erm... Conroe e6600 and Athlon 4600+ are twice as expensive as the models I previously mentioned. The thing is, I just can't afford that much.

Quote from Forbin :

1. You didn't specify WHICH Athlon X2 you're looking at.
2. It's AM2, not AS2.

Since it's at about the same price point as the Opteron 165, I'll assume you meant the X2 4600. I can tell you right now that the X2 4600 will be faster. They're practically the same CPU, only the X2 4600 is clocked 33% faster (2.4 GHz vs. 1.8 GHz).

However, you will need to buy DDR2 with the X2.

OK, sry fixed those.

Looking to buy a new processor.



Looking at Opteron 165 (939 socket, DDR, 1MB L2 cahce) and Athlon 3800+ x2 (AM2 socket, DDR2, 512 L2 cahce).

Price is same. Opteron prices just dropped radically.

Which one is faster in default configuration? Which one has better stable long-term OC possibilities?


If I choose Opteron, can I reuse my PC2700 DDR SDRAM?

Last edited by PLAYLIFE, Fri, 27 Oct 2006 23:46.

Quote from skstibi :

Hmm,
U27 was installed for about 5 minutes (mirrors are very bad)
U25 was installed for about 8 minutes (would not let me downshift fast)
U22 was installed for about 2 minutes. Here the Sound was horrible, I had random black bars running across my screen (only happened in LFS) and my sound card said F**K this and I had to re-boot my system to get sound back.
U20 Installed since the day it came out and I am still running it.

I am waiting for U28 or U29 for those mirrors to be fixed. :Kick_Can_

These are all test patches... They are highly likely to contain bugs... It's like you are complaining that water is wet. Stop being a little spoiled princess!

Quote from bLaCk VaMpIrE :

no, gecause you can guess some parts of the text behind. imho leave it as it was.

I think that way you can't read the text and you can't read the menu buttons - it's meant to do both, but it doesn't do either...

Quote from Scawen :

Maybe I should just make all messages vanish, in the ESCAPE menu?

Yes-yes! If you go to the escape menu then you actually do go there for the menu itself. You don't go to the escape menu to read messages.

P.S. The messages vs. menu thing always annoyed me. glad you've taken up to fix it.


EDIT: sry, didn't notice the standing ovation you already got for the "Maybe I should just make all messages vanish, in the ESCAPE menu?"

Last edited by PLAYLIFE, Thu, 26 Oct 2006 14:41.

Question (for information):

The answer is probably "NO", but here goes:

Is it possible to create a host where the track is SO1 (S1) and all (S1 + S2) cars are enabled. S1 licence holders could run S1 cars and S2 licence holders could run all cars...


Possible?

Quote from Tinytacohead :

Is there any way to get the AI cars to pit before they run out of gas?

No. Perhaps in the future patches.

Quote from Tinytacohead :

Also, what about the amount of fuel they carry at the beginning of the race. I'm pretty sure I don't have it set for AI to use my setup, though they always seem to only have a mostly empty tank at race start..

Dunno. Have u tried making the AI cars use your setup, where you have set fuel to max?

Quote from ATC Quicksilver :

Its a risk as people could be put off by it, but those would be the type of impatient people who do those crazy moves and crash people out.

It could be a cool single player mode and if the AI is up to notch...

Quote from Woz :

Oh well, I decided to look at rFactor again as I have not touched since early on.

I downloaded the latest version, installed and started it up. 1 hour after playing with the visual settings and it is still a slide show on the lowest settings. OMG what a pile of crap.

Before people shout its your machine....

I run on a 3000+ AMD64 lappy with 512Mb and 64Mb ATI 9600 pro. This lappy runs the likes of Doom III without issue at good FPS and runs LFS perfect.

Why is rF so demanding. I have DX7 selected and EVERY visual setting at LOW and 800*600*16bit with NO AA or AF and its still a slide show.

It used to run fine with the first point release so what have they done to this piece of crap. Its not like I am well above the minimum requirements?

running at 800x600 here - now things run smooth... Except:

So I'm in a 10 lap race and starting from lap 5 onwards a certain point on an official track drops my FPS to 0.5. When I crash through that part I get again like 30 FPS... now, I'd understand if it was one part of track that did this always - but no! It started from lap 5.illepall

Additionally: @ 1024*860 when I am approaching cars in front of me then the frame rate does not drop. However, when a car from behind passes me I get 1 FPS instantly. When that car disappears from view it is fine again, but when I catch that car up the FPS bombs again... illepall

And what the hell is up with those 2 lap long caution periods. I run 10 minutes usually and when the caution laps start I know I've lost half of my play time...illepall

Quote from RudiTurbo :

Exactly and if there are more than 3 ppl in the top10 from the same country, then the others are not giving pts, but they are keeping other nations away from pts. Only 3 best guys from a Nation bring pts, to give a chance for smaller Nations

I kinda layed down the scoring system to Vic , he made it pretty much exactly as I said, but dunno about HDCP's, I guess they are the same, the 3 fastest guys in the top10 can effect it

Why not consider just the fastest guy from each nation on a given combo?

Quote from alland44 :

I installed the u22 patch, a couple of days ago. Yesterday I tried the F1 on the oval. Ohh boy - When you come close to the wall - The crackles and pops are disgusting. But why did I write it then ?

I have played around with midifiles and soundcards and soundfonts, for a while now. If you use a tool, for editing music, as Cubase ligth - You will experience just the same crackles, when you overload the system. (To many tracks, using big soundfonts, at the same time)

On a smaller system, with a Soundblaster Audigy, using a large piano soundfont - I get 99,0 % of a Chopin piece rigth, untill he really quickly starts hitting the piano. Again these crackles and pops destroys the music.

But in both instances, you can cure "the disease" by turning som buffersizes up and down. Not all systems are the same, especially the soundcards are not. Could it be a solution, to work out a tool which adjusted those buffers and the other thingies, one adjust in a "music system" ? - I recon that there is not the big differences between a music system, and a game sound system - Both have to work hard, and needs to be adjusted some times - Or am I all wrong

Well... a music track is always the same: it will have the exact same sequence in all cases. In LFS you might start braking, crash, add revs, etc. it ican be unpredictable... So it's definitely not exactly the same (mind you, I did not say you said it is exactly the same).

Quote from traxxion :

How can you compare a track name (which it is..?) with the name of a continent?

well... one can also say that "Aston Club" is not a name but the Aston club configuration. It could well be name shortly like that for simplification purposes... Thus, it only seems like a name. There is the grand prix config, the north config, grand touring config, national config etc. It does not necessarily mean it's a name. Instead of calling a config "The Aston circuit configuration for club races" it is simply called "Aston Club"...

Besides, translating names also works differently in different countries. In Latvia they translate "New York"

Quote from traxxion :

Hehe, sorry for no obvious sign of irony/sarcasm in that post Wasn't meant to sound that bad

Although I do think it's wrong For example, imagine translating the name Silverstone into Austrian (Silberstein? :P)

I haven't tried the patch yet but as it looks from the replies above, I won't until the unlocking issue is solved.

Yeah, but whilst Silverstone is a name, Aston North can be considered as not. Can you imagine saying "North-America" in english instead of in your own language, when u talk to a Dutch person

Quote from AndroidXP :

Nobody's complaining about the non-edited ones...

Lookind at your avatar - dude, that's not how LFS looks at all !!

I suspect you've been photoshopping the image sequence...














:haha:

Quote from mrodgers :

I think I say sorry quite a lot. I say sorry for taking someone else out. I say sorry even if it was the other person or it is too close to find fault.

I've t-boned others who spun ahead on the track and have gotten sorry from them. Sorry for what? Sorry because I crashed into you when you spun? Some folks think that there shouldn't be allowed any spins or accidents for some reason. You spin ahead, I tag you, it's my fault, not yours. All you did was spin which is perfectly ok by me. It was up to me as the following driver to avoid you. This point is not concidered very well in public servers.

Well... When I am experienced on a track and spin and if that causes some accident, then I always sorry, because... well... I really see no excuse for spinning when I've done 300 laps on a track...

Also, we are all just humans. When it is a 8 lap race and you have been crashed out once in the start and twice in the first corner, it means 30 minutes of no racing... That does agitate me - and I'm sure a lot of people.

Quote from Adam Sparkes :

when S3 comes out, does that mean i have to pay 4 a new license??

No, you don't have to...

Quote from Gabkicks :

some people say its up to preference on wether rfactor has better graphics than lfs... but if you've seen the 2005f1 mod... you'd have to be a pitiful fanboy to continue say LFS looks better. overall, rfactor has much better graphics. i posted unedited screenshots. http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=211183#post211183.

I'm no pitiful fanboy, but believe me, compared to LFS, rFactor looks really awful on my PC. Races with other cars are quite impossible.

On other news:

PLAYLIFE raced today (alone) on Mount Panorama, Laguna Seca, Elkhart Lake, Brands Hatch and Nordchleife... with the help of rFactor:banana:

Quote from richo :

Jesus you guys can get into a hissy fit over anything,how you enjoy your sim of choice is entirely up to you and no matter how many ways you argue the point you will never change or should you change someones opinion on how they enjoy there simming experience...

For me i use bumper cam (1st person for want of a better word) because it suits me and i cant for the life of me see why i should go on a crusade to CONVERT others to my cause

Here you made good sense...

Quote from richo :

Please fellas can we just enjoy the game and leave measuring our e-penis's to another forum...

...and here you just ruined it all with trying to ridicule everybody who ever had an argument.

Perhaps you should take your own advice and not try to convince (whilst taking cheap shots) everybody to use this thread the way you like it. Please can you just enjoy the game and leave measuring your e-penis to another forum...

"+ Deleting mprs/sprs ingame"

That's in the test patch already isn't it!?

rFactor just got the Shanghai track

Quote from TyresHot :

Hi racers !

First of all i want to give my thanks to Scawen , Eric and Victor.Really thanks for giving this Live for Speed online racing simulator to motor games life.Congrulations.

i am a new racer and i want to buy an online racing simulator.First tried live for speed online racing simulator and i liked too much.Then i tried to TRY () another game named rfactor or something but it messed me up.i succeeded a download of 688 mb hardly then tried to install it but nothing helped me.No one in the technical service also anyone else.the game named rfactor or something cant be installed and i dont expect any racing realism from it.

That experience showed me live for speed online racing simulator is a intelligence game.Very succesfull at every are.live for speed online racing simulator is a very small sized game with its large components.Very Very small issues that easily solved with the next patch are only in live for speed online racing simulator.Now i am at the point of buying this great game in some weeks.My decide is to buy Live for Speed online racing simulator clearly.i will buy it in some weeks when i get the money.

Man, your country is twice as small as mine :P

Hellos

Quote from timkiller :

I have noticed a lot of people say when someone suggests there is more for drifting in the game that it is a race sim and not a drift sim. Maybe the developers should change it into a drift sim. Have only cars like nissan 180sx's, Skyline's andtracks designed specifically for drifting.

Would be fairly popular as there is no actual drift game on the pc that i can find. Could call it live for lack of grip

-1

Pits related:

Option to set "pit windows" like in DTM, where you have to pit between laps a to b and the second time between laps x to z. At least they used to have this system. So there is a predefined laps when you are allowed to pit...

Quote from Joris :

I'm currently a demo racer. I'm staring to get irritated by the general mentality of my fellow demo racers. (not all of them of course)
* Mass destruction in first corner
* Banning just because others accuse
* Calling for restarts when race is in progres

Is this just the demo-way? Does buying a licence ad some dignity to the racing?

Yes!

+ If you really like the Demo, you'll absolutely love S2


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Some months ago I ventured back into demoland... After four races on two servers I had had enough. There is so many guys with no etiquette and no skills - It was just carnage all the time...

Last edited by PLAYLIFE, Fri, 29 Sep 2006 07:03.