Quote from tristancliffe :

If I want to play nKP - a game that includes a server browser - then why should I have to fire up my web browser, go to a page, choose a server, copy the IP, paste the IP into nkP, realise that I've missed the joining period, go back and do it again until I get online.

Come on, you can't deny Tristan has a point!

This is clunky at best! and keep in mind we're in 2009 and even free games have had perfectly working server browsers for quite some time now.

It makes no sense to question his dedication to simracing... and if he has little time for it, it's obvious he doesn't want to waste half of it copying and pasting around.

I usually keep F9 on when I'm fiddling with sets.

During races I sometimes switch the overlay off but in some situations it can be hard to tell the drivers I'm lapping from the ones who are ahead of me. It'd be nice to have a sort of reduced overlay mode.

Not necessarily, if your SO just calls in to tell she'll be late, it's ok. Takes little time and does not require any hard thinking or focusing my attention away from the road: an SMS would be worse.

OTOH what if, as a passenger, she suddenly decides to announce she's pregnant? It's hard to make generalizations

Quote from wien :

Personally I find the pre-emptive "Apple fanbois buy anything shiny" whines at least 134% more annoying.

Truth is always annoying

http://slashdot.org/pollBooth.pl?qid=1633&aid=-1

Quote from thisnameistaken :

talking to a passenger to talking on a phone and the results were pretty conclusive - phone conversations are a bigger distraction than you maybe realise.

Broadly speaking I can agree on that - though I think it depends from the content of the conversation.

I voted for handsfree, especially wireless. It's far less intrusive than messing with the A/C controls.

The RAC has gauges mounted on stalks so you would need to change the model I suppose?

Quote from Bob Smith :

You could practise all week in a racesim and never learn as much about actually driving a car in normal conditions, as you would as your first 2 hours in a real car.

Hear the voice of wisdom You can stop considering altogether.

As for learning the pedals... the only thing you can learn in a sim is clutch left, brake center, gas right Except for that, the clutch doesn't work anywhere like a real one and for a number of reasons I find more difficult to carry out a smooth take off in LFS than in any road car I've ever driven IRL. The brake pedal on most wheels bears no resemblance to the real thing.

You won't be able to learn the smoothness which comes more or less natural when you're behind the wheel of a real car, e.g. in LFS you can dump the clutch or stomp on the gas/brakes without any ill effects. Do the same IRL and your passengers will throw up whatever they ate last christmas in no time.

And I'm far from having covered all the differences that makes it basically useless

Just for the record, the new Fanatec wheel has a rumble effect on the brake pedal to simulate ABS action. I don't think that is supported in LFS though.

Quote from Bob Smith :

Hence why Ackermann is something of a hot topic at FSAE level, but GTR / high level Formula machines don't bother with it and just use a little static toe.

I just found this interesting tidbit:

Quote :

Some race cars use reverse Ackermann geometry to compensate for the large difference in slip angle between the inner and outer front tires while cornering at high speed. The use of such geometry helps reduce tire temperatures during high-speed cornering but compromises performance in low speed manoeuvres.

Which could be partly reproduced in LFS through toe in

Might be worth mentioning there's no need to take apart the pedal base if one would still want to have warranty. The base already comes with holes for screwing it down, IIRC.

Quote from Shotglass :

'screw you if you cant speak italian

If I was to say that I know very little about the nKp community that would be a huge overstatement, my educated guess is you're interpolating a bit too much

Guess time is about ripe for a lock?

Simca Rallye



With NOS

IRL I brake with the ball and hit the gas with the outer side of the foot. I still find it hard to do in LFS because of the brake pedal travel.

Quote from Ikaponthus :

As a side-note, If LFS adopts a similar pricing structure to iRacing then I'll stick to rFactor.

Word on the streets is the devs suddenly dropped all their plans to switch LFS to a monthly payment plan as soon as they read your post

Last edited by NightShift, Sun 4 Jan 2009, 20:48.

Considering how most players seem to spend or have spent a lot of time in the demo, I can't really disagree with you.

That, and I don't really think the devs could be tricked in such a childish way anyway

Last edited by NightShift, Mon 5 Jan 2009, 00:03.

Quote from The Moose :

I wasn't surprised at all.

I assume you have great trust in people having a short memory there are sure good things in nKp but as a sim is far less complete than LFS or iRacing are. Buying it is like investing on the promise of it becoming better - and when one has been burnt (or others have), certainly one can't complain about the lack of warnings.

In fact, I wouldn't be surprised at all if a good part of the thousand new guys on nKp, were actually new drivers who never heard of nKp or simracing before.

LFS might be plodding along with its slow release cycle, but at least it has a decent track record. Kunos OTOH... let's just say that rebuilding one's reputation can be harder than to make a new image from scratch

I'm certainly going to try 1.0.3 - 1.0.2 worked well on my machine and despite some oddities and the interface (which is frankly nothing less than junk), I liked the FFB. No hurry to rush out and get it though.

Quote from The Moose :

Kunos is completely rewriting the netcode/collision box etc in the coming months, so it will get a lot better.

That gave me a bad feeling Let's just hope you're right - more competition should benefit us all.

Maybe they're trying to lure the devs into rushing in S3 with the promise of more money?

Quote from The Moose :

i can't see me needing another sim for years.

Glad to hear that, 1.0.4 won't be out before a couple years anyway

Sorry couldn't resist But seriously, I was somewhat surprised to see so many people getting a new license - was it me, I'd wait to see at least another 2-3 patches before buying kunos' New Deal. 1.0.3 must really be awesome

At a grand total of TWO posts I say we have a nomination for Best New Forum User 2009

Yeah, like we're gonna see any new track environment before S3?

Could use some new configurations in the meanwhile - I'd go as far as to say, some have already been planned

Quote from shiny_red_cobra :

My reason is that, after so many years of playing S2 for the one-time payment of 24 pounds, I feel like the devs deserve more for such a great game that's provided me with so many years of fun.

Understandable, though one wishing to contribute further to the economical welfare of the developers, has some choices besides the obvious additional licenses: there's credit to be used for high res skins, SMS notifications, etc and also the merchandise sold at LFSShop.

Quote from Echo51 :

+3.1415926 from me ^^

Looking forward to get your license, uh?

Quote from Echo51 :

Drive nice and there will be no damage

Quite right, go slower and you won't be crashing at every corner. I know it's not as easy as it may seem, especially because the feeling of speed is wrong most often than not.

Using a wheel helps a lot, just in case you're using anything else.

Quote from Bandit77 :

but, NightShift, I also think that what we see here is not 1:1 to what we have on the servers... simply because "people in the forums" do not equal "people playing".

Fair enough, though I have a feeling there are a number of underutilized G25s out there. Which if you think of it, it's quite a waste.

I would expect people to play it to the max of their equipment choices, just as much as you would expect anyone to use the best graphics settings their computer let them run with.

I used sequential mode when I was on the pad, now it would feel meaningless to me to use anything different from what the car has.

It's a simulator after all, and if I wanted to play something with cars in it, that requires skill and no wheel whatsoever - I would go back to TrackMania. That's a game and bears no resemblance to reality, it's all about mastering it and having fun in the meanwhile.

As for willing to win, it's a bit like those people who buy soccer management games and then want to play no other but the top teams, because easy = fun. It's just beyond me