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Mazz4200
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Well, it's been over 20yrs since i studied economics at school, so everything that follows may be complete nonsense, but i'll have a go.

I believe it's based on the premise that one must speculate to accumulate.

From the Governments point of view that means it has to try to stir the private sector into positive action in the hope that it results in both employment and spending within it's nation which in turn results in more revenue from taxes.

As an example, in the the UK in the 1980's the Government invested heavily in the infrastructure of deprived areas of the country, then gave huge tax breaks to large multinational companies (mostly Japanese may i add) in the hope some would take the bait and build factories in these areas (an example of this is John Delorean building his factory in Belfast, although that soon went tits up :schwitz Anyway, many foreign companies did take the bait, which resulted in increased employment in those areas, which in turn resulted in increased spending by those newly employed individuals, which in turn resulted in more revenue (income for the government) through income tax and vat etc.

So, as a result those particular areas of the country now had more spending power due to lower unemployment, which lead to more shops/leisure/entertainment outlets etc, being located there, which also lead to greater revenue through taxes for the government.

An odd fact, (although nothing to do with the topic) but, in the UK the largest retail outlets and the highest proportion of shops per person, are all in areas that have a history of high unemployment and poor health. Essentially the working classes like to spend their money, while the middle classes like to save their money. In a nutshell (and perhaps bizarrely), a nation that saves it's money has an unhealthy economy, but a nation that spends it's money has a healthy economy

Simply put, it's like an economic snowball that the government/state throws from the top of a large hill which (hopefully) gets bigger and bigger as it rolls down the hill, from which the state can then take their share.

Hopefully someone else will come along and explain it a bit better, but, that's about the best explanation i can come up with after all these years, and my memory's not all that good these days


quick edit: Lol 3 people posted at exactly the same time...and guess who came last..
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Mazz4200
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It may sound unlikely but i can assure you the first time i saw it on BBC it was in black and white. The second time i saw it, it was in colour and i actually thought they had colourised it, and it wasn't nearly as good.

Maybe it was 'just an artistic thing' but honestly, it really does work better in B&W, go try it, then tell me what you think.

Obviously looking at those links it was filmed in colour i'm not going to argue with you on that, but i can assure you it has been screened here in the UK in B&W. I even think a few 'Art House' movie theatres have shown it in B&W, including my local.
Mazz4200
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Quote from deggis :Black & white version? I know about the couple of different cuts (original tv series -> theatherical version -> director's cut -> and apparently the latest "original uncut" version) but I've only seen the director's cut. But B&W? Someone explain this to me. I'm confused

It's been on British Tv quite a few times over the last 20yrs or so. Sometimes it was in black and white, sometimes in colour, sometimes in series format, sometimes the whole film in one go, but thankfully always in German with English subtitles.

I just assumed the colour/B&W were different versions, but maybe the chaps at the BBC just turned a few knobs and dials and made it B&W.

Honestly it's far far better in B&W. As Eggzotic said above it really brings in the claustrophobia, hardens the actors faces and adds even more tension. And i guess it helps that most of us think of WW2 as a black and white war (so to speak )

Try renting it and fade the colour out of your TV, it'll make the film so much better.

Interestingly, the last time i watched it 5 or 6yrs ago, i had a good friend of mine there, who happens to be a German. He spent the first half of the film laughing at the posh German accents, and the second half of the film (after the first merchant ship was sunk) incessantly apologising for his nations role during the War...

Whichever way you see it, it's a damn good film, it's just better in black and white, that's all
Mazz4200
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Quote from March Hare :Which song?

It's the first line of "I Should Be So Lucky"......."Is it my imagination...da da, da da da, da-da"
Mazz4200
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Yeah, i've just been reading about it on the Top Gear website, so you saved me the trouble of posting a link

Wot an insane car 0-60 in under 2.5 secs 0-100 in less than 6 !!

The guys at Ariel are hoping to sort out a drag race with a Veyron (according to TG)
Mazz4200
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Just a little bump to tell you the bets page has been updated with 3 more questions.

And we've now got 33 teams, though i'm sure we can get a few more before the season starts on the 14th.
Mazz4200
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Yeah you where right Superslider, go for it http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0057012/

@Pine-fin, i realise you created this thread, but don't you think it's gonna be a real pain in the arse to get a screen grab from a DVD you don't own, when there are millions of film pics to be found in Google ?

After all the game is 'guess the movie', not 'who can show the prettiest screen grab'.
Mazz4200
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Lol

Ok, you'll definitely know this film, so i've tried to find a pic that's not so obvious.

But, if you know it, you'll know it
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Mazz4200
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Quote from JeffR :This thread has gotten off-topic.

I'm pleased you said that, coz, i wanna say, i've seen this thread everyday since it was started, and i can't read the bloody title without getting that chuffin Kylie Minogue song ringing in me head.........and quite frankly it's starting to piss me off :grumpy:

For the sake of my sanity, would it be out of the question to ask for closure.
Mazz4200
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Quote from pb32000 :How To Behave On An Internet Forum

Necessary viewing for some.

Sounds like a very cheap copy of the Zero Punctuation guy.

The link James posted is much better, should be posted in every sticky in every forum in every internetwebwideworldsite thingy on the err internet-web thing, and maybe on cornflake packets and milk cartons too.
Mazz4200
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Quote from JeffR :Ok, since Mazz4200 properly picked out "Three days of the condor" from my last post, he should get to pick the next movie.

No No Jeff, you got DW's tough one By rights you deserve to choose the next one. (anyway, i'll only pick something stupidly easy or ridiculously hard)

Quote from JeffR : Note "Three days of the Condor" is a movie I'd definately recommend for anyone, it's that good.
If you decide to find it a video rental store, it will be most likely listed as "3 days of the Condor"
instead of "three", so look for "3" and not "T'.

And i'll second that too. Probably one of the best films he ever made, classic 70's thriller.

And i'll also add, while you're in the video store pick up a copy of "Day of the Jackel" and the "Fourth Protocol" or better still, go buy the books
Mazz4200
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Nah, think you've got me on this one, the clues don't help much either, and if it's a cowboy movie i ain't got a chance of getting it.

Final guess, i'll say "Shane", but it's been about 25yrs since i've seen it so that's a complete shot in the dark
Mazz4200
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Quote from NotAnIllusion :Unless it was the royals' press office that arranged the leak: Harry goes there only for a short time; appears to be doing it away from the spotlight; focus on media leak instead of royals; etc. /tinfoilhat

:rolleyes: Sheesh bloody Finns !

What the hell would you know about OUR Royal Family and this fine nation we once called Great. It's not like you liv....oh ermm..

Hey dude i think you been here too long, seems like you've picked up some bad habits and become a stereotypical cynical old Brit (spelled with a 'g' btw)
Mazz4200
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Quote from STROBE :see FlashEarth for the circuit. It's cool that google's satellite image was taken on race day - there's cars going round the track!

Here's a daft little thing to have a look at if you've got MS Virtual Earth.

You have to follow these instructions to the letter otherwise this won't work:-
Pull up Virtual Earth and go find Brands Hatch.
Then when you're over the circuit put it into Hybrid Mode.
If you know the circuit, find the pit straight, and pan north and you should see a big field with marks on it like it's been used for a dirt bike track.
There's one such track that stands out the most (near some buildings) Zoom into that.
Then go into Birds Eye Mode.
Pan down till you see the track. When you see the cars lined up on the starting grid, zoom into them, but don't pan too far down.
Now follow the full GP circuit, but try to keep only one section of the road in view at a time (in places it doubles back on itself, so try to keep to the route of the circuit without seeing other sections)
Be careful at the far end (over by "DIngle Dell") sometimes it trips you back into road mode. (if it does trip out just nudge it north a tad till you can go into birds eye view again)
Then when you return to the pit straight...
Go past the start finish line again....

It's nowt amazing so don't complain, it's just one of the daft little quirky things that amuses me.....
Mazz4200
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Quote from Mackie The Staggie :he really wants to be left out to fight. Fair do's on him actually going though,

Yeah totally agree with that, he actually seems like quite a decent bloke, for a royal. And the fact he was out their covertly shows he wasn't just doing it for the 'royal publicity campaign'.

Unfortunately now it's been leaked i think they'll have to bring him back, otherwise he'll just endanger those around him even more than before.
Mazz4200
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Quote from swisscosmo :Ya but when i get the MacBook Pro i'll be getting Vista so i'll be able to play games for the PC and Mac! and i won't be getting the Mac or Vista for maybe 2 years so Vista will be cheap by then and there will be more games for Vista too.

Ahhh, ok..in that case, if i were you i'd try and pick up a cheap but good graphics card while you're waiting for the Mac.

You'll see a huge difference in frame rates and you'll have more games to chose from too. Even my old Nvidia FX5500 played Ghost Recon and Operation Flashpoint without and problems, and you should be able to buy one for next to nothing these days.
Mazz4200
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Quote from swisscosmo :Ok thx but what does GFX mean?

Quote from Mazz4200 :graphics card.

You'll not be playing many games on a Mac though, they're not designed for gamers (unless you only wanna play Xplane)

If you're after a good gaming rig don't rush into anything. Maybe put a post in the hardware section and ask for advice. There's some real genuine computer geeks erm i mean nerds, no sorry i mean computer experts in these forums.

But in the meantime, go checkout Ghost Recon and Operation Flashpoint, they really are two of the best FPSers ever made
Mazz4200
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Quote from DeadWolfBones :It's a bit earlier.

Earlier ! Wow, erm,, I do recognise the scene from somewhere, but the only B&W film i could fit it into was the one mentioned above.

If it's earlier are we talking about Brando, Jimmy Stewart or Gary Cooper perhaps ?
Mazz4200
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Yikes !! I'd definitely recommend an upgrade to be honest

Im not familiar with the GFX, so i'm guessing it's an onboard. If so, that's really gonna limit your choices. I think you're gonna have problems running anything from the last 3 or 4yrs

I'd highly recommend Operation Flashpoint and Ghost Recon (the original) if you like open roaming shooters. Or if you prefer linear/follow the carrot type games, have a look at Call of Duty 1 and the early Medal of Honour games. (although COD is heaps better than MoH)

Other than that, there are plenty of other arcade type shooters, but they're not really my thing, so can't really give many recommendations.

But seriously, think about getting a proper graphics card, it'll be just like getting a new PC.
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Mazz4200
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That's a toughy, but a pure guess, "Bad Day at Black Rock" Spencer Tracy ?
Mazz4200
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:ices_rofl Man'O live, that's one of the funniest things i've seen all week

Just imagine the owners face as they walked through the door....classic.

Would love to see the insurance claim for that one.

Mazz4200
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Quote from tristancliffe :I don't need to apologise to you - you have a Lancia Fulvia as your avatar, and are thus below peasents!!!

Corrected



Edit: And now changed back....much better than that heap of junk Lancia
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Mazz4200
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Quote from tristancliffe :That means Admittence DOES NOT EQUAL Apology. It's a bit geeky around here, so bear with us.

So who's going to apologise for letting you in here ?
Mazz4200
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Totally

It's in my top ten for sure. Especially the black and white version, for some reason the colour version doesn't have the same impact.

Anyway, it's your turn bud
Mazz4200
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Yeah, i knew it was too easy...

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082096/
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