Quote from amp88 :

Yep, that's the problem. On ovals the gaps are so small that any inaccuracy will make a big difference to the result. Despite saying above I wasn't going to do anything more towards this I spent a few hours on it today. Here's a second attempt showing the gap plus a predicted position. It's still not perfect but getting there somewhat. If I can make something that I'm happy enough to release would you like to have some sort of control panel for the application to show you who's on a hotlap and allow you to focus on them instantly to help with the broadcast? I've attached an image showing the fairly basic GUI I'm using at the moment for testing purposes.

Amp88 I would like to thank you very much for developing this ticker for me. I know this must be very hard work as this is very hard to implement and i thank you

Yes I would like a control panel please.

BTW was that LFS TV viewer or were you using the default cameras?

Also, I'm a little worried about the accuracy on the ovals. I know on ovals it'll fluctuate a LOT (it does in real life NASCAR) and i'm not worried about that. I'm more concerned with accuracy. Like I wouldn't like it to say "7th" when the guy's lap got him 3rd

I'm still surprised at how many fans JV still has. I remember that nascar rain montreal race and where was loads of people cheering.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v ... 601C5BC4C3DB7&index=2

(2:22 and 5:44)

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c ... /04/27/Patrick/index.html

It's a very very interesting article and I think sarah fisher spoke some wise words. Danica should stay at Indy. She won't do well with NASCAR's monster cars. Nor would I think she'll do well in circuit heavy F1.

She's lucky with Indy and she'll be wise to utilize that luck until the Indy teams start to want more results when the hype an publicity dries out. Interesting that fisher's warning can also apply to any other driver looking to hop discipline into oval stockcars

Shame about fisher though....as I consider her to be a very competent driver.

Last edited by lizardfolk, Fri 24 Jul 2009, 10:20.

Hello folks, I have a question for all the LFS aussies.

I've been told that Australia has a big racial problem. Is this true? Over exaggerated? I have a few people in the states that say that australia has a major problem with racism.

Just would like to put things in perspective as I'm asian, and I'm thinking of moving to the outback in a few years or so.

This is just an inquiry thread so, be as politically correct or incorrect as you want (without being a douche of course. Honest, serious answers please). If you think that Australia hates all non-whites, say so. If you think Australia is a happy melting pot where everybody's a brother, say so as well.

Either your constantly being kicked/banned.

OR you internet sucks. I'm sorry but either way it's on your end.

A

Quote from h3adbang3r :

I bet Villeneuve could do well. Just look at Mark Martin in NASCAR. The guy is 50 years old and has won 5 races this season.

Well we all know martin's a freak of nature :P

Quote from DieKolkrabe :

Current rumor is she's going to NASCAR (!)

Ha good luck. You have Jamie Wincup, Mika Salo, and Jacques Villeneuve looking in...kinda difficult for her to match then, and you also have good stockcar rookies as well.

The only thing going for her now is hype, but hype won't last if you don't get results

Quote from tinvek :

just because she isn't a top driver doesn't mean her carear will not have a peak, i hit my peak in tennis when i was 12 and hit the ball twice in a row. not brilliant but since every other effort before and since has been worse it is by definition my peak.. by your own admission she is currently higher in the standings than in the "champ" in other years, therefore unless she improves further she is also at her peak

aslso if you don't agree with the statement i suggest you take it up with the team principal of USF1 or whatever bernie's making them call themselves this month, since they made it and presumably know a lot more about american racing drivers than me

No no no I'm not laughing at you or calling you a retard. I'm just saying that the fact that they consider her 5th in the champ (just one position above her previous year's result) as a peak is hilarious imo. She hasn't even won a race this season yet. The only thing that should be said about ther her this year is that she improved slightly. If this is her "peak" then she's not going to go anywhere

Quote from tristancliffe :

You'd fancy her if she had scales though

So? What's ur point?

Don't underestimate scales, they are very stimulating with their bumpy hardness you should try it sometimes

Quote from tinvek :

the problem may actually be the fac that the team themselves said on radio 5 when talking about danica that it would be unfair for them to ask her to go into F1 when she's at her peak as by the time they are competative she would miss out on her best years. now if your any sort of recognised driver your not going to be attracted by a team thats saying you will be at the back for the next 3 or 4 years

Peak? That's hilarious she is currently only 5th in the points...and in all her previous seasons she score lower than that in the champ. She has also yet to win a race since japan oh so long ago. Patrick is THE most overrated driver in America

Last edited by lizardfolk, Thu 23 Jul 2009, 09:28.

Quote from 5haz :

http://www.f1technical.net/new ... e62ac8b8e6b0bf6d8d880ecbc



As far as I know 'Bild' is one of those tabloid newspapers so take this with a pinch of salt. I don't think he would do very well though.

As far as I know about the USF1 business:

Villeneuve is "interested" in returning to F1 but is not linked with USF1.

Danica Patrick says no, Scott Speed (lol) says no, and AJ Allmendinger says no. As far as americans go the only viable people left are IndyCar drivers although apparantly Indy is taboo for F1 teams

Not a single driver from Indy has made the jump. A few were linked but never produced anything (Ryan Briscoe).

Marco Andretti, Graham Rahal, Ryan Hunter-Reay (no plz) and Townsend Bell. There's also the A1GP camp: Johnathon Summerton.

And finally you have a few NASCAR "interested" Kyle Busch. As stated before I would like to see Jeff Gordon get a shot as he's proven he can atleast keep the car on the track (much more than I can say for Yuji Ide or Sakon Yamamoto lol).

Quote from manneF1 :

He is just too old to drive F1

What about Barrichello?

Quote from burnsy1882 :

Obviously the easiest way to test this mod online was to use my server that's already setup, so, I'm more than happy to lend it to whoever would like to use it for a league. So, AW+CW, if you'd like to use it, PM me to let me know who would be the main admin in charge of the league and I can change the admin pass to whatever they would like. I may be able to, with my advisor/consultant status, get the46 to broadcast the race/s if this goes through, as it'll be something totally unique.

That is very very generous of you burnsy and I thank you. (BTW I sent you a pm about an insim inquiry. I would like to talk to you about the track position ticker and the MoTec).

However, the mod that we'll be using is the edited mod with the wheelbase centered to the FXO.

I've uploaded a LFS version that's fully patched with it: http://www.filedropper.com/lfsnascar

So if you can either update that server to this, or have another server that hosts this version of the mod that would be great

Last edited by lizardfolk, Thu 23 Jul 2009, 03:48.

Thanks to Bob, there's now an edited version of the mod with the wheelbase centered (to the FXO but it looks good). So far the edit was top notch ty Bob

Anyways, the cause for this edit is due to AW and Clockwork working together to see if we can put together a league around this mod

Right now it's in the planning stages but we are all working around the clock to hopefully make this league one of the most unique experiences you'll ever have in LFS. Keep on the look out

Bob, the X10 is an old dedi...smokey is wondering how to set a server up with the mod? (i sent u a pm).

Quote from evilpimp :

Wouldn't that be CASCAR? :P

Lol I know some people who have been racing him in Montreal in karts just last month. He sure seems like he wants to keep fit and keep his racing senses sharp. xD I think he's way too old for F1... Anyone with grey hair is too old for F1 imo lol.

Yes, CASCAR

And jeff gordon doesnt have grey hair yet

Quote from Mustafur :

Washed up F1 racer FTL

He crashed on lap 1 of his Canadian NASCAR debut

Quote from Mustafur :

Well no actually, alot of drivers have been using 1 engine for over 2 races.

And what happens when you have about 2 engines left and with more than 7 races to go?

Quote from Mustafur :

No one would Retire on purpose if they where in 7th place becuase thats still Points!

Each track is different anyway, just becuase you retire at a certian track doesn't make you good at the next the car maybe isn't suited to it.

I never said anyone who was 7th or 8th or out of points should retire on purpose. But, do the math, I'm pretty sure that within two races, 10-6 points is a lot better than 4 even if within that 10-6 points there's a DNF.

Also, we're talking about engines and gearbox integrity. Not really about the car itself

Quote from 5haz :

But to finish first, first you have to finish, also you have to be in it to win it.

Rick Mears said that but he said that in reference to CART and ovals (i think it was after the 500 he said that but idk).

In F1, to finish first you first have to qualify first

Quote from BlueFlame :

Well what would they rather the drivers do score points in 1 out of two races or dnf in both? That's why Hamilton wanted to save, he knows he can get more than what he had then, if he saved the engine.

As I've said before....with the new rule it's better to finish < 6th and a DNF than to have two > 6th finishes. Just the way F1 is now these days.

Last edited by lizardfolk, Thu 23 Jul 2009, 00:49.

Not true.

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/ ... s-usf1-deal-imminent.html

I wish I could see Jeff Gordon atleast get a shot

It's not going to happen though...

Quote from 5haz :

Just because the rules are laid a certain way dosen't mean you have to think that way too, the current rules mean that the F1 field has become a bunch who can take the easy way out and give up easily, the rules may encourage that but that can't stop me from thinking that its not right.

Yes but adapting to the rules will certainly give you an advantage to those who decides to be stubborn and thus ruin their own race for the sake of "being in the spirit of racing".

Taking the advantage in an F1 championship or being stubborn for sake of the nobility of racing?

You can adapt to the new crappier rules and still fight to have it removed on the admin side. But fighting for it on the track will really make no difference. The only thing you'll manage to do is to short change your next race's potential. IDK about you but as a driver I'd much rather have a DNF then a podium or win than two straight 7ths....

Quote from Mustafur :

ok i may sound like all im doing right now is prasing Webber, but look at Australia this year.

after the first corner collison he continued on driving and even though with a damaged car he ended up finishing the race, i mean is it as simple as that?

Webber received a drive through penalty. Hamilton dropped like a rock when he received that puncture. Different circumstances.

I think I posted in the wrong section, but I'm not sure where to post this so...here I go.

Is there an insim or program that restricts how many laps a person can do on a server?

Is there a way to monitor how many laps a person did on a server?

Sorry for the noob questions

Quote from 5haz :

"Its the rules so thats how it should be done", I'm glad not everybody on the planet has this laissez-faire (pardon moi francais) attitude because if we did we'd still be living as cavemen. The engine rules should be abolished so that teams can rebuild or replace engines or gearboxes whenever they like, then drivers will have no excuse to get the maximum possible out of the car from start to finish.

So what do you want me to do...? Just sit there and complain? I dont like the current rules and I'm not defending them. I'm merely saying that with these rules this course of action is the most sensible. like it or not that's the fact

I dont run F1, and if I had a chance to influence F1 I would do everything in my power to change it. But I dont, and just constantly complaining about it is not going to chance it either.

But the rules isn't up for debate. Hamilton is. Let me repeat: Hamilton wanted to do the sensible thing under the current rules by wanting to park the car and save the engine and for that he doesn't deserve bashing.

If he was "bored driving" or performing antics to throw a tantrum, then he deserve bashing. But he didn't (as far as i saw)

It's really quite simple idk why I have to point this out.

Quote from 5haz :

What Hamilton did was valid under the current rules, but the rules, and what Hamilton did are both against the spirit of what sprint racing should be all about, if the rules werent so crap then Hamilton would have no excuse not to try his hardest.

If if if if if....but it's not. Read my first response....

Last edited by lizardfolk, Wed 22 Jul 2009, 20:05.

Quote from Mustafur :

well, yes.

Dammit....I feel sad now

Quote from Mustafur :

In part you can blame these rules, but really the driver shouldn't be asking his team to park it, that imo means things are not going your way so why bother racing?

For example say this was hamiltons first race, and he was out there to try prove himself in F1 put in the same situation i can garentee he would be too scared to even question why he should be still racing.

But see, that's a whole different set of circumstances. You cant take one absolute ideal and just arbitrarily apply it to every situation.

I dont like the drive and park attitude that many people have in all categories of motorsports and thankfully it's still a minority. HOWEVER, you cannot deny that in some, even many, circumstance it is the better and sensible course of action.

Drivers operate on an overall basis now and since there's really no difference between a retirement and a 7th place. Why ruin the next race's potential at a podium or win?