The engine doesn't do anything unless you have the materials to back it up. While this shows some nice real time shadows, that's pretty much the extent of it. But when LFS gets the update, all the tracks will have updated materials.

Looks very nice! The roads look photorealistic, sometimes even better than the real photo counterpart. The thing that gives away which photo is real and not is the grass, but it looks great too.

Quote from michal 1279 :

I would prefer this kind of track expansion (yellow lines):

There is part of track going to nowhere near club layout, so why not to expand it a bit...

I'm digging this idea I like the first one more than the bridge tho, and its nearly there too. The opening on the other side is kinda there too.

Yay, good job guys!

https://www.lfs.net/static/screenshots/bl_03_specular.jpg

I love this image particularly The specular effets look amazing!

Nah I dunno tbh. Anything build with the concrete slabs atm is quite horrendous to drive on because the sharp edges, clipping textures and overall low level of realism. Making more building blocks to drive on doesn't sound like a good idea to me. If they are gonna make a track editor they better make a terrain editor with bezier curved roads as seen in for example Arma, Crysis or BeamNG.

Quote from AfterAll14 :

As for cars feeling. For sure they all have different physics. But they all FEEL boring and same. So I have 0 interest to continue playing with them.

The cars actually do have the same physics, because it's a consistent simulator. But every single parameter is different. Also your criticism doesn't make sense because LFS have an objectively high variety in the few cars available. Maybe you should be more specific in what aspect you feel the cars are too similar in.

I guess what you're trying to say is that they all feel like cars, which is the whole point of the game.

-1
KY Ring
Rockingham
Mini oval on FE

What LFS don't have is a twisty mountain road. I like that idea better right now to keep the driving nice and varied.

Quote from Mikus1212 :

About locking tyres... Throttle blip is not going to help with locking rear in cars

He's talking about the sudden change in tyre speed when you dump the clutch after a downshift. When the RPM is low the flywheel will jolt the fast moving tires as the RPM and wheel speed come to a match, which can cause over-steer in a corner.

If you blip the throttle and match the RPM to the wheel speed before you dump the clutch this won't happen.

tweak is not officially supported by LFS. In other words it's up to the tweak makers to make it work. And this is the wrong site for these questions.

Last edited by pärtan, Tue 24 Jul 2018, 21:23.

I always blip it manually (even on mouse lol)
But I agree, why not.

Quote from Scawen :

Our plan is to do a small presentation in August. We want to write a little about the shadows and lighting and do some high resolution shots to illustrate.

Anyway, to thank you for being so patient, here's another medium resolution Westhill shot from a different angle in that same weather.

Again 1600x900 at this camera position:
/cp -8104131 21192096 392929 3623 300 0.0 40.0

These roads look bloody amazing!

Why not. As long as it doesn't bloat the suspension menu too much. A single damper curve slider should be enough.

Quote from nacim :

Am I seeing reflections with a fresnel effect on this post?

I don't think you see any reflections what so ever. It's just lit in a way where the sides are a bit brighter. Or it's in the texture. But hey at least we got fresnel on the cars, where it really counts

Hope yall like it Thanks Tofu[•]Stevie for tandem

There is a reason why no one reads the car thread lol. Because car suggestions are uninteresting and won't happen for a long while

Quote from THE WIZARD DK :

if good or no good. i have no idea. find the pack. it has around 6-7000 setups in it. cheers minibump

What the!? 6-7000 setups jesus christ lol. That's probably enough setups to cover every possible setup you can make with the setup editor.

Quote from Skytrill :

Found it for you mate: https://www.lfs.net/forum/post/1919640#post1919640

To me LFS feels like the best racing game ever due to the way the dynamism of the car is produced.. not necessarily the way every car behaves but I hope the next physics patch is gonna make it behave closer to reality. Realistic setups limitations would be great too.

And then I can confirm that it's a case of misinterpretation of what Scawen meant. With this message he didn't mean the units are inaccurate. He meant that the Scirocco has to run on a weird setup versous what it runs on IRL to make it feel the right way. And thus they found the flaws in the tire physics not in the units.

Last edited by pärtan, Thu 19 Jul 2018, 04:54.

Well I do remember first time spawning in the pits of blackwood back in 2008, trying to put the car in gear. I think it was the XFG. I got recommended by a friend who was also into drifting. And later, a few youtube videos made me buy S2 mainly "Step into S2"

https://youtu.be/xE3fhOfeZ2o

Quote from Racon :

Easy tiger, IIRC = If I remember correctly, and there's no insult intended I think it came from the man himself, in answer to something here on the forum.

Well I guess you might remember correctly, if it was literally 12 years ago or if you misinterpreted the message. Because I have a very hard time believing this for a few reasons.
1. Keeping the units consistent is not a challenge. Especially not for a LFS developer.
2. People would have noticed if the units didn't correspond with each other.
3. Scawen wouldn't obsess over ultra realistic tyre physics if the units weren't consistent, that would make the work on the tire physics redundant.

Sorry didn't mean to come off offensive or nothing but I just don't buy this lol

a rear wheel drive UF rival
- 75hp
- 5 link Live axle rear
- Mac-pherson front
- 950kg body

race version
- 210hp 2.0 N/A i4
- 850kg body

Body style inspired by
Lada VAZ
Toyota Corolla KE70
Datsun Bluebird 510

Quote from Racon :

IIRC, The actual values used are not 1:1 with reality - you can't just get a real car setup, plug in the right numbers and have the LFS car setup exactly the same as the real car. Everything is correct relative to everything else, but not absolutely correct.

Ie, 9 Ns/mm of damping does not mean that LFS is simulating 9 Ns/mm on that component, only that it is more than if you had set it to 8 and less than if you had set it to 10.

Um are you sure about that? Where have you heard this? I'm fairly confident the devs took their time to make sure the units are accurate. You think they aren't capable of that? Cus you know they only made the most realistic car game ever and while it's perfect they are still perfecting the authenticy of the tires. It's a pretty bold statement to say that they essentially eyeballed the units..

Let me guess, this info is from someone who measured up the ride height versus the weight of the car and said "nope". Well then they don't know what they're doing and forgot to take control arm leverage into account.

BTW: If everything is correct relative to everything else, then everything is simply correct lol

Quote from Flotch :

The force is displayed in LFS as kN/m (kiloNewton per meter).
K is pounds per inch, no ?

no K stands for kg/mm. 10K spring means 10kg/mm which translates to 100 n/mm in LFS (roughly)

Last edited by pärtan, Wed 18 Jul 2018, 14:03.

Live for Speed
+ Amazing physics
+ Nice online experience, server based which is a proven concept in gaming history.
+ Easy to use, no hassle
+ Great engine sound generator
+ Very light on PC resources
+ Lack of vehicle mods (I consider this to be a positive things, as car mods often clutter things up and make for an experience with inconsistent quality and authenticity)
+ Autocross editor
+ Personal skins (I like that you can put that little bit of personal touch to your car)
- No map mods (I like map mods)
- Somewhat outdated graphics
- Slow development (but I still love it <3)

Assetto Corsa
+ Great Physics (Not as good as LFS tho)
+ Map modding support for variety. It kinda hurts the online experience tho.
+/- Car modding support (Car mods are only worth while if they are perfect imo, and it makes the online experience suffer)
- Arrogant developers

BeamNG (arguably not a sim racer)
+ Sweet looking maps with very detailed roads.
+ Tire physics are better than you would expect
+ Perfect vehicle damage
- No multiplayer support
- Resource heavy
+ Modding support (I like the modding scene in beamNG because it's more difficult to make mods, and thus people put more effort into it)

That's a pretty sweet looking 300zx skin u got there

Quote from Evolution_R :

Is this some kind of joke? You call this one of the best drifting movie and it is with a FRONT wheel drive car?

My FXO throws down pretty good
Disclaimer: I mainly drive XRT lol


Sorry about the flickering >.< had to change music due to copyright mute and didnt save the project. And the frame rates don't match. Don't watch if you're epileptic lol

Last edited by pärtan, Mon 16 Jul 2018, 19:06.

Quote from Skytrill :

Dude chill out, we're just saying that for us, it works fine as it is. I never said it was a bad idea either so don't misquote me. I just toke the time to give you my personal setting to help you out. Saying we like playing with rocks instead of toys is hypocrisy. It's more like we can swim as it is, and some wants a buoy and that's fine.

When I think about it, if you are driving the F08 or the BF1, than I would agree 100% that WE do need a more stabilized controller for a gamepad session! I've always had more fun with lower powered cars so for me the stabilization isn't an issue. Imagine racing these beast irl with a gamepad, no one could deny that you need filters to smooth things up.


Peace.

Ah well in that case sorry, I misinterpreted.

Anyway, steering aids isn't necessarily to be considered a "buoy". Force feedback is a very prominent steering aid which is present in any real car as well as for wheel users. A lack of stabilization, while being more difficult sure, is like driving a car with no caster. It's not something I wanna do, regardless if it's an extra challenge or not. But I feel that the gamepad has potential to be very *enjoyable* not *easy* with a little bit of tug to it.

Again, sorry if i came off grumpy. To me it sounded like everyone just shut the idea straight down.