Disclaimer : Just me talking, nothing to do with my team :P
+1 Paul (for a change)
My next comment is not directed to DWB at all, but to the way that alot of LFS events seem to be going...
"I really think that putting too much emphasis on silly rules and penalising drivers for the actual race for not meeting some stupid rule that has been invented by an over officiated, power hungry rule maker is completely against the ethos of LFS. This sim is different to other sims in the fact it is so accessible, so please don't start ruining it with some bs made up rules to please the admins ego.
Yes, if someone is cheating, penalise them.. If someone doesn't use the correct skin in the actual race, penalise them, but ffs, leave people alone when they are only trying to play the game they love, stop sucking the fun out of LFS completely. Is there really any need to be so harsh on the qualifying run? Sorry, I forgot, you have to please your media partners and sponsors? Gimme a break....."
+1 Paul (for a change)
My next comment is not directed to DWB at all, but to the way that alot of LFS events seem to be going...
"I really think that putting too much emphasis on silly rules and penalising drivers for the actual race for not meeting some stupid rule that has been invented by an over officiated, power hungry rule maker is completely against the ethos of LFS. This sim is different to other sims in the fact it is so accessible, so please don't start ruining it with some bs made up rules to please the admins ego.
Yes, if someone is cheating, penalise them.. If someone doesn't use the correct skin in the actual race, penalise them, but ffs, leave people alone when they are only trying to play the game they love, stop sucking the fun out of LFS completely. Is there really any need to be so harsh on the qualifying run? Sorry, I forgot, you have to please your media partners and sponsors? Gimme a break....."
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Post your config file please mate, as I had major issues with 2 screening Softth.
You have to use softth.
Sonicrealms Racing would like to make it clear that we had no knowledge at all of this prior to the event, and do not tolerate cheating at all by any of our drivers.
We have removed Gjerde from the team and we are as disappointed as the whole community about this. I would hope that our diligence is finding the evidence required and bringing it to the attention of NDR will hopefully go some way to reassuring the community that SR stands for the highest morals and will always try our best to uphold our ethos of clean and fair racing.
As most of you know, we have been going since the very beginning of LFS, and we have worked extremely hard to build our reputation, but situations like this can seriously damage any teams reputation, so I would hope that if any teams thinks twice before trying to cheat, that at least some good can come from this sorry affair
We have removed Gjerde from the team and we are as disappointed as the whole community about this. I would hope that our diligence is finding the evidence required and bringing it to the attention of NDR will hopefully go some way to reassuring the community that SR stands for the highest morals and will always try our best to uphold our ethos of clean and fair racing.
As most of you know, we have been going since the very beginning of LFS, and we have worked extremely hard to build our reputation, but situations like this can seriously damage any teams reputation, so I would hope that if any teams thinks twice before trying to cheat, that at least some good can come from this sorry affair
Turn it off!!!
All it does is ask you for the 3rd time if you REALLY want to do what you asked to do in the first place. Windows already asks you if you really want to do it, why I need to be asked for a millionth time I have no idea
Oh and it stops most programs from working :P
I only twigged when I saw the results and Saturday was not top, shite Saturday is easily the best day of the week. Football, beer and no work tomorrow
What the hell are you on about?
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Oops, ^^^ the same, why don't you edit the OP and state what the vote is for
On windows 7, Superfetch is default to delayed start apparently, but as soon as it does come on, it will fill all the available memory with your programs, which is 2.5gb in my case, which is quite a bit, and it will continue to do this in the background, albeit alot less after the initial "thrashing" 
Yeah, I agree, I absolutely love windows 7. I used vista for a while but it was awful in some cases, and certainly alot slower than XP. Windows 7 is faster and it works. This issue I had above is the very first problem I have had, and I just wonder if the Asus smartdoctor was somehow messing the the superfetch? I still stand by my point that I would rather wait an extra second or two for my apps to start than have my hard drive thrashing like a fish 
Yeah I also had an issue with Asus Smartdoctor. For some reason it had eaten up 50% of my cpu when I took that screenshot. Uninstalled it now anyway just in case
Windows 7 64 bit, build 7600. Below is a pic of my memory, if you use Superfetch, your cached memory will be much higher than that
BTW I am not saying that this is a problem for everyone, it just fixed my particular problem, so just putting it out there in case it can help others.
BTW I am not saying that this is a problem for everyone, it just fixed my particular problem, so just putting it out there in case it can help others.
Yeah I had no issues with Vista at all, although the superfetch on vista is supposed to be worse than Win7. Strange indeed
Windows 7 Major slowdown
I have been having major problems recently with FPS issues and a huge freeze everytime someone left the pits. Everything worked fine in XP, but in Windows 7 it made LFS unplayable. After removing all my programs etc, it still didn't fix the problem. After plenty of research, I turned off Superfetch and hey prestro, my FPS has gone up massively and no more freezing!
So if you are having these issues, turn off superfetch. Superfetch basically tries to guess what you are going to do next and constantly accesses the hard drive, thrashing it like crazy loading in what windows "thinks" you "might" use in the future. For a gaming PC, and especially LFS for me, I would much rather have to wait maybe 1 second more for my programs to load in, than it load faster but be shite when it starts. It will also greatly reduce the life of your hard drive, as it constantly is accessing it, even when you are not doing anything. You can really see this effect when you start windows and suddenly your hard drive is going like crazy when you are not doing anything. I have no idea why it affects LFS so much for me, but it does.
To turn off Superfetch, goto Control Panel/admin tools/services and disable superfetch from startup. Also stop the service and empty the prefetch folder in c:\windows\system\prefetch.
Hope this helps anyone else having this issue.
Windows might take a little longer to load, as will firefox, LFS etc, but they will be much quicker when they do load. Also you will notice that your memory usage in task manager/performance will go down dramatically, as it no longer caches gb's of data into memory that you don't need.
Superfetch might be not a bad idea for office workers who open the same 10 apps every day, but for a gaming PC, it kills it, at least in my experience
So if you are having these issues, turn off superfetch. Superfetch basically tries to guess what you are going to do next and constantly accesses the hard drive, thrashing it like crazy loading in what windows "thinks" you "might" use in the future. For a gaming PC, and especially LFS for me, I would much rather have to wait maybe 1 second more for my programs to load in, than it load faster but be shite when it starts. It will also greatly reduce the life of your hard drive, as it constantly is accessing it, even when you are not doing anything. You can really see this effect when you start windows and suddenly your hard drive is going like crazy when you are not doing anything. I have no idea why it affects LFS so much for me, but it does.
To turn off Superfetch, goto Control Panel/admin tools/services and disable superfetch from startup. Also stop the service and empty the prefetch folder in c:\windows\system\prefetch.
Hope this helps anyone else having this issue.
Windows might take a little longer to load, as will firefox, LFS etc, but they will be much quicker when they do load. Also you will notice that your memory usage in task manager/performance will go down dramatically, as it no longer caches gb's of data into memory that you don't need.
Superfetch might be not a bad idea for office workers who open the same 10 apps every day, but for a gaming PC, it kills it, at least in my experience
Uninstall profiler completely, reboot, then run lfs without it after changing the combined pedals etc in windows control panel.
It is possible it could be a USB issue. If your wheel is plugged into the usb at the front, plug into the back, or at least a different port.
OK, after setting up a 3rd monitor, I have managed to get it working with softth in windows 7. It indeed does seems that it is impossible atm in the Nvidia/windows drivers to force span mode, so this is the only way afaik (not including eyefinity or triplehead).
Also, in windows XP, after getting span mode working no problem with 2 screens, after adding a 2nd graphics card, I couldn't get XP to span across the 3 screens, so had to use softth anyway.... So, in conclusion :
If you have 2 screens, use XP in span mode, works flawlessly, no softth needed. If you only have windows 7 or Vista, you will need to use softth, which was impossible for me to setup for dual screen
If you have 3 screens, you have to use softth no matter what (unless using ati eyefinity or triple h2go), and it is pretty easy to setup, and then it doesn't matter if you use XP, Vista or Win7.
Also, in windows XP, after getting span mode working no problem with 2 screens, after adding a 2nd graphics card, I couldn't get XP to span across the 3 screens, so had to use softth anyway.... So, in conclusion :
If you have 2 screens, use XP in span mode, works flawlessly, no softth needed. If you only have windows 7 or Vista, you will need to use softth, which was impossible for me to setup for dual screen
If you have 3 screens, you have to use softth no matter what (unless using ati eyefinity or triple h2go), and it is pretty easy to setup, and then it doesn't matter if you use XP, Vista or Win7.
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I couldn't get it working in windows 7 without using softth, but that failed miserably when I tried to configure it. In the end I gave up and installed windows xp on another drive in that PC, which I will play LFS on.
That is what I was hoping that this new multi monitor support would do, but it seems not. If LFS could provide this feature, it would be great
Scipy, is there something that YOU would think is useful information that an application like this could display? I am sure the devs of this app would listen.
I would think that maybe something like tyre temps, damage and clutch temp, i.e. display the f10 f11 and f12 menus, would be pretty useful? Saves having to press keys when racing.
I would think that maybe something like tyre temps, damage and clutch temp, i.e. display the f10 f11 and f12 menus, would be pretty useful? Saves having to press keys when racing.
Has anyone been able to get LFS working in Dual monitor setup with NVidia card in Windows 7 or Vista?
As far as I know, these OS's do not support span mode at all. After some research, I read somewhere that the only way to achieve this is if the game itself provides the multi monitor setup.
I would love to be able to use dual monitor, especially with this new patch, but cannot for the life of me get LFS to register the extra resolution settings of the 2nd monitor, unless I am missing something?
As far as I know, these OS's do not support span mode at all. After some research, I read somewhere that the only way to achieve this is if the game itself provides the multi monitor setup.
I would love to be able to use dual monitor, especially with this new patch, but cannot for the life of me get LFS to register the extra resolution settings of the 2nd monitor, unless I am missing something?
I have got it working, but it crashes after a little while. Error message below.
Using Windows 7 64 bit
Description:
Stopped working
Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: CLR20r3
Problem Signature 01: seven lfs telemetry.exe
Problem Signature 02: 1.0.0.0
Problem Signature 03: 4acd4098
Problem Signature 04: mscorlib
Problem Signature 05: 2.0.0.0
Problem Signature 06: 4a27471d
Problem Signature 07: 20c8
Problem Signature 08: 143
Problem Signature 09: N3CTRYE2KN3C34SGL4ZQYRBFTE4M13NB
OS Version: 6.1.7600.2.0.0.256.1
Locale ID: 2057
Using Windows 7 64 bit
Description:
Stopped working
Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: CLR20r3
Problem Signature 01: seven lfs telemetry.exe
Problem Signature 02: 1.0.0.0
Problem Signature 03: 4acd4098
Problem Signature 04: mscorlib
Problem Signature 05: 2.0.0.0
Problem Signature 06: 4a27471d
Problem Signature 07: 20c8
Problem Signature 08: 143
Problem Signature 09: N3CTRYE2KN3C34SGL4ZQYRBFTE4M13NB
OS Version: 6.1.7600.2.0.0.256.1
Locale ID: 2057
Thanks Dean for all your efforts. It really seems like you are doing your best to sort these issues out, and we all know it isn't your fault
I find these posts regarding the price of LFS frankly ridiculous. Any other game that you try to buy on the shelves today will cost around £44.
The fact that Scawen (wrongly IMO), has branded LFS an alpha product and decided not to distribute LFS in the high street has compounded the issue. His latest post seems to agree that the alpha tag is no longer applicable.
From my personal point of view, I have never in my whole life experienced anything that even comes close to LFS in terms of value. £24 for 5 years of constant entertainment. I spend double that every month on Sky TV, which thanks to LFS, I never get to watch
Asking another £12, or whatever they ask, from users who have been playing the game since 2002 is absolutely nothing. We have all seen the alternative with iRacing, which thank god they have not decided to do. If, god forbid, then went down that route, I would have spent £100's in the last few years. Also, if LFS did go the subscription route, I would leave instantly. But what I would happily pay extra for is exactly what the community has been asking for, real tracks, with laser scanned quality (and hopefully bumps), and more content.
May I talk hypothetically for a minute..
Scawen wants to charge £24 for S3, on top of S2. So, LFS S3, for a new user, costs £46 (normal retail price for a game these days). For us it is £24.
For this money, they will spend the money on marketing and distributing LFS in shops, putting in 10 Real tracks, putting in 5 more cars in, surround sound, dx9/10 quality graphics, better physics, sanctioned races/servers.
So, if they did this, they could afford to hire some graphics guru's, get some tracks laser scanned, and increase the user base. With some sanctioned servers/leagues/comps aswell LFS could easily (IMO) take over iRacing. iRacing get's away with charging >£10 per month, plus content cost, for a product that is vastly inferior to what LFS "could" be, with a modest amount of investment.
Hypothetical over
LFS already has a huge physics update coming, a new car and the prospect of S3 on the horizon. This is not before time IMHO, but it will be free.
When S3 does come out, I hope it will be a big change, but I do fear that it won't. I hope to god that S3 doesn't cater for the pentium 3/4's that LFS caters for atm. It will be 2010/2011, and to expect the majority (probs 90+%) of the userbase to have to put up with shite DX8 graphics and 2 channel sound to please the tiny minority, in spite of the huge progress computers have made in the last 10 years since lfs was first released, would be a massive shame
/rant over
The fact that Scawen (wrongly IMO), has branded LFS an alpha product and decided not to distribute LFS in the high street has compounded the issue. His latest post seems to agree that the alpha tag is no longer applicable.
From my personal point of view, I have never in my whole life experienced anything that even comes close to LFS in terms of value. £24 for 5 years of constant entertainment. I spend double that every month on Sky TV, which thanks to LFS, I never get to watch
Asking another £12, or whatever they ask, from users who have been playing the game since 2002 is absolutely nothing. We have all seen the alternative with iRacing, which thank god they have not decided to do. If, god forbid, then went down that route, I would have spent £100's in the last few years. Also, if LFS did go the subscription route, I would leave instantly. But what I would happily pay extra for is exactly what the community has been asking for, real tracks, with laser scanned quality (and hopefully bumps), and more content.
May I talk hypothetically for a minute..
Scawen wants to charge £24 for S3, on top of S2. So, LFS S3, for a new user, costs £46 (normal retail price for a game these days). For us it is £24.
For this money, they will spend the money on marketing and distributing LFS in shops, putting in 10 Real tracks, putting in 5 more cars in, surround sound, dx9/10 quality graphics, better physics, sanctioned races/servers.
So, if they did this, they could afford to hire some graphics guru's, get some tracks laser scanned, and increase the user base. With some sanctioned servers/leagues/comps aswell LFS could easily (IMO) take over iRacing. iRacing get's away with charging >£10 per month, plus content cost, for a product that is vastly inferior to what LFS "could" be, with a modest amount of investment.
Hypothetical over
LFS already has a huge physics update coming, a new car and the prospect of S3 on the horizon. This is not before time IMHO, but it will be free.
When S3 does come out, I hope it will be a big change, but I do fear that it won't. I hope to god that S3 doesn't cater for the pentium 3/4's that LFS caters for atm. It will be 2010/2011, and to expect the majority (probs 90+%) of the userbase to have to put up with shite DX8 graphics and 2 channel sound to please the tiny minority, in spite of the huge progress computers have made in the last 10 years since lfs was first released, would be a massive shame
/rant over
Maybe because he is administering the server you joker
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