I dont really need to respond in-game. I just need to hear the "ding dong" of when someone logs on or sends me a message

who usually decides who is at fault in real racing? its like a body of people i cant remember the name of though theres probably lots of them for each type of racing, usually you get some drivers fighting or arguing after an incident but i dont think they decide who was at fault do they? i would think that both drivers would have their own views on what happened and only a lot of people who have no bias can really decide those things. and are some just said to be a racing incident and noone is actually "to blame"?

or maybe i just watched too much touring cars

if you mean internet slang, often using in gaming, then here is wiki's page.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_slang

as for racing sim specific slang, im too fresh under the collar to know that much. however...

WR = world record
PB = personal best
LFSW = LFS world, the website, that should definately be in your favourites. See link http://www.lfsworld.net/
XFR = XF GTR, those are all pretty much self explanitory same as the tracks (eg BL= blackwood) youll learn those pretty quick.

firstly, does running in windowed mode reduce FPS? I almost always run my games in full screen because of this. I also like to have the graphics go up to the edge of my monitor to get rid of the border. but...

i like to use MSN Messenger but I find when I have LFS in full screen mode I cant hear or see any messages.

is there a way to force LFS to allow background to show through, so when I see someone log on and the window on the task bar (above the clock) pops up, itll appear in the game for a split second?

Then i will know if someone has logged on, or sent me a message and i can shift F4...

Stupid request i know but my friends think im ignoring them when im playing.

maybe one day there will be weather effects that might give it a bit more of an edge?

thats excellent hehe

im sure if you went down the local breakers yard you could get a gearstick cover (one of those plastic leathery things) and put it over the top??

DRT isnt that clear of this stuff either, my mate got banned off there so we set up our own server only to find a DRT guy come on our server and ask players to join their server. That was kinda funny, i didnt say anything though, well i have now

i think its meant to be the lack of way of telling who is a lap behind you or is fighting you for position thats all

Live for speed: or get banned trying.

more suitable.

there needs to be some way to mark the server where an admin picks the start grid because im not sure that would go so well on public servers where admins tend to do what they personally want not what everyone wants. Something in the server list.

is it possible to make the game dump .bmp files into a folder using print screen key?

i played a game that let you do that. you just go to the folder and there are a tonne of .bmp files there for you to look at, or do a slideshow or something.

i dont know how the game used to dump the files into a folder though. (didnt need to paste into a paint program).

aye but a car wheel + pedals is a human interface just like a keyboard, in a way you are sitting up straight staring at a windscreen. its not that far off.

well on pedals you can hold the brake at half pressure...

or 1/4 pressure. or just lightly rest your foot on it for as long as you want. its analogue so there is more control from it, keys are like digital on/off switch. with pedals youre using your feet, which is never easy, but you learn hand/eye/foot coordination eventually. being a driver i already use my feet on pedals so using my handss to accel / brake was never confortable in the first place.

at first i was slower with the wheel as i got used to it. but now i am beating my PB and also being way more consistent than I used to. for example. i would sometimes do a 1:54 and regularly do 2:00 times on my joypad. now i can get a 1:54 and regularly do 1:56 laptimes. so it is faster overall. now i can do back to back attempts at PBs. but i was using a joypad which was twitchy as hell.

oh yeah drifting is like 10x harder, thats for sure, but it sure is a good excercise workout. i heard if you turn off feedback and reduce the degrees you wheel turns its ok but i havent tried it.

just trust in the fact that in a real car is there isnt an A and Z key.

it would be nice when you join a server if your car started out in the back of your very own skinned truck which is parked behind the pits.

i didnt play it myself but was motor city online like that, i just heard of the game after they had already binned the project for lack of interest, and it sounded itneresting.

i got the same thing with my DFP, i installed the profiler but i get that same shifting of the wheel to the side.

cant find any links to a DFP center fix?

is it a LFS thing?

Quote from Gunn :

I prefer no restarts at all, but I'm not everybody. Scawen's earlier post is a good solution for managed servers.

me too,

also admins tend to restart because they crashed out or two of their team crashed out, but if others crash they wont.

i remember BTCC a while back with the audi 4WD vs the others and in the wet the 4WD had a significant advantage.

Quote from CasseBent :

the AI treats me with respect, always.
Anyway, if they bump you off, you're going too slow, ie. braking too soon for instance. Yes they do swerve a bit, but hey, so do I. The AI has taught me some stuff, but mostly racing with a friend was what made me better. 2 racers, just trying to go faster and faster, it's really not as boring as it sounds. Some voice coms to hear the other guy cry when I beat his PB, it's superb. Good luck.

but there is only 1 way to learn how to react to the fastest guys on the net and thats to be out there and get lapped in the thick of it but everyone else is too fast with the banning that it probably makes it harder for the people who really do want to learn and try their best to be clean and follow flag rules.

how about some kind of Warning system for admins.

"Player has received first warning!!! next incident will result in a ban!!!"

or the Sin Bin thing, where players can be put in a quarantine but can still type, i dont know.

Quote from Tweaker :

Host your own server then!!! Private or Public :zombie:

we did after this happened because it was that or back to the demo. except im not a good driver so how is he going to learn to react. how do you learn to make the first corner with 2 cars illepall

Quote from CasseBent :

Long story short: learn to drive before taking your lack of skill out on people that race to win. Oh and don't whine about it afterwards o/

whining is the only thing someone can do if they get banned off of the only rally x server in the list.

i tried to show him offline but the AI just rams you off the road, it doesnt teach you how to react to being lapped.... it doesnt teach you how to race online.

Quote from Tweaker :

I honestly hope it is your last. Because threads like these mean absolute SQUAT. You have to realize that people only see threads like these as an opportunity to tell the person in 'DIRE NEED OF ATTENTION' that stuff like this happens no matter what game you play online, and you need to face it, and not keep creating threads. Because they DON'T help in making noobies accepted more on specific servers.

As far as I know, there are tons of servers that have no problems at all with beginners. Everyone needs to stick around to learn. But if an admin decides you need to get out of their server, FINE, but don't complain about it thinking you will get flowers and chocolates for being heroic for all your fellow beginner drivers. It happens in all kinds of games richy. People will ban/kick you for having a crappy score, for swearing, or for nothing at all, some admins just do it. Which is one step in this concept of online gaming I speak of, which you clearly don't understand.

People will let you race on the server all the time, all this banning and kicking is no coincidence. If any beginner drivers are causing problems online such as crashing people in turns, causing accidents, going to slow and getting in people's way, being annoying or stubborn, or just all of the above, you will definitely be punted out of the server. So if you really aren't ready for online racing, you could practice offline possibly, get your skills up.

I can speak for the Team 400 server as being pretty fair in most cases, and if there were any issues with some drivers on their server, they will kick/ban them. Tough!

And then people will come post about it. Tough!

If you dont want to read about it how about admins make a point of not doing it, so the threads dont happen, you can tell me this Tweak, but you cant tell every single newbie this can you? if you want to stop these threads, telling people after they posted them is not the way. how about some rules for admins, like there is for drivers on the road.

yes this is online gaming, and you get bad admins, thanks for explaining that one.

yeah i learnt my lesson before, i went about it the wrong way that i know now. but i will continue to make these threads because new guys are treated like crap and until they arnt these threads will still happen. i havent posted about servers i havent had issues with, only the so-called servers that hold the "good racers" who aparantly are fast but treat new people like crap. if an admin wants to do whatever they want in their domain they should expect the flak from it too, just like the users of that server get the flak from them.

why should a player walk away banned for not being fast enough or good enough, and the admin sit there on the server acting cocky with his mates laughing at the fact that another newbie just got banned, har har. no.

this time i got the replay, this time i didnt get angry. and this time i made a point.

Quote from B2B@300 :

Welcome to the world of competitive simultated racing where just as in real life the range of drivers is from young hot guns with fiery tempers to the old cool hands who patiently await their next move if it be this race or the next and nothing ever seems to fluster them

I've seen drivers in real life come to blows on the side of the track, it happens its a adrenalin filled competitive sport and although alot see this as just a game, some take it very seriously .

Alot of people come on here and winge about being banned too quickly and admins being harsh, well thats true, but thats because not every server in the list is good for new guys, LFS doesn't have an auto-grading system so you have to find racers with similar level to yourself.

While I'm all for helping new guys, and those that know me will know this is true, I think you also have to stop and consider where the fast racer is coming from too. I don't know this for sure as I haven't talked with Bawbag recently (we live on the opposite sides of the world ) but from reading what he has to say, they had setup a server for the purpose of doing some practise for an upcoming league event and most likely just left it open for other similar level drivers to come along and practise for that event as well... you just happened to drop in and start racing with them when you were clearly out of your league, so probably got banned just as much for that as anything else because their interest is in similar level drivers not drivers that are way off the pace don't take it personally, I'm sure Bawbag doesn't have a vandetta against you, go onto another server get better at LFS then come back at a later stage and get your revenge by beating Bawbag

When you enter a server try and get a feel for the atmosphere there and act accordingly, hey I've been arround for quite some time in LFS but there is still car track combos where I will not just jump in with other drivers who are near WR pace and ruin it for them, I'll go find the same combo with more average drivers or goto an empty server and set up that combo and do some practise first, then return when I at least know the proper lines for that track and are a little closer to the pace for the level of driver on that server. If I do race on a server where I'm not fairly confident, I'll deliberately get out of the way of everyone before turn1 and then try and catch the field if it looks like I'm going to be lapped I'd probably pit if I wasn't 100% confident I could let them through cleanly, as I'm still learning and not there to race competitively.

Also I just looked at the replay your friend was having alot of trouble just getting around the track (was loosing control an average of 3 - 4 times a lap) so was always a reciepe for disastor, one of the first things to learn is to re-enter a track cleanly when you have had an off... my guess is he is not even confident with mirrors, the map in top right hand corner and the look buttons, so you would have been much better off finding an empty server to practise with your mate first before bringing him onto a server with high level drivers. Just my 2cents

P.s. I would have the above opinions regardless of wether Bawbag was a teammate or not.

well is there some way to mark your server to say NO new people allowed? because its unfair to just ban someone off of the only rallyx server in the list. just because you think youre all too good to be practicing with new guys doesnt mean they deserve a ban. how about an explaination before u ban them? i think you are sticking up for him because hes your team mate, definately.

edit: i watched a replay of league racing, not rally cross i must admit, but on the track people got lapped too, being lapped is a part of motorsport, i dont think in formula 1 people get banned for starting out and not braking records.

Last edited by richy, Sun 5 Mar 2006, 12:01.

congratulations.