ok I figured Tiscali had a reputation for a reason I might just have to jump ship after all Dan

So my question now is who would be a good UK ISP (I could go SDSL (bussiness) but its still a little pricy) I am currrently on an 8Mb "max dsl" service and actually connect around 4Mb down and 500K up.

Any ideas?

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Quote :

Dear Customer

It's been a busy time at Nildram since Tiscali acquired us on 13 September and we know you may have questions about what it means to you.

We would like to take the opportunity to reassure you that as a Nildram customer this means no change to the services and support you receive at present. In fact Tiscali are proposing to include the Stoke Mandeville Support Centre in their plans for supporting all of Tiscali's business customers.

Going forward our focus will remain on providing business-strength broadband and communications services to our discerning consumers and small and medium sized business customers, as well as to our reseller partners. We will continue to offer the same high quality 24/7 technical support that you have been accustomed to.

We're delighted at the enthusiasm and encouragement we have received from Tiscali. Being part of Tiscali is great news for Nildram. With over 1.9 million broadband customers and an unbundled local loop ("LLU") network covering over 800 BT exchanges, with another 200 in the pipeline, we have access to additional infrastructure and expertise to help us expand and improve our services. In addition, Tiscali's range of internet and entertainment services for the consumer market, new services recently launched for the SME market and wholesale channel portfolio, offer us the opportunity to look at further developing the service we can offer you in future.

As we enter this exciting next phase, I would like to thank you for your support over the last 12 years and assure you that we will continue to keep you updated on any developments.

Anyone here already use Tiscali ? is it anygood?
or anyone here work for an ISP I am wondering what this will really mean for me?

Ive heard of Tiscali using trafic shaping ect Im wondering if anything will change, I only hope I dont have to go through the caffuffle of changing.

Or am I worried about nothing?

any thoughts?

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Hi Rob to answer your original question I think you were probably in the right, it does depends on how much you "let off". But I think most would agree that its the job ot the following driver to pass in a safe way and most experianced drivers will be ready to back off through a chicain, unless they're absolutly sure of who is infront and how they will react.
Of course, Its generally people who run the same combos time and time again who populate the RR servers (IMO) so they are usually running at near WR pace, know each other and will be more bunched up

Great news on getting such a cheap wheel, but for the amount you payed I dont imagine it will be very well constructed and I hope it lasts ok, my tip would be use it very gently

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The stats part of the site is looking really cool WD Sam & others

Like Teemu I too don't quite understand how the numbers add up, like how the player "rank" scores are calculated, does it take into account things like number of races and poduims or wins, maybe yellow flag or completed races info too?

I understand if its a secret formula

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Yes I agree buy S2, its not true that theres no good racing, there is, just sometimes you need to search for it

with the licence you can also set other players as buddys when you find players of similar experiance add them, and soon you will see where the races are + you get all the detailed stats then LFSworld counts

S2 is a big step up from demo and with a good FF wheel (like the dfp) will keep you hooked for ages

Also remember S2 is still tagged alpha but with the licence you get every future S2 patch when its released and sometimes get to test pre official release patches, all for free once you get your licence
Im sure theres more go on get S2, go on

Edit : dont forget you can get a funky forum avatar too
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Last edited by SparkyDave, Sat 3 Nov 2007, 23:24.

This "yellow flag bug" is not any fault of the CTRA but lies within LFS itself, and I wouldn't quite call it a bug, its just something that happens. Also remember the yellow flag count in CTRA is only a guide and everyone knows it can be way off

So don't worry too much about it just try to enjoy the races

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Quote from BurnOut69 :

sad to see that we are not the only team that get our strategy completely trashed for GT1s...this team that costed you 10 seconds and 2nd place costed us a hard crash and an unplanned pits (thats +40s).

As a side note, and considering all that happened in the opening two races, I think cP should be warned with more severe consequences if they keep driving like that.

What worries me more is not the fact that they punted several GT2 (and thats rather worrying!), it is that some of their drivers DO think GT2 cars have to brake to let them pass!

How can someone race competitively if they dont even know the rules??

Great report

Even tho we may have lost out on 2nd place I was driving when we we collided with the team 11 cP car, and I know DaveWS and most of their drivers, I believe this was an unovoidable racing accident, not on purpose and therefore see no reason for a warning regarding the incident with our car, they have already been penalised 30s for it, and explained what happened perfectly.

Personally I thought the GT1 cars that passed me (all of them ) were very respectfull of the rules and drove with skill and patience on a challinging and demanding circuit.

Well done everyone. and big thanks to the MOE staff and admins who spent their time and effort also.

SD.

Last edited by SparkyDave, Mon 29 Oct 2007, 09:33.

Stang what combo (car & track) are you interested in?

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Quote from PaulC2K :

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Im certanly not saying I couldn't care less, Im very interested in the outcome, however I don't see apealing about being penalised for chatting when we did not, quite the same as actually chatting and appealing that its not against the rules or we didn't know or that others got away without penalty.

I do not know about the "westhill incident" and cannot comment.

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Quote from mrodgers :

The Profiler sucks. I've lost FF several times in the middle of a race from using the profiler. Once was a league race, the public ones didn't matter much.

Is it absolutely necessary to use the profiler with the DFP or G25? Or can you get away with just using the windows gaming options?

Yes I didn't say I used it

And yes I am sure you can use all logitech wheels without using the profiler its only the drivers that you need (not sure about vista)

I even use the G25 without the shifter attached (or connected) for ss or gtr races.

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Ruling by Admin: Protest leading to penalty

Car #11 made contact with our car(#23) lap 155 at the hairpin, this caused our car to spin into the wall and then had to wait to reverse.

clip provided.

http://www.mediafire.com/?1mynm9bmqne

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Last edited by Hoellsen, Sat 27 Oct 2007, 17:52. Reason : Verdict

Quote from PaulC2K :

"PS it seems some teams challange admin decisions and rules IMO rules are rules and admins are admins, ignore them at your peril."
Dave, correct me if im wrong here, as it was you that brought this to everyones attention first.
team(16)poisti viestien esta +reply (@36mins)
If rules are rules, why isnt team #16 mentioned in that list of people penalised?? Why is it okay for them to break rules and gain places from it!? 'Ignore them at your peril' im guessing thats not aimed at Hoellsen, pitty, it should be, he's the only one ignoring rules.

Paul, our team was accused in post 1 of chatting during the qual, so I went through the replay(to confirm), and to save the admins here time I thought I would share my findings, rightly or wrongly teams have now been penalised by the moe staff, I am happy to leave it there.
Personally I think in league events IMO chatting during qual is just bad etiquitte, and can be off-putting for others.

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Quote from Jonesy_ :

Sorry, but the blocking of messages is very much needed for those who doesnt have that much up to date computer.

It reduces the join lag signicantly, making it almost driveable for me.

Almost driveable ?? maybe you should not be putting others at risk?

if you choose to block messages then its not the admins or leagues fault you miss admin warnings.

when driving (not spectating) messages on or off makes no difference to lag.

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PS it seems some teams challange admin decisions and rules IMO rules are rules and admins are admins, ignore them at your peril.

or just use the logitech profiler?

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please check replay as T7R are team 23 not 24 and Im pretty sure we didnt chat.
EDIT infact I justwent through tonights replay
team(27) Bye (@38mins to go)
team(16)poisti viestien esta +reply (@36mins)
team (26) Shark join (@35mins)
then admin warning any next chat = penalty
team (04) :P (@26mins)
team(24) goodrace X2 (@22mins)
team(21 blueflag X2 (16mins)
team(03) :-( (@5mins)
team(32) Hello (@3 mins)

I hope I didnt miss anything, but we didnt deserve this penalty.


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Last edited by SparkyDave, Fri 26 Oct 2007, 20:28.

Hi MijnWraak

Is your prob low FPS whilst multitasking, or is it stuttering only when LFS looses focus, and does this happen when you minimise LFS? or only with it windowed or maximise?

Did you possably give LFS higher CPU priority?
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Its worth noting that the F11 (live), menu settings ,are reset when you pit (shiftP-not pitstop).The lower F12 (apply at pitstop (psi, camber ect)) settings, actually change the setup and do not reset when you telepit, but instead are saved as permanant changes to the set, IIRC you have to make pitstop before telepitting to achieve the above results.

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Quote from Becky Rose :

What is an unreliable situation? Well, firstly that's a phrase I just made up

Hey! thats US,one of the U phrases in my "sparkydaves handy phrasebook" lol

along with UI untracable interference, UAC unusual atmospheric conditions and UD unobtainable data sometimes referred to as unrecoverable data.

hehe

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PS sorry for the thread hyjack

Quote from dropin_biking :

+1 for scipy being a dick...
~Bryan~

Quote from MikeB :

Scipy, i don't like your attitude.

come on guys, post something usefull.
Scipy has made good posts with a valid argument and Ive been enjoying this thread up till now, everyones got an opinion, and I don't think it matters if its right or wrong as long as it makes for a good disscusion.
Scipy is obviously intelligent and knows about the things he's saying, so just because he adds some attitude dosn't make his points less valid.

The wiki link is more about trucks using engine compression braking when going down steep hills, this is not quite the same as a racing vehicle braking near or on the grip limit, but great reading none the less.
Maybe its just somthing that some people will do and others wont like trailbraking

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Quote from Racer X NZ :

The secret with being fast is corner speed so practice........

I have to say I disagree and its not secret that slow in, fast out is a good way to approach most turns.

I am very often braking earlyer and apexing slower than others, being smooth is also important

Yellow flags as a result of a blue flag is a difficult one, as some drivers will stop or throw their car off track so as to not upset the leaders, but as others here have said, they should be able to drive around backmarkers without requiring the backmarkers to slow or even move off their line, but a very slight lift and an indicator signal or running wide at an appropriate place goes a long way and is IMO sporting.

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Welcome back KeMoT

Congratulations, I too am a sucker for a happy ending

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were you using the GT2 cars perhaps?

restricted cars seem to pull more yellows, and aston is the worst track for it, some configs you get 1 for exiting the pits and another 2 at different parts of the track, I think I got alot with the UF1 also

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@You guys that are not running any antivirus sw
I assume you are using a decent firewall?

@ Test Driver Thanks I didnt know that admin accounts were any more vunrable and that "lesser users" accounts were less so.

Isint the virus thing just about not opening e-mails and attachments, or running any exe's from pron websites?

HW firewall ftw

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in real life down shifting too fast without the proper rev matching will break your clutch and or parts in your gearbox, IMO it can be done if its done correctly and does help (at least in FWD) with stopping the front wheels locking (especially in low grip conditions as scipy said above) and can help (with blips) to keep the turbo spooling, not worth the mechanical risks unless your racing tho.

In LFS it seems to help alot more and you dont need to be as precise with the gas and suffer virtually no damage (depending on car) so people exploit it to gain time.

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@Scipy, regarding the rant above you know in practice things dont always match therotical equasions ect, and in some vehicles and situations due to suspension movements under braking additional engine braking can have a positive effect even if its only psychological. So I guess I think your Dad could be right

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Hey Lloyd,

Do you lose connection at other times or only when you play this sim?

Its worth checking your cables from the phone point to the modem and then to the PC, do you use any other USB devices? wheel or pad KB, mouse ect? some gamepads can mess up things sometimes.

try to limit the amount of programs runnig in the background even MSN and media player can have an effect online, press ctrl-alt & Delete together and the taskmanager should come up then you can click the process tab and see whats runnning,

P2P is things like Kazzaa and Limewire music(and other files) sharing programs, AOL are probably using content filtering and could be slowing or even resetting your con form time to tme.

Ping times are shown ingame in the multiplayer connection list see pic below, what XXms times are you getting when you display the server list?

Is the modem in your house/flat/castle connected to the master BT point? or is it connected to a secondary point? (the master is the first box the phone cable from the pole/ground connects into and normally has a horizontal split type front)
If you can try it in the master point (with the front half of the cover unscrewed as this temporarily disconnects all the secondary points)
if it works fine in the master your internal cabling could be faulty.

I think your problem could be either your PC's power supply not being able to run your PC + Modem + anything else you plug in. OR, your ISP/BT, maybe you are a great distance from exchange, OR faulty internal phone cables, OR, the modem you have is overheating (is it some 105 or 150 BT thing?)

It could of course be any number of things but thats all I can think of off the top of my head

SD.