Depends on what OS is on your phone. If it's windows mobile then your spoilt for choice for a calender, a lot of people like Thumbcal. If it's a symbian os i think Yahoo do a free calender/email/address book type thing that shouldn't be to 'cacky'. It should link up with Outlook to, and any Yahoo email accounts, as long as you use Ypops.

Personally i hate MS Outlook with a passion. I've been trying to get my ppc sync'd with my PC in Linux using Evolution and Thunderbird, but i'm having a few issues with telling Linux it has the ppc connected, it needs all sorts of geeky programming stuff going on in the terminal and it's stumped me a tad. But i'll do almost anything to avoid using Outlook and Active Sync.

Quote from Shotglass :

i have the replay right here and happen to be the one who posted it in the other thread and i dont see any noteworth difference in the gap when they both went off at the same spot and when kimi rejoined a lot later
i agree its stupid that this is even possible in the first place and if it were up to me they would both have ended up stranded in a gravel trap but i dont think kimi gained much by it

I did notice the lengths at which you went into in (over)analysing the Bus-Stop chicane incident in the other thread, so lets not do the same here. In fact i did think you were being unusually Teutonic in your approach to proving your point, and quite frankly it was beginning to scare me, so stop it, stop being so damn German .
Lets just agree to disagree. Although lets agree to putting the gravel traps back, and maybe a wall or two...

Quote from Shotglass :

the only way that kind of decision would make the fia partial would be a precedent where they penalised a mclaren driver who finished well outside the points

If i remember correctly it used to happen quite a lot back in the 'good old days' 80's early 90's. I'd have to spend several days in Wiki to give you examples (which i'm not gonna do), but i'm sure it has happened, although not exclusively to McLaren cars.

Quote from Shotglass :

it is but so did just about anyone else => put trebuchets there that fling anyone who drivesoutside the while lines to the moon

OT: "Northern Exposure", that hippy dude wanted to fling a cow but wasn't allowed, so used a piano instead. One of the best bits of Telly i think i've ever seen. Will try to find it on Youtube when i get the time..

Quote from Shotglass :

probably not but do you honestly care if fisichella gets a 25 second penalty that drops him from 19th to 20th making sutil the new 19th?

Never liked or rated Fisi tbh, so i guess i wouldn't care, no. But i think Sutil has some potential, so yeah, anything to boost his confidence and his F1 stock would be a good thing.

Quote from Shotglass :

how many of these have been anything other than british?

Come-on Shotty, i'm yer a-typical Brit, you don't honestly think i've put any effort into learning a Johnny Foreigner language do you ? I did look in some Deigo website, but typing loudly in English and pointing at stuff didn't seem to have any effect, so i left it...

Quote from Shotglass :

how anyone can still claim that the fia favours ferrari in the light of these rule changes during the schumacher years is a complete mystery to me

A cynic would say F1 is purely a business these days, so it wouldn't be beyond the realms of fantasy that Bernie had a quiet word in Luca's shell like, and struck a deal with Ferrari to forgo the championship for a few years to keep the sponsors happy. But with some sort of guarantee of a return to Ferrari's winning streak in the late naughties. Some may say that, but not me, i'm not that cynical, not yet anyway.

Quote from Shotglass :

+1... except the front engined part

Mercedes W196's, Maserati 250F's, 1950's style Auto Union's and Alfa's. Even you would want to watch those thundering round Spa and Monaco

Quote from Shotglass :

and tbh with you the relatively lax way the fia dealt with mclaren after the spying takes away much more credibility than this

I was reading a rather Interesting little fact about that just the other day. Had a look but can't for the life of me find the link. But, apparently, that $100m dollar fine has never been implemented. Not one single cent of it has been paid, and it doesn't seem as though there's any great hurry to chase it up. Dunno how reliable the source or the site i read it from is, but it may be something worth looking into.

Quote from Shotglass :

but would he remember anything afterwards?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VW2oAkjcJ4

I swear to you that lad IS a reincarnation of James Hunt, he just doesn't give a sh*t does he . I'm a big fan of Kimi's tbh, i think he's been good for F1. Not that i'm overly bothered by this new generation of squeaky clean word perfect sycophantic F1 wonder kid types that everyone seems to hate. But it is nice to have a different personality on the grid. As Martin Brundle said, "Kimi's just a lovable lunatic", and we all need a lovable lunatic somewhere in our lives.

Lol, probably

But they would have sat down and had a drink together afterwards. Nowadays it would end up in court with someone claiming compensation. Probably Bernie..

I realise it's not the done thing around here, but i tend to agree with Intrepid (Alan ?) on this one.

Imagine if this had been Alan Jones and Keke Rosberg...."Ahh f*ck it, he was much quicker than me anyway, he deserves the win. Now, who's round is it and give that brunette me room number".

Bureaucracy has been slowly killing the sport for years, and i can't see it ever changing. Seems the term sportsmanship has evolved into something i no longer recognise.

Quote from Shotglass :

when did going through a wide radius suddenly turn into an advantage? the laws of physics must have changes since i last checked

I'm not going to claim i understand the physics involved, but quite clearly Lewis was dropping him all the way from La Source, but Kimi caught up again in that one corner, so obviously he found more grip by staying in the run off area. Watch any replay, there's plenty in the other thread.

Quote from Shotglass :

oh please if you look at it from the onboard and consider kimis perspective he most likely wasnt able to see the williams until lewis turned left hard to avoid rosberg and then simply did react to avoid hitting either car

I'm not saying Kimi placed his car with the intention of blocking Lewis' return to the track. It looks like that was the only way Kimi could have gone. But, if Kimi hadn't have closed the gap by running wide at Pouhon it's highly likely Lewis would have been able to rejoin before Kimi had reached them.

Quote from Shotglass :

to what possible effect other than to make the fia look petty?

Err, to show impartiality ?

Quote from Shotglass :

the fia very rarely hands out race changing penalties for cars outside the points and unless the driver made a grave breach of safety regulations theres absolutely no reason to either

So FIA rules only apply to drivers if they're in a points winning position ? Is that legally justifiable ? Are drive through penalties only given to drivers in the top eight positions ? Is that fair ? Is that the way the sport should be governed ?.
I'm not against the sport having these types of rules as seen in this particular situation, but it does the sport no favours if they're handed out to some and not others who do exactly the same thing. Look at Monza, on countless occasions drivers (Massa in particular) cut the chicanes and ended up with bigger gaps to the drivers chasing them down, isn't that gaining a sporting advantage ?

Quote from Shotglass :

or maybe he just looked at it again while not having to watch 18 other cars at the same time and changed his mind? is it really that inconcieveable?

No it's not inconceivable, but it is inconsistent, and lets be honest, it's not exactly the hardest job in the world is it, watching telly and coming up with an opinion. Charlie Whiting has been in the sport for as long as i can remember, and i've been watching F1 regularly since 1978. By now he really should know what's what, and he really should be able to stand by his own convictions.

Quote from Shotglass :

also im not sure what the protocol is but afaik any cutting incident shows up on the race control screens as car #whatever missed an apex and id hazard a guess that the stewards get that log and probably a personal log with all incidents that might or might not be of interest to them from whiting regardless of what whitings personal take on the situation is

I'm not sure of the procedure either, but i guess the initial logging of a cars misdemeanour is nothing more than some bloke sitting in front of a couple of dozen TV screens watching every car on every lap, and pressing a button when he sees something untoward. Who HE is i dunno ? it might be Whiting himself ?

When all's said and done, the decision has been made, the penalty stands and the gap between Lewis and Massa is still 1pt. Nothings gonna change that now. But, from what i've been reading on forum after forum, website after website is countless die-hard fans saying they've had enough of this kinda crap and have vowed to turn their backs on the sport. Time will tell if they actually do, (i somehow very much doubt it). But the bigger issue is how the sponsors are gonna view this. Back when Schuey and Ferrari were winning everything, fans and TV viewers were turning away in droves, which put the willys up the sponsors, hence the rule changes of 2002 to try to artificially constrain Ferrari's obvious technical superiority. (personally i though it was a shame) My worry is this kind stuff is gonna scare off the fans again, and the sponsors too....which actually might be a good thing, get rid of these fair weather supporters and sponsors who haven't a clue or don't care about the sport. So it can return to the good old days of the Garagistes, and National Colours. Front engined F1 cars anyone ?

Seriously Shotglass, do you really think todays decision is a good thing for Formula 1 as a global sporting event, or does it make it look a bit half arsed ?

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Quote from Shotglass :

brits.... youre lifting the wrong hand idiot

Corrected, see attached

(Please note, he's now a Welsh postman)

N.B have to admit i didn't know it was a right handed salute, guess you learn something new everyday.

Scoop, just found a picture of Max Mosley with a 2009 spec F1 car http://www-uxsup.csx.cam.ac.uk ... techlinks/Postman-Pat.jpg

Quote from Tomba(FIN) :

Who's it gonna be next ? Obviously someone with a very small tripod..

Sorry, don't mean to be disrespectful to the dead and injured or their families.

But it's just another example of how f*cked up some people are, and how badly the system is letting both us and these nutters down.

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I've only had a quick look through that official ruling posted above so i may have missed a relevant section. But if Hamiltons penalty is upheld then surely Kimi should be imposed a similar if not more stringent penalty for his actions at Pouhon (sp?).

If you remember both He and Lewis went wide at the corner as the rain increased. Lewis returned to the track as soon as he could whereas Kimi continued around the outside (making up all the time and distance he lost in the first section of the lap), and gained an obvious sporting advantage in doing so. At the following corner, Lewis was forced wide and off the circuit by the Williams, and Kimi was able to place his car in such a position as to prevent Lewis from re-joining the track and thereby was able to pass him. Irrespective of the fact Kimi crashed out later in the lap, he still gained a sporting advantage by going off-track with which he was able to pass a competitor at the very next corner. If Kimi hadn't continued around the outside of Pouhon then he simply wouldn't have been as close to Lewis by the next corner and wouldn't have been able to place his car in such a position as he did.

Granted a retrospective penalty to Kimi would not change his finishing position or the points situation. But, "Rules are Rules", so this situation must have been scrutinised by the stewards also, shouldn't it ? It WAS a breach of regulations after all. So does the official result indicate Kimi was awarded a retrospective 25sec penalty ? nope http://www.spagp.com/results/season/2008/799/ was it even looked at by the stewards, nope.

Point being, if you're gonna enforce one rule on Lewis and McLaren, then all the teams MUST be judged and adhere to the same rules. When that doesn't happen then who can blame life long fans, the media and sponsors for crying foul.

Anyone else think Charlie Whiting deserves the sack ? SamH said above that the stewards can instigate an investigation off their own backs if a blatant breach of the rules has occurred. But at the time Charlie Whiting didn't think anything was untoward with the situation. Surely it's part of his job remit to be able to identify a blatant breach of the rules, and then enforce the correct punishment or procedure to rectify such blatant rule breaking. Yet, at the time he didn't seem to have a clue (or did someone have a few quiet words with him at the end of the race ?) Reading some of the linked sites posted above i'm not entirely sure Charlie Whiting is a guy to be trusted, period, let alone entrusted with such an important position within the sport.

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Quote from AMB :

It's weird that you know that, lol that means I have 49 years left in me

Oy vey you're only 17 !!, why the hell are you thinking about death at that age Go outside, find yourself a girl, get laid and leave all the worrying till you hit your mid 30's

Seriously don't waste your time thinking too hard about stuff that has no answer, just go have some fun.

N.B. didn't have a clue about the average age of viagra buyers. That was just the first number that came up in a quick google during the ad break.

Quote from AMB :

Nice, bit like walnuts in a sock.

Lol

BTW the average age for viagra customers is 66...(not sure if it's the husbands or the wives buying it though...)

Quote from AMB :

I don't want to go through the old man phase,

You'll feel differently when you're a lot nearer to it (unless you have a terminal disease or if you really have lost all hope at that stage of your life)

Quote from AMB :

it makes me think I want to live my life to the fulliest and take every chance I get to do things and enjoy life.

That's not a bad attitude to have tbh. If you can maintain it without stepping into wanton recklessness then you'll be almost assured of a fantastic, thrilling time. But sometimes it's the unexpected things that happen to us and how we deal with them that are the most challenging and perhaps rewarding aspects of this weird thing we call life. And if you think about it, if your life does turn out to be a thrill a minute, why would you want it to end when you're still young. Yeah perhaps we all cringe when we see OAPs lying in a hospital bed with a load of tubes and machines sticking out of every orifice. But that doesn't mean your gonna end up like that. There's still guys shagging women and running marathons in their 90's. So if they can do it why not you ?

As to the original question of what happens after death. I've meet and talked to 2 people who were clinically dead and came back to life, and i know one person very well who claims to have died and come back to life. But, i'm getting distracted by the golf here (it's good stuff) so will tell you what they told me a bit later.

I use it to keep the neighbours awake.

Should really get a new fan for it but, meh, the neighbours make even more noise than me.

Not a huge golf fan but i've got to admit it was fantastic entertainment last night. That course looks amazing, it's really gonna test the men from the boys if it gets down to the wire on Sunday.

And where the hell did the yanks dig up JB Holmes. I've never seen anything like it, how he manages to putt ok is beyond me, surely at least one side of the ball must be completely flat after he's hit his drive. Sounds really different to the rest when he tees off, kinda like a mini tornado and a sonic boom.

Good stuff, looking forward to the next couple of days.

Lerts has a twin

:sadbanana

Think Gil's hit the nail on the head TBH. Plus he's probably fed up of all the bullshit that's being going on in F1 the last few years, or maybe he just fancies a new challenge.

Although if next years NASCAR looks even vaguely like an F430 then a few questions need to be asked.

Quote from SamH :

I do seriously want out of this thread.

Oddly enough i feel exactly the same about this forum as a whole

Quote from SamH :

I refuse to believe that you haven't also seen these images, since anyone with even a tiny bit of interest in this topic would surely, at SOME point, have done a simple Google search to see if they existed or not, and would have found them straight away. I have to ask, what is your motivation for re-implying something that I'm 100% sure you know is untrue?

Boris doesn't even need to go that far. He just needs to look about a dozen or so pages back in this very thread. Where he asked that very question and was give a couple of dozen or so pictures of the plane wreckage at the crash site by myself.

Thing is neither Boris and perhaps a more vocal UK41K (or whatever he's called) haven't brought any new questions to this thread. They're both regurgitating everything that Racer XYZ NZ postulated when this thread kicked off originally. Back then every conceivable theory was highlighted, questioned in detail and summarily dismissed as total bollocks by those of us with at least half a brain cell and a vaguely rational mind. Yet you all wanna keep on having the same old argument over and over again, asking the same old questions, giving the same old answers, calling each other eejits and wondering why no one respects our point of view. I swear you guys just love the 'sport' of having a good old barny regardless of the subject matter, whether it be 9/11, religion, other racing sims, Lewis Hamilton, whatever. Yeah, you can lead a horse to water but you can't stop him from picking a fight with his own reflection.

Anyway, here's a picture of ground zero i found purely by accident a couple of days ago. It brings no evidence either way as to the nature of the perpetrators or answer any questions asked in this thread. What it does show is the frightening scale of the destruction and the huge seemingly impossible task the rescue workers and the clean up staff were faced with in the aftermath of the attack. It's an enormous picture (approx 14mb) so it's best if you right click and 'save picture as' and have a good long look at it. It may be trite to say this, but, lets not forget the human cost involved in this event both during and after, lets never forget September 11th 2001
http://www.flickr.com/photos/masona/2856005424/sizes/o/

Been looking at GTR Evo the last few days but didn't notice this thread until a couple of minutes ago.

So on Nitrous' recommendation i've just ordered it Even though it's only got a couple of cars that interest me, the ring looks fantastic.

Only £17.99 from play.com as someone above pointed out, so even if it is a heap of crap at least it's cheap.

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Quote from thisnameistaken :

Proof that i'm actually nice sometimes
I live on a busy street in York. It's a route home from the pubs, so in the last two weeks I've:

Dragged a bloke inside my house to get him away from a bunch of chavs trying to mug him, then entertained him with whiskey and fags and packed him off home once the coast was clear.

Got a cab for a girl (and paid for it) who was wandering down the street in bare feet looking completely off her head who put her arm around me slurring "Can I be in the group?" (my girlfriend's answer: "It's not a group, it's a couple. It doesn't work with you!").

Tonight: Picked a drunk 65 year old Italian bloke called Angelo off the pavement, put his shoe back on and half-carried him to his house a mile or so away, having to stop every 100 metres or so to receive a catholic blessing from him and prayers to get Jesus to make me see the light and start attending church.

I think it goes with the territory and I assume that just because I don't see my neighbours doing this it doesn't mean they're not actually doing it when I'm not there. So who else lives in a derelict hot-spot like I do?

Nice

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Quote from thisnameistaken :

Please stop turning JTbo's forum into gay paradise.

Well that didn't last long did it.

Quote from mookie427 :

except a laughable demonstration with plastic desk tidies

Just a thought about these desk tidies (or in-trays as we used to call them back in the 20th century)

If these things are so damn strong - as demonstrated in said video clip - how come none were found in the wreckage of the collapsed buildings ? I mean, there must have been thousands of em in the twin towers.

I held once had the pest control contracts for numerous psychiatric hospitals, Kwik Save, various farms throughout the North East of England, Her Majesty's Prisons, and the RAF.

So i guess that means i'm a clinically insane shelf stacking Geordie farmer with a criminal record a pilots license and a penchant for killing small furry animals.

Explains quite a lot tbh...


Ok so humour has never been my strong point.
I'll shut up now.
Thank you...

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Quote from xaotik :

I'd think it's more of a generic cracks-under-pressure-when-things-aren't-going-as-predicted sort of thing

You mean, he "did a Sol"

Or should that be "did a Campbell"



Or maybe even a Fry ?

Lets just hope he didn't do a Radcliffe in the car...

You could always ask him to set up 5 different email accounts in Microsoft Outlook, then sync them to a pocket pc, along with a months worth of very important appointments and tasks.

I've been trying to do it for a week or so, and it's got me completely stumped

Anyone who can do this without getting a bucketful of errors and not having half your emails go missing MUST be some sort of computer genius imo

No no chaps, he may have a point.

The last two races are in China and Brazil, and Hamilton would never do anything as daft as screwing up at those tracks now would he...