Just to add what all previous posters forgot to add to there posts.

Quote from boosterfire :

While we don't even know if there were any talks to get real circuits other than Rockingham in LFS, I doubt there were many, and that was mainly for licensing reasons. Well known places like the Nordschleife hardly need the promotion, so they would see it as potential financial gain, aka make Scavier pay for the track.

Other less known places might want the promotion, though (wink wink Mont Tremblant, Scawen :tilt

Well, I do remember someone or someones saying that one of the reasons the Nordschleife couldn't be added was because the LFS rendering engine couldn't support it (or something like that). The financial issue I think the community would pay back for to be quite honest. There is a topic in the improvement suggestions category with a poll. There is number there of how many people who would be willing to pay for a license with the Nordschleife. I'm not trying to rush things here though Right now it's more important to release the test patch, Scirocco, Rockingham and the new tyre physics.

Edit: Hmm, only 60 people voted for that in the Nordschleife poll though :/

Quote from Amynue :

What would you choose?

I rather want the new tyre physics then the Scirocco so I'm pleased

Edit: Why does this forum never send me to the right page when I click the link D:

Also Scawen, just out of curiosity. Will this new way of handling tracks add the possibility for a Nordschleife or any other type of venue that was impossible before, any time in the future?

Last edited by pärtan, Tue 19 Apr 2011, 12:35.

Quote from E.Reiljans :

wat

Answer:

Quote from kruuvi :

It better not be released on the next week, we got Portal2

Quote from vistaman :

Who cares about Portal. LFS is going to be the racing game of the year if S3 is going to be released THIS YEAR!

Really nice You need to mount the pedals the right way though

Quote from Furiously-Fast :

Scawen said they won't be earlier in this thread.

And what's up with the super-bloom? :sour:

I like bloom :<

One thing that you could maybe fix is the way the chaulk objects flicker in certain camera angles. I don't know what's causing it but maybe moving the objects up slightly in the air would fix it?

Also



Will these routes be available?

Last edited by pärtan, Sat 16 Apr 2011, 17:39.

Quote from E.Reiljans :

*cough*

Now those would be some bunnys in my way that I wouldn't run over

The development of LFS is like a roller coaster. There is a long and slow way up, but once you reach the top, it's just awesome from that point forward. Nice to have some progress reports. Really looking forward to this open track thing, as well as more objects. And no more air travel, just pure destruction with the new barriers > Will all the routes that got you spectated before be availble? Such as the extensional U-turn heading by the mansion on one of the beaches of Fern Bay?

Quote from BOSCHO :

Yes i tried it. the G27 is more comfortable for long races. Yes the force on the thrustmaster one is more big but i only use about 60% of it.

The Thrustmaster allows for a wider range of setting up I suppose. I really like the 1080 deg rotation aspect. A thing I like about the G25/G27 is that instead of trying to solve the reversed pedal mounting thing with some fancy solution, they simply made it easy to disassemble and collect the goodies inside to mount the way you like it. A negative thing about the Thrustmaster is that it doesn't include an H-pattern shifter which is crucial for me. However, I don't really care because I'm perfectly happy with the G25 despite of the funny noises it makes.

What Sunsai said in his 6 year bump got me thinking. Would it be hard to give each AI driver an unique, randomized seed that affects all the aspects of the driving yet making it follow the basic driving structure? Maybe if you race an AI which style you like, you could save that seed number and input it manually for further racing with the same AI "driver". Could be interesting maybe? You could also share these numbers with your friends so they can face the same AI

Quote from John5200 :

There are two layers of track. One that you can actually see and on the other one all the physic calculation are made. On the layer you can see, they can´t make a lot of details but on the one on that the physics get calculated they can have much much more details. (Why they don´t just raise the physic layer up to match the other one because it doesn´t matter on that place, I don´t know).

Hope that makes sense and is correct^^^^

I think Scawen said that somewhere.

Mh, and that layer in which the physics are calculated is what I meant by bounding box.

20.9

I just downloaded the game myself to try it. I have to say it was exactly like I expected it to. Apart from the fact that the steering and shifting (not the pedals) had a lag of 0.4 sec I can't say that I felt like I was driving the car. It's got the same over all feeling as Shift 1. And then to make me laugh abit I get this "American drift guy" telling me "That was awesome!" when I just drove around slamming the brakes, steering left-right, testing the physics without actually racing. It's a game for people who can't drive, to think that they can drive. Best of all: I now know that everything the developers claimed is one big fat lie. "Shift 2 will be more sim then any sim out there." and "Shift 2 will have the most advanced physics engine ever released in a racing game." I'm just flushing it all down the toilet. I can also say that pirating Shift 2 didn't even close to repay the money I burnt on Shift 1. If the devs wouldn't try to buy sim racing market, I wouldn't hate the way I am. Haters gonna hate.

Quote from Bose321 :

The sounds are also awesome. That car sounds like a tractor, or is that your wheel?

Obviously his wheel :P

Quote from Matrixi :

The most awesome FFB ever, LFS and iRacing have nothing on this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvyo-qzvI3c

If it was this way when the game is released, I would lol :P

Or was it released already? in that case pirate time

Quote from Flame CZE :

One thing I am still thinking about is - the camera movement in the cockpit view. They say it's realistic, because that's how the camera on the driver's helmet moves. But it actually represents your head movement without the movement of your eyes. Eyes try to stay focused on one object / part of the view and keep looking at it, so you don't see that shaking when you try to focus on an object and shake your head.

Am I right or am I talking bulls**t?

You're absolutely right. If I focus on something, I have to shake my head 50 deg in all directions like mad in order to get the same shake effect that they have in there game.

Quote from Fordman :

"We have the most advanced physics system ever released in a racing game"
Hmm have they tried and tested LFS?
Game or Simulator

Interesting point. They probably never tried LFS indeed.

Quote from Fordman :

"Getting Grass on the tyre is dynamic and in Real-Time, this is being measured 360x per second"
Orly

It's called an unoptimized program Getting grass on the tyre isn't essential enough to require 360 updates per second. No idea who got that idea or under the influence of what.

Quote from Fordman :

Lets just hope that they have balls, I mean product to back this up?

Doubt it :P

Last edited by pärtan, Tue 29 Mar 2011, 16:07.

Quote from jibber :

Some early impressions from GTplanet

Just as I suspected then.

There are a couple of problems with what the devs of Shift 2 are trying to achieve. The biggest problem is that they have an unrealistic idea of how a sim would sell out. The majority of the market can't drive for ****. The market for the all out realistic sim racers is relatively small. Another problem is that instead of doing the best they possibly can on one concept / market, they try to compromise between them to gain as many buyers as they possibly can. They're basically forcing the concept of sim racing to go hand in hand with the concept of arcade racing which obviously will never ever happen. It's obvious what kind of effect this got on the community too. Many of my friends who doesn't know that much about cars are continuously defending Shift 2 with arguments such as "They get help by proffessional racers." or "They say that it will be more sim then any sim out there."

In order to make a good sim, the main priority can't be the commercial interest. Making a sim racer isn't anywhere near as profitable as making an arcade racer. As long as fat profit is the goal, A good sim can not be done, period.

Quote from PoVo :

Sony Ericsson Xperia 8 (Sexperia 8 or SEX8)

That here too.

Quote from Tomba(FIN) :

First 20secs was good but then it became a bit boring, I don't think that kind of music fits the theme (drifting).

You think it became boring when they did a 4 car tandem? I have to disagree :P

I'm excited to pirate this game. So curious weather they all lie again like they did in Shift 1. I will never pay for it however, if Shift 2 is good then pirating it is enough for them to repay me for the money I blew on Shift 1. I couldn't even return it to the store. Worthless game. All thought like I said, I'm curious to see what they cooked up this time.

I only use one screen when playing though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UPqjAN3-C8

Quote from Stefani24 :

You actually just said that the newest interiors are too old?
Get out of your closet.

I also found that amusing D: XRT got a good looking interior. The cars that needs fixing up are like the RB4, FXO, UF

Quote from Cornys :

I've always loved the longer road courses. I don't think that the track needs to be anything like a real life track, but rather just something longer than any other track currently on LFS. (5 min lap times in FXO per say)

Yea I agree. You could take a track about the legnth of AS5 but maybe half the width and with more corners. You could end up having a track that takes 5 minutes to complete with the XRT/FXO/RB4.