It's just, you're above posts may cause a bit of a reaction with some of the old timers in here....

We'll see.



Edit: Lol, too late, and i have a feeling there's more to come, sit tight.

Quote from pinoykid13 :

who is the newb

Join date: Feb2008

It's not an insult, just pointing out you're a new face around here.

Welcome

It's tempting, real tempting....but no, not with a newb.......not yet....

Quote from duke_toaster :

Explain why in the US there are more christians than than atheists (relative to number in general population) in prisons.

Most are "Born Again" after they've been incarcerated.

It's mainly due to the extensive prison ministries, run by a few 'well meaning' christians, but in most cases, publicity seeking TV Evangelists.

Although i guess it can't be a bad thing to have on your prison record when it comes round to probation time and early release.

Quote from flymike91 :

My quick take on morality: The bible preaches love for all, not to say that that always happens, but can you really expect every atheist parent to teach that same sort of morality? They might teach "love everybody, but not those damn mexicans" Nobody has perfect morals, and therefore cannot teach morality to anyone else. It is assumed that the bible was written by people that were above any twisted view of morality. No commandment says "love thy neighbor, except that one"

Then maybe someone should tell that to God himself. By all accounts he's going to throw many many billions of us into the pit of Hell for the rest of eternity, for exercising our God given right of 'free will', and choosing not to believe in him.

I'm sorry Mike, but you seem to have a very naive view of the word of God. I'd suggest you do a little bit of research about that particular quote. You may be surprised by what you find !

Oh, and the Bible doesn't preach love for all, not if you read it properly, which is another thing i suggest you do

Reasonable USB pedals for less than £20, nah, ain't gonna happen unless you get really really lucky on eBay.

You can get USB rudder pedals for flightsim for around £20, but, there not even worth it. They're basically the cheapest set of pedals from the crappiest wheel setup on the market but with the inards from the crappiest joystick. Stay well clear is my advice.

You could, if you're feeling adventurous, make a clutch pedal as NZ(Hun) suggested. It's not hard.

Or if you want something now. Then a quick look on eBay finds these:-
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Quote from danowat :

Just a quick bump for those that might require something along these lines...........

I found this yesterday, Podrunner

Yikes, all that would do to me is give me a stonking headache.

Ever heard of the "Penguin Cafe Orchestra" this this and this and many more besides.

Seriously, you'll want something with a high tempo that doesn't batter your ears. So why not listen to something that is easy to listen to and puts a smile on your face.

Quote from niall09 :

hmm, that post was rather hard to read. Can you see what I am saying?

I thought it was a poem.

I'm not a Banksy fan, but here's his take on the subject of art.

I havn't the faintest idea what you're on about TC, so i'm sorry for this off-topic post.

But i've got to ask..

Quote from tristancliffe :

a slightly customised Bananalbum skin,

Ban-anal-bum skin ??



Feel free to ignore me, but, it made me laugh..

Quote from three_jump :

wrong.

Well if ColeusRattus was correct then it was at least set in that time period (nearly). 1979 is almost in the 80's, and i guess i've always been a few years behind the fashion

But, as DWB hinted at, a 2006 movie ain't allowed . The OP PineFin only wanted pre 2000 films, and you don't wanna make him angry, you won't like him when he's angry

runs away........


edit: too late, nevermind...

Quote from SamH :

Has anyone read Robert Ardrey's The Territorial Imperative or The Social Contract, or knows about these books? I've just been talking to a friend of mine about this whole thing. He knew Ardrey, and he says these two books are worth a read.

http://www.ditext.com/ardrey/imperative/imperative.html
http://www.ditext.com/ardrey/contract.html

Not read them myself.

Quote from wsinda :

I do agree with Dawkins that our rules and laws favour religions, not only in the US but also in Europe.

Yeah, that really bugs me too. Especially that they can call themselves a charity and don't have to pay taxes, nor make public their income.

Thats a tough one, but i had that same stripy black and white wall paper in my bedroom as a youth, so i'm guessing it's from the early to mid 80's, if that helps anyone ?.

If it were me, i'd set up a TV and DVD player and watch a decent up lifting film, something like Chariots of Fire.

Quote from Clownpaint :

but dismissed any suggestions that Alonso would be suffering handling issues. I love the neutrality of it all.

I don't remembering them dismissing any suggestions of him having handling problems. I don't remember them making any comment about it at all tbh.

Quote from DeMS :

Care to elaborate/point when he has shown this behaviour on the track?

I mean, people talks that he's arrogant while in fact they don't read his actual statements but media 'we're going to have big sales-because we're selling a big story' kind of manipulation, but as of now I have not seen much about it nor actually cared to think it's something unique from him.

Here's just a couple of the many incidents of his attitude :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feslxpzokuk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjSFWc9jpFg

Don't forget, in a public professional sporting environment what someone says and what someone thinks or does aren't necessarily the same thing. There's and old saying over here "Actions speak louder than words"

Seems like Maxi agrees with you Albieg http://www.itv-f1.com/news_article.aspx?id=42243

(note the thinly veiled dig at Hamiltons recent speeding ticket in paragraph 4, the guy just can't help himself)

Anyway, it doesn't look as though he's going down without a fight, however, his presidency is up for renewal/vote/whatever ? next year so it's my guess we won't be seeing him for too much longer, regardless.

Quote from SamH :

As a good example, what Zeitgeist says about the story of Dionysus (/Dionysos) is utter rubbish. It's a plain lie.

Would that be Dionysus, otherwise known as Bacchus the Greek God of Wine ? wow, shows how much attention i was paying to that vid, i didn't even hear his name mentioned !

Anyway The Bacchus was my local when i lived in the city centre of Newcastle about 70yrs ago. Great place, always full of goths and punks ahhh happy days, ohhh to be a teenager again.....

Not been down that part of town for years, wonder if it's still there probably a trendy wine bar now, or an estate agents

Quote from Polyracer :

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7810993921354002750

Again I recommend that all watch this vid, - originally posted by Not Sure in this thread.
Its a long video - almost two hours actually, bu I found it most controvertial and interesting.

I'd suggest having a look at the website that vid came from http://zeitgeistmovie.com/statement.htm (the vid is on the "home" page)
As that linked page says, don't just take their word for it, rather use this information as a springboard for your own research, then come to your own conclusions. I don't want to get into it to heavily right now, but i will say with regards to all the 911 stuff. Some of the clips and info used come from well known conspiratorialists (is that a word ?) and some of them have been known to ermm..lets just say, they've been known to embellish certain facts from time to time.

Quote from Polyracer :

However I was always prepared to believe there was guy called Jesus, my thinking was that there had to be at least someone about who all the stories were written.
But I spend more and more time looking into religeon than I used to, just as a subject to be investigated, and now I'm really not sure if the guy existed at all - certainly nothing seems to be written about him whilst he was alive - no official record at all from what I can see - so did the guy actually exist at all?

While it's always possible, it does seem very unlikely. If he did exist he was only one of several messiahs doing the rounds at that time. And it would seem if he did exist he certainly didn't have anywhere near the impact on the population that the New Testament would have us believe.

Quote from Polyracer :

Always the message, "we are right everyone else is wrong" don't even look or listen to anything that says differently, we are the one true path.
But time after time religeon has had to move its opinion and techings as science has rolled back the mystery of our planet and the sun and the Universe, now it is clinging on to its last vestige of credibility (to some at least) by saying that science still cannot say what was there before the big bang, and what was there must have been created by God.
Of course in time science will find out what was there pre-big bang and as usual religeon will yet again move the goalposts.

One of the golden rules when starting a new religious concept is, be ambiguous with your methodology, yet direct and clear cut with your rules and regulations.

Quote from Polyracer :

Religeon requires unquestioning faith.

And therein lies the greatest problem with all religious belief. How can one ever know if they've chosen the right God if they're never allowed to ask difficult questions of that God. But lets be honest about this, if you where selling yourself as a deity, wouldn't you put that clause into your manifesto too ?


A word to the wise, when investigating this sort of stuff, try separating God from the religion. From my own investigations of religion, i have to say, if there is a God, a real God, then all the worlds major religions do nothing but claim him as their own, then try to define him based on their own particular morals and views on life in general. If, for example you spend a great deal of time studying the bible, you'll discover that it doesn't paint a particularly glowing picture of "The Lord God Almighty", infact if i'm being honest, i'd say if the real God is the God of the Bible, then the Bible is more of a hindrance than a help to him, and by some margin !

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Quote from xaotik :

I have a feeling that not everyone uses the term "free will" to describe the same thing in this thread.

But if everyone is free to define their personal meaning of free will, doesn't that mean free will does indeed exist ? Or is that just free thought ?

From personal experience i can assure you that there is no such thing as a free will. Bloody lawyers !

Quote from Racer X NZ :

A point made by a Llama I spoke with who'd been in a Chinese prison for 10 years was that he'd always felt that he'd had free will because nobody could control his thoughts !

So, any side effects form this Buddhism stuff then? No strange behaviour noticed or anything ?

Quote from zeugnimod :

And I'm confident about the yes/no bets. Exept the one with the safety car. It isn't supposed to rain, is it?

No, but it might sand

The place finish bets are becoming tricky now. Massa seems really quick over one lap, but will he ever finish a race this year ? The maccas seem off the pace of the fezzas, but are the fezzas reliable (they've been whinging about the ECU again), and both the BM's and the Williams are in with a shout of a podium and even a win if conditions allow.

Quote from Jakg :

According to my RS teacher "Day" isn't the correct translation - it merely means "unit of time". When the Bible we have now was translated it wasn't done literally, it was also made more readable, and so "Unit Of Time" -> "Day".

Then your RS teacher was lying to you A lot of 'believers' tend to re-translate the bible when they suss-out that it doesn't fit into the 'real' world.

For the ancient Hebrews, and the bible, a day is from sun-up to sunset, and the dark bit in between is called night. (See Genesis 1:5) Basically it is a normal 24hr cycle based on the earths rotation, just the same as everyone else uses.

That 'Unit of Time' thing is simply a cop-out, to try to explain that the world must have taken longer than the claimed 6 days.

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As for on topic and Niko's strange 'provement' things. I've been involved with various religions for over 30yrs, and i can honestly say i've never heard those terms before Just sounds like new age hippie bullshit to me !

You old dog you ! Congratulations dude

All the best to You, Geraldine, Leo and baby Nicole Lets hope for peaceful nights...

Tell you what though, if there was ever a photo made for the 'Caption Competition Thread', it's this one http://www.lfsforum.net/attach ... id=52997&d=1207308032

Quote from JamesF1 :

You can't adequately answer Sam's 'riddle' without more information. Just having the plane's top speed, and it's takeoff speed... plus a statement of conveyor speed, makes it impossible to calculate

Yeah thats what i told him too, but it seems as though he's a hard chap to please.......hang on, i've got an idea...

SamH, we've worked out the answer to your riddle, it took a while, but i'm absolutely certain we've got the answer. Infact i'm so certain it's correct that we won't believe you if you say it's not.

And behold after much 'deep thought', the answer to your question is: 42

Easy


edit: oh bollocks, too slow, again...

seriously though, i havn't a clue about this sort of stuff, so i'll have to leave it to the others. Infact, the only reason i'm posting in this thread is i can't sleep, and i'm a bit bored right now.

Last edited by Mazz4200, Thu, 3 Apr 2008 00:51.

Quote from JamesF1 :

This thread is unbelievable, I'm actually speechless at how people can't see that the plane can quite easily, and quite happily take off, regardless (assuming a few factors, as Kegtys also mentioned).

Gobsmacking.

Well ok Mr Smarty-pants, if you're so clever lets see you answer big old SammyH's teaser

Quote from SamH :

Okay.. let's shift the riddle a bit. Say a plane needs 50kts to get airborne and has a max airspeed of 95kts, and you start off with the conveyor, not matching the wheel speed, but wheelspeed+5kts.. how long will it take the plane to get airborne?

I'm timing you