I like pies, i do

aah, i couldn't really think of any witty line to follow yours, so i tried to take the piss out of the fact that you have a small vineyard in the back garden.

In retrospect, maybe i should have said nothing, and carried on with my eternal search for decent internet porn..

Apparently Mclaren fill their drinks bottles with wine from a small privately owned Cretan vineyard.

A close source has disclosed that the drinks button and the piss limiter button are actually wired together.

A Mclaren engineer was recently quoted as saying "Greek Wine, piss, what's the difference ?"

Quote from Tigershark :

Most if not all teams had/have a big button on their steering wheel commonly labelled OT; Overtake.

In McLaren's case, it's the yellow button on the upper right: http://www.mclaren.com/feature ... active_steering_wheel.php

Two points:-
a) It obviously doesn't bloody well work then
b) Notice how close the Pit Limiter and Drink buttons are to each other. Maybe, just maybe, that's what caused his problems in Brazil last year ?

Quote from Clownpaint :

http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/he ... detail/080324104300.shtml

Essentially, the press asked him about rumors with Ferrari, and he gave a sensible answer I'd say. The story is what you / the news agency want to make of it. Unless Renault get their act together we might see him at Ferrari next year, but he'd be pretty thick if he wanted to race uncompetitive cars all the time.

Perhaps, but he's still a cock though !

I've done some checking, and, It's made by the CST boys (Cannon Simulation Technologies) i.e Leo Bodnars company.

The wheel's not in full production yet but, by God it looks stunning.

Just a little bit more info at the RSC Forum http://forum.rscnet.org/showthread.php?t=314424 But obviously they're not saying too much about it at the moment.

How much do you want that !

Mazzarartea - Mazz4200

Bet you never worked that one out

Quote from Gekkibi :

I use http://www.leobodnar.com/. Works perfectly and it is small enough to hide just about anywhere.

I've just had a look at the two vids on that digital display page...Wowza !, that's some piece of kit he's got there. Do you know anything about that wheel ?

Alonso hints at Renault exit.

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/ ... o-hints-renault-exit.html

What a cock !

Quote from Tigershark :

F1 also had these kind of 'overtake' buttons for years prior to the FIA imposed revlimit of last year, the only difference to A1GP being that its use wasn't restricted by the governing body of the sport.

Really ? wow, i either didn't know that, or i simply don't remember knowing. (probably a mix of both :shy

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The problem with overtaking starts in the corner that leads onto the straight that has a heavy braking zone at the end of it. i.e the aero doesn't allow the car behind to get close enough in the corner (because of understeer), which means it's always playing catch-up down the straight (and as far as i'm aware, there's less of a slipstream affect coming from the lead car these days) Which results in the 'coming from nowhere' banzai moves into the braking zone.

This was asked a few days ago

http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=40685

Yes LFS can handle about as many controllers as you can throw at it. So 84 buttons shouldn't be a problem. And if you use something like Joytokey and the possibilities are limitless.

There are quite a few USB gadgets on the market to help cockpit builders. Flightsim forums and websites are the first place to look, but also have a look at the RSC forum.

Edit: Just remembered, this http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=40206 was posted a few days ago too.

Last edited by Mazz4200, Tue 25 Mar 2008, 02:09.

SamH's suggestions

1. A picture of your coffee mug (or whatever soda you regularly drink while LFSing) on your desk at the PC. I think thats a really great idea too, my favourite mug is very dear to me (it's the only thing the wife let me keep in the divorce settlement )
   
   
2. A picture of your cellphone. Potential for more willy waving there
   
   
3. A picture of your hand (waving?) Don't forget Dustin's a member of this forum, so yet more potential for willy waving
   
   
4. A picture of the content of your pockets That'll be a piece of cloth for me then
   
   
5. Your TV remote Or, a series of pictures of where you think the TV remote might be hiding

Last edited by Mazz4200, Tue 25 Mar 2008, 02:21.

Don't know if any of you younger chaps remember the "Turbo Era". But, the cars were fitted with a dial so the turbo boost could be turned up or down, effectively making it a push to pass button/knob/thing..

Although in the early days it was more of a "push to get to the scene of the accident quicker" button, or a handy "engine self destruct" switch. However, just before the turbos were banned, rumours around the paddock suggested the BMW engines in the back of the Brabhams were producing about 1500bhp on full boost ! from 1.5 litres !. And they were pretty reliable (if used wisely)

So, the point is, it won't entirely set a precedent if modern F1 cars have them. Although i'd personally hate F1 to go down that route, i wouldn't rule out Bernie ditching the idea.

The moveable wing thing is a shockingly bad idea, and potentially very very dangerous. Imagine you have a slight knock at T1 breaking whatever device is used to move the wings. You're blasting down the straight with minimum wing settings, you arrive at the corner, flick the switch, think your wings are now at max downforce, try to turn in, and suddenly find yourself headbutting the wall at 300kph. We've now got 3 proper street circuits, and 2 semi-street circuits...no run off areas...no escape roads to speak of. I wouldn't be surprised if we have a return to the "good old gory days" of F1.

Well, it seems as though March only has 14 days in it this year. (can't believe how quickly it's gone :schwitz

So, your suggestions for Aprils Avatars...

I'm thinking of:-

An April Fools gag type theme
or
A pic of your favourite mug
or
We all systematically steal whatever avatar Spanky happens to be using..

Quote from deggis :

Who cares about global warming anymore... because SUPERNOVA is coming!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=l-9WsKlKXJI

Even worse, 2012 is coming

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecTE6lXI-m0

And even more tragic than that, i'll be 4 years older, double

Quote from RocksGt :

Nice!
Drink Team is now 4th on subleague and 9th on general ranking

Yeah, just had a quick look, and we've actually got 4 guys in the top 9 in the overall league...not bad, not bad at all

Quote from Hyperactive :

In one sense the oval racing is the purest form of motorsport. It was the way motorsport was done at first, it was all about maximum speed and minimum of corners.

To be honest, i completely miss-read Tristans post. But as it turns out, i made quite a tongue in cheek reply .

As a point of interest. Why do we need to make F1 more interesting ?. As you say, money is probably it's biggest problem. If F1 is becoming dull, then surely (and in theory) that means it's less enticing for large sponsors and TV companies. So if they begin to back off, then there'll be less money overall in the sport, and it can return to similar budgets of the 80's (comparatively speaking) and get back to more of a grass roots level, where creative inventiveness was the corner stone of the sport and not the deepest pockets.

I have to say, i really enjoy watching F3 (and have done for years) when it's on TV. It's almost how F1 was back in the 80's, except with even tighter controls on the technical side, i.e it has a similar atmosphere to ye-olde F1, almost a cute amateur-ish naivety to it (so to speak) . So it's very much down to drivers/setups rather than having the best and most expensive super-duper trick machinery. + you get to see the stars of the future.

Bernie Ecclestone's house is up for sale at the moment.

http://www.savills.co.uk/resid ... ID=2484413&pID=102117
http://www.hamptons.co.uk/Sear ... ubMenuID=BuySearchResults
http://www.lloyds-group.co.uk/properties/l0049.html

It's apparently the most expensive private home in the world.

Quote from Hyperactive :

Well, the looks of the car is just one aspect of it. And you don't see how ugly the car is while you sit in it

must find bucket..:vomit:

Quote from tristancliffe :

Sadly, the idle TV watcher wants to see accidents or overtaking before even looking twice, ........But the money-grabbers in charge realise they can get more money out of a dumbed down but popular sport than a complex niche sport. Then we'll have to find something else to watch vaguely as pure.

NASCAR

Quote from Hyperactive :

It is not about bringing back the glory times, it is about making F1 races more interesting.

F1 has never had glory times tbh. It's only because of poor memories and rose tinted spectacles we tend to think things were always better in the past. You'll understand that Hyper, you're getting on a bit

And F1 has always been interesting imo, and i expect (and hope) it will continue to be so. Bernie's 77yrs old, he can't go on forever. (unless he really has sold his soul to the Devil)

Quote from tristancliffe :

customer cars are a bad idea these days

Thankfully they'll be banned in a couple of years time..

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Sweeping rule changes have always been part and parcel of F1 for as long as i can remember. Some big changes, i.e getting rid of skirts, were actually enforced mid-season. I've got a feeling turbos were banned mid-season too (although i'm sure some google intellectual will put me right on that one)

The difference these days is, the rule changes are made in an attempt to appease the television viewer. Whereas in the past, the changes were made primarily for safety and fairness.

Back in the late 70's early 80's, F1 was actually a minority sport as far as TV audiences were concerned. And it's only because Bernie and his ilk wanted to milk it for even penny they could, when they realised they couldn't hack it as team managers.

In general racing terms F1 has always, always been boring, but, in the past, the excitement came (partly) with the unreliability of the technology. If you remember the 89 season (i think it was 89 ?) Senna either won the race, crashed, or his car fell apart. And this lead to Prost taking the title, even though he won less races than Senna. A similar thing happened in 82 when Keke Rosberg became champion, he only won one race. Interestingly, the points at the time went 9,6,4,3,2,1. Which brings in the other thread about the points system rewarding winners, or not..

It'll be interesting to see how 2009 pans out with the new rules (although personally i'm not keen on a few of them), but if you, as a motorsports fan want to see close action and plenty of overtaking. Then i'd suggest you go watch MotoGP, WSBK, WTCC or something similar. Stop whinging, and leave us life-long diehard F1 fanatics alone so we can fall asleep infront of the telly in peace.

If it's current cars we're talking about, then i say beyond a doubt, the Jaguar S-Type and the Chrysler PT Cruiser.

I'd post pics, but they're both so intolerably ghastly, i fear i'd probably throw up. And, i utterly utterly loath what both cars are attempting to represent.

Vile, vile pieces of junk.

Anyone who buys or even drives either machine deserves to be shot imo.

Odd, i could have sworn i did much better than last week, but, i got less points in this race..and dropped 6 places !.

I'm a bit miffed about the bets too. I had Massa down for getting the pole, but after reading someone's post in the other thread saying it would definitely rain, i changed it, and also the safety car question too. Damn that bloody globe trotting jock ! (mental note to self, never ever believe anything said on teh tinternet)

Is there a prize for coming last ?, Wales perhaps ?, Estonia ?, a night out with James Allen ?

Looks like that spoof western with Kirk Douglas and....ermm..someone else ??

Can't remember the film name without cheating..

Quote from JTbo :

Check out portfolio They rock also

Wow, the artistic talent on offer is simply breath taking, there's so much to look at on the main page alone. Some of their work makes 99.9% of internet sites look positively amateurish.

Although Volvo had a fantastic micro-site for the C30 last year, and the "Mini Mini" site a few years back was great too.

Last edited by Mazz4200, Sat 22 Mar 2008, 23:52.