been waiting for this for a loong time, not been able to get on that mutch recently so nice prezzy...
again awsome work as always
awsome work old chap been waiting for this for a loong time, not been able to get on that mutch recently so nice prezzy
...again awsome work as always
got to be the best post of the month... just grate
tnx SD and i would agree with that too, thats one of the reasons why i say learn on a stable set.. makes finding the lines that mutch easyer.. top end sets are just to twitchy for this and your skill level at that point, as you said there are many lines into a turn, easch driver will take a "slightly" different one but you have to find em a set will not find those for you!!, the faster the set the harder it is to find the lines, im telling you now a good driver can get +1 /1.5 sec behind a WR with any setup..
pine-fin
pine!! now is the way to do it if your gona drive other drivers sets, you said you wont drive anyones but BOBS, so that style automaticly suits you!, thats grate, i supose you may tweak a bit of this and that sometimes but on the whole they work for you, your not CHASING other peoples styles of driving every day, you drive 1 setup, plus slowly your learning to setup ya self ... good man
also i must admit to stealing (well i do ask) other drivers gear ratios, IF there running the same DF as me, but i hate that cus ya bet ya life i have to fiddle with diff to get things right then hat spreads out into suspension so i need to brush up on the old gear ratios myself
to all new(ish) drivers regarding "setups"
im writing this because i see soooo many drivers {some not so new i might add} online asking the fastest driver on the server for his set, now there is nothing wrong with this but i think a few things need to be explained here....
because a guy is lapping a few tenths off the WR and leaving the rest of the pack 3 sec behind him every lap doesnt mean if he agree's to send you his set your going to be doing anything like this time, if anything you will go backwards (slower)..
why?? well number 1 one thing i love about LFS its 90% driver, hence that driver is lapping a few tenths off the WR becasue he is ... GOOD, hes put lap after lap after lap in on that track, he know's every bump he knows what each curb will do to the car and how to steady the car, cut a long story short he's experienced....
2nd thing and no where near as important as the one above is his setup , because hes experinced he can handle a car that if you turn in to soon it will break ya neck , apply a just a tad to much throtle it will throw you into the barrier, these sets are "ON THE EDGE" if donwforce is a factor its set to give maximum DF/grip at a given apex speed, this also applies to all the suspesion setup and tires(camber/pressures) your not going to be drivng at this level hence the car will handle like a bucking bronco.
so even if you practice with his set for a week your going to be no where near his times, and you defenitly wont be fighting to take the lead from him, setups DONT make you fast, the quicker you understand this the quicker you will get your tiimes to tumble....
so what DO we do?.....
the same as that insanly fast driver , laps laps and more laps, get yourself a STABLE set i.e 1 from the "easy to drive setup pack" from the this forum and learn just like he had to, this way you will learn the track mutch faster feel more CONFIDENT and soon you will begin to see that aptimum racing line, the one where you can carry the most speed with the car settled and where you can get the most power put down the quickest, but its all about experiance and laps!... the other good point is you wont be getting grilled by the faster guys online because your driving a stable set your not spinning and slidding off the black stuff at every other turn....
some drivers dont want to or carnt be bothered doing there own sets, personly i think its a shame seting up a car is 60% of the fun imo but we are all different.
setups are a personal thing imho what works for one driver wont work for another driver, yes you can LEARN to drive another drivers set but why waste ya time trying to be someone ya not? your instictive driving style may one day be the fastest in lfs, if you can be ya self on the track and set up your own car, 90% of the fastest drivers do there own sets some just tweak other other drivers sets but it all come down to your PERSONAL driving style , not some guy 2000 miles away, once you have the laps behind you on a stable set learn how to set up your own car, so if you have a tire temp problem YOU can deal with it....
the obove is how those drivers doing insane times got there not by downloading WR sets and hoping for the best, if this was true we would all be driving F1 cars for real, hope this helps you newer drivers out a tad ......
remember setups dont make you fast, its YOU! goodluck
because a guy is lapping a few tenths off the WR and leaving the rest of the pack 3 sec behind him every lap doesnt mean if he agree's to send you his set your going to be doing anything like this time, if anything you will go backwards (slower)..
why?? well number 1 one thing i love about LFS its 90% driver, hence that driver is lapping a few tenths off the WR becasue he is ... GOOD, hes put lap after lap after lap in on that track, he know's every bump he knows what each curb will do to the car and how to steady the car, cut a long story short he's experienced....
2nd thing and no where near as important as the one above is his setup , because hes experinced he can handle a car that if you turn in to soon it will break ya neck , apply a just a tad to much throtle it will throw you into the barrier, these sets are "ON THE EDGE" if donwforce is a factor its set to give maximum DF/grip at a given apex speed, this also applies to all the suspesion setup and tires(camber/pressures) your not going to be drivng at this level hence the car will handle like a bucking bronco.
so even if you practice with his set for a week your going to be no where near his times, and you defenitly wont be fighting to take the lead from him, setups DONT make you fast, the quicker you understand this the quicker you will get your tiimes to tumble....
so what DO we do?.....
the same as that insanly fast driver , laps laps and more laps, get yourself a STABLE set i.e 1 from the "easy to drive setup pack" from the this forum and learn just like he had to, this way you will learn the track mutch faster feel more CONFIDENT and soon you will begin to see that aptimum racing line, the one where you can carry the most speed with the car settled and where you can get the most power put down the quickest, but its all about experiance and laps!... the other good point is you wont be getting grilled by the faster guys online because your driving a stable set your not spinning and slidding off the black stuff at every other turn....
some drivers dont want to or carnt be bothered doing there own sets, personly i think its a shame seting up a car is 60% of the fun imo but we are all different.
setups are a personal thing imho what works for one driver wont work for another driver, yes you can LEARN to drive another drivers set but why waste ya time trying to be someone ya not? your instictive driving style may one day be the fastest in lfs, if you can be ya self on the track and set up your own car, 90% of the fastest drivers do there own sets some just tweak other other drivers sets but it all come down to your PERSONAL driving style , not some guy 2000 miles away, once you have the laps behind you on a stable set learn how to set up your own car, so if you have a tire temp problem YOU can deal with it....
the obove is how those drivers doing insane times got there not by downloading WR sets and hoping for the best, if this was true we would all be driving F1 cars for real, hope this helps you newer drivers out a tad ......
remember setups dont make you fast, its YOU! goodluck
got to agree with the R1's reply's here..
i dont personly class ss as a high force's track twisty yes but its the high forces wich generate the higher temps, westhill for e.g is the worst for this, r1's should last you a lot longer than that, i duno what set ya running but if its a downloaded one its more that lightly a set close to WR times and unless you know HOW to drive that set your gona have problems , plus these sets are well known for eating tires...
personly i think just throwing more more psi in the tires can be a bit of a lottery, somtimes you can go the wrong way, loss of grip under breaking and underster for example, then you temp's get even higher... but its worth a try, all im saying is if your doing 7 laps now and there cooked dont expect to increase preasures and be doing 20 laps it just dont work like that...
my advice is
1. if its a WR set or close to it, get shut of it, do you own or get a more stable set, otherwise your chasing your own tale..
2. take a look at your driving are you asking the car to do things its not set up to do?, some like to be thrown into the apex some like a smooth turn in , get this wrong and yur temps will sky rocket and no amount of added tire pressure will put that right....
hope ya get it sorted
i dont personly class ss as a high force's track twisty yes but its the high forces wich generate the higher temps, westhill for e.g is the worst for this, r1's should last you a lot longer than that, i duno what set ya running but if its a downloaded one its more that lightly a set close to WR times and unless you know HOW to drive that set your gona have problems , plus these sets are well known for eating tires...
personly i think just throwing more more psi in the tires can be a bit of a lottery, somtimes you can go the wrong way, loss of grip under breaking and underster for example, then you temp's get even higher
... but its worth a try, all im saying is if your doing 7 laps now and there cooked dont expect to increase preasures and be doing 20 laps it just dont work like that...my advice is
1. if its a WR set or close to it, get shut of it, do you own or get a more stable set, otherwise your chasing your own tale..
2. take a look at your driving are you asking the car to do things its not set up to do?, some like to be thrown into the apex some like a smooth turn in , get this wrong and yur temps will sky rocket and no amount of added tire pressure will put that right....
hope ya get it sorted
Yup thats why i say put a bit more camber on the outside rear wheel (on BL that would be right rear) although i should of said add more negative camber but i know what i meant lol
P.S to mutch though will cause allsorts of problems so dont go over the top .3 MAX
lolP.S to mutch though will cause allsorts of problems so dont go over the top .3 MAX
body downforce modled! but its not adjustable I.E ride hight does not efect the about of DF produced.
as for curbs, soften up rear arb, soften front springs, also add a small amount of camber to the rear wheelthat is letting go..
driving style= get the car 80% pointing in the right direction before curb then reduce stearing slightly over curb, this settles the car more...
as for curbs, soften up rear arb, soften front springs, also add a small amount of camber to the rear wheelthat is letting go..
driving style= get the car 80% pointing in the right direction before curb then reduce stearing slightly over curb, this settles the car more...
well to be honest i personly think your fighting a loosing battle here and dont take that the wrong way
number 1 your pretty new here and are racing with WR sets, now its obviously your choice but these sets are normaly setup on the edge and its hard even for a veteren driver to find its HOTSPOT, as a e.g most quick sets will turn in like a demon but unless you have the HOTSPOT on breaking and turn-in / race line once the car initialy turns in it will understeer violently, looking at the rear tires compared to the front i would say this is part of your problem, and your not picking up on the understeer and compensating with more steering hence hotter front boots..
2nd thing is your using a WR with a gamepad, now i know some drivers using and a mouse or gamepad and there damn quick but 99% of WR sets were built up on a wheel and peddles, basicly unless your a wizard with tuning your gamepad its a recipe for problems like this,
final thing has already been said and that is WR sets are not 15 lap+ sets most kill the tires after 5 laps...
my advice is at least find a set that is gamepad friendly, 2nd try not to use WR sets (just becase that set is CAPABLE of producing stunning laptimes doesnt mean your going to be knocking them out anytime soon)
best advice is make your own sets although most drivers dont enjoy or have the time for this but it pays off 10 fold when you know why the car does what its doing and the bigest bonus is the set will be tuned to YOUR driving style...
hope that helps a bit
number 1 your pretty new here and are racing with WR sets, now its obviously your choice but these sets are normaly setup on the edge and its hard even for a veteren driver to find its HOTSPOT, as a e.g most quick sets will turn in like a demon but unless you have the HOTSPOT on breaking and turn-in / race line once the car initialy turns in it will understeer violently, looking at the rear tires compared to the front i would say this is part of your problem, and your not picking up on the understeer and compensating with more steering hence hotter front boots..
2nd thing is your using a WR with a gamepad, now i know some drivers using and a mouse or gamepad and there damn quick but 99% of WR sets were built up on a wheel and peddles, basicly unless your a wizard with tuning your gamepad its a recipe for problems like this,
final thing has already been said and that is WR sets are not 15 lap+ sets most kill the tires after 5 laps...
my advice is at least find a set that is gamepad friendly, 2nd try not to use WR sets (just becase that set is CAPABLE of producing stunning laptimes doesnt mean your going to be knocking them out anytime soon)
best advice is make your own sets although most drivers dont enjoy or have the time for this but it pays off 10 fold when you know why the car does what its doing and the bigest bonus is the set will be tuned to YOUR driving style...
hope that helps a bit
forbin i duno if you were joking or not m8 but i wouldnt have posted that if the guy was not ok or was at any risk, i follow f1 like man possesed
but acording to the official f1 site he drove him self home from the hostpital and is hoping to race at INDI!!!!!!! gota give it to the guys who crash test these things unbelivable strength Driver classes
not sure if this has been mentioned in some form or another but i feel if something was to be implimented it would send the LFS experience through the roof,
way to many times we get the shall we say "less experienced" drivers on servers causing way to many pileups resulting in many a restart and unhappy racers...
so what if the LFS driver database AUTOMATICLY put you in a given class going off your average laptimes? now obviously to do this 100% you would need to be classed for every combo so i duno if that would be asking a lot but at least class all drivers to each car?
then give the servers the option to use this new class function or not (NOT would make it a open server like we have now were anyone can join)
becasue from what ive seen of the meandathol wreakers/dont give a damn drivers is that they very rarely finish a race never mind get a lap time any lower that "3weeks.2days.4hours"
this ofcorse would not be punishing the new drivers still LEARNING because they are LEARNING and will get fast, while the morons will never learn becasue there..... well morons, so most of these pin brains will be stuck at the bottom 3rd of the classes so the rest can enjoy better racing...
we may even convert a few morons into leaning to up there average times and hey they may even enjoy RACING once they have learned what the break pedle does...
last thing would be that we should then have closer racing, hence you would be racing with drivers running times some where close to your own giving closer racing...
the server could choose to use this feature or not if they do they also choose the class of driver the server will except, and if the devs put up a stats page on the server demand for a given class admins could target the class better...
just a quick thought
way to many times we get the shall we say "less experienced" drivers on servers causing way to many pileups resulting in many a restart and unhappy racers...
so what if the LFS driver database AUTOMATICLY put you in a given class going off your average laptimes? now obviously to do this 100% you would need to be classed for every combo so i duno if that would be asking a lot but at least class all drivers to each car?
then give the servers the option to use this new class function or not (NOT would make it a open server like we have now were anyone can join)
becasue from what ive seen of the meandathol wreakers/dont give a damn drivers is that they very rarely finish a race never mind get a lap time any lower that "3weeks.2days.4hours"
this ofcorse would not be punishing the new drivers still LEARNING because they are LEARNING and will get fast, while the morons will never learn becasue there..... well morons, so most of these pin brains will be stuck at the bottom 3rd of the classes so the rest can enjoy better racing...
we may even convert a few morons into leaning to up there average times and hey they may even enjoy RACING once they have learned what the break pedle does...
last thing would be that we should then have closer racing, hence you would be racing with drivers running times some where close to your own giving closer racing...
the server could choose to use this feature or not if they do they also choose the class of driver the server will except, and if the devs put up a stats page on the server demand for a given class admins could target the class better...
just a quick thought
Wasnt that just fantastic!!
to pull a kubica (when you have had enough for the night and just launch it into a couple of walls and see how mutch damage you can do
Gunn same here on the diff ive never used a locked diff except for once but didnt like that, and i refuse to race on "alien" sets as you put it, making your own sets is 60% of the game i think so i always make my own too.....
as for tire wear now ive calmed down the rear end tire wear does seem a little better imo withe the new PL, and i have mid corner understear atm and the fronts are still holding there own for a good few lapps, so imo there is a slight improvement...
as for tire wear now ive calmed down the rear end tire wear does seem a little better imo withe the new PL, and i have mid corner understear atm and the fronts are still holding there own for a good few lapps, so imo there is a slight improvement...
well the day before patch i was getting 1.8.60's with it consitantly hotlapping was getting 1.8.50, and the car was still pretty stable,
after patch i drove same config and couldnt do a lap then i rememberd the new preload so dropped that to "0" same thing came on here for info on preload and tried it between 400 and 500 still the same...
but as i say before i changed ANY suspension i had big problems with the rear end letting go, E.G final turn on blackwood is taken at full throtle through there, before the patch its was more than stable but after the patch it let go VERY VIOLENTLY no indication it was going what so ever...
now since ive started the set from scratch im finding that its easyer to catch slides and it generaly gives you a weeks notice for it does let go, so what the issues were before i have no idea...
then again online people are saying with after patch sets there are getting loads more rear grip, i carnt seem to find it though i have to say the rears are spinning up way to easy and causing loads of power on oversteer for me, oohh well at least it will keep me buisy, one thing about LFS it never gets boring that for sure
after patch i drove same config and couldnt do a lap then i rememberd the new preload so dropped that to "0" same thing came on here for info on preload and tried it between 400 and 500 still the same...
but as i say before i changed ANY suspension i had big problems with the rear end letting go, E.G final turn on blackwood is taken at full throtle through there, before the patch its was more than stable but after the patch it let go VERY VIOLENTLY no indication it was going what so ever...
now since ive started the set from scratch im finding that its easyer to catch slides and it generaly gives you a weeks notice for it does let go, so what the issues were before i have no idea...
then again online people are saying with after patch sets there are getting loads more rear grip, i carnt seem to find it though i have to say the rears are spinning up way to easy and causing loads of power on oversteer for me, oohh well at least it will keep me buisy, one thing about LFS it never gets boring that for sure
most effected seems to be the FOX and the one im having most trouble cureing.... anyway scrapped th set started work again from scratch
this is strange im getting 110% the oposite effect?
, its not just me because i had 3 drivers ask the same thing online last night 1 had the same as you gentlefoot.. very strange indeed BOB: i fully agree with that and the springs too but i had to change a LOT, but some of that may have been me, if that was you you may have just added a touch of this or that, ya know how it is if you change the wrong thing you can be there for weeks lol the problem just moves somewhere else .... soooooo i duno just wondered if this was wide spread i gues
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