Its worth noting that the F11 (live), menu settings ,are reset when you pit (shiftP-not pitstop).The lower F12 (apply at pitstop (psi, camber ect)) settings, actually change the setup and do not reset when you telepit, but instead are saved as permanant changes to the set, IIRC you have to make pitstop before telepitting to achieve the above results.

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Quote from dropin_biking :

+1 for scipy being a dick...
~Bryan~

Quote from MikeB :

Scipy, i don't like your attitude.

come on guys, post something usefull.
Scipy has made good posts with a valid argument and Ive been enjoying this thread up till now, everyones got an opinion, and I don't think it matters if its right or wrong as long as it makes for a good disscusion.
Scipy is obviously intelligent and knows about the things he's saying, so just because he adds some attitude dosn't make his points less valid.

The wiki link is more about trucks using engine compression braking when going down steep hills, this is not quite the same as a racing vehicle braking near or on the grip limit, but great reading none the less.
Maybe its just somthing that some people will do and others wont like trailbraking

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Welcome back KeMoT

Congratulations, I too am a sucker for a happy ending

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@You guys that are not running any antivirus sw
I assume you are using a decent firewall?

@ Test Driver Thanks I didnt know that admin accounts were any more vunrable and that "lesser users" accounts were less so.

Isint the virus thing just about not opening e-mails and attachments, or running any exe's from pron websites?

HW firewall ftw

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in real life down shifting too fast without the proper rev matching will break your clutch and or parts in your gearbox, IMO it can be done if its done correctly and does help (at least in FWD) with stopping the front wheels locking (especially in low grip conditions as scipy said above) and can help (with blips) to keep the turbo spooling, not worth the mechanical risks unless your racing tho.

In LFS it seems to help alot more and you dont need to be as precise with the gas and suffer virtually no damage (depending on car) so people exploit it to gain time.

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@Scipy, regarding the rant above you know in practice things dont always match therotical equasions ect, and in some vehicles and situations due to suspension movements under braking additional engine braking can have a positive effect even if its only psychological. So I guess I think your Dad could be right

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Hey Lloyd,

Do you lose connection at other times or only when you play this sim?

Its worth checking your cables from the phone point to the modem and then to the PC, do you use any other USB devices? wheel or pad KB, mouse ect? some gamepads can mess up things sometimes.

try to limit the amount of programs runnig in the background even MSN and media player can have an effect online, press ctrl-alt & Delete together and the taskmanager should come up then you can click the process tab and see whats runnning,

P2P is things like Kazzaa and Limewire music(and other files) sharing programs, AOL are probably using content filtering and could be slowing or even resetting your con form time to tme.

Ping times are shown ingame in the multiplayer connection list see pic below, what XXms times are you getting when you display the server list?

Is the modem in your house/flat/castle connected to the master BT point? or is it connected to a secondary point? (the master is the first box the phone cable from the pole/ground connects into and normally has a horizontal split type front)
If you can try it in the master point (with the front half of the cover unscrewed as this temporarily disconnects all the secondary points)
if it works fine in the master your internal cabling could be faulty.

I think your problem could be either your PC's power supply not being able to run your PC + Modem + anything else you plug in. OR, your ISP/BT, maybe you are a great distance from exchange, OR faulty internal phone cables, OR, the modem you have is overheating (is it some 105 or 150 BT thing?)

It could of course be any number of things but thats all I can think of off the top of my head

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Excellent post Gizz

If theres one thing that will make you faster quicker is to learn the lines of a track, a great way is to watch the WR laps, but there are more than one fast line around a track and online you sometimes need to take other lines in order to overtake well, so learn the lines, after that its all self development as you do more and more laps to gain that detailed mental 3d picture of the track.

studying you own replays should enable you to see where time could be gained also

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Last edited by SparkyDave, Sat 13 Oct 2007, 21:38.

Hi Lloyd
well win XP is a good start
are you using AOL broadband? or dialup? do you know the connection speed (512kbps 1024kbps ect)
do you have a modem they sent you? or a router maybe?
how does it connect into your PC (usb or ethernet plug?)
do you use wireless connection?
are there any other PC's (LAN) that use the same connection?
do you have many processes running when you play LFS (ctrl-Alt-Delete click processes tab)
do you use P2P software or Torrent software? if you do check in processes that its completely off, before starting LFS.
what ping times do you get in the server list within LFS?

OK Im not a user of AOL Ive never heard it rated could be that your ISP is using "traffic shaping" or "port blocking" this could be the main cause of your prob, tech support should be able to tell you if they are employing these restrictions.

the more info you can give the more chance there is of someone here being able to help you

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Last edited by SparkyDave, Sat 13 Oct 2007, 19:21. Reason : speeeling ;)

I don't think anyone could help you, without some information on your HW and problem, you need to be more specific.

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I used to love tractors, but I dont really any more...


I guess you could say, that Im, an ExTractorFan



couldn't help myself hehe.

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Sinbads got it right about predictability IMO. In the private servers where everyone knows each other, and have raced together many times, there are very few crashes. Theres more often than not some light contact(depending on car), but again its predictable and managable, most of the time
Public servers however it can be a different story, even the most aware and skillfull of drivers can still get taken out sometimes. although there are some here who can see the "very late braking divebombers" coming and will change their lines through turns to avoid them, in a kind of reverse switchback I suppose to some its like a game, within a sim, within this virtual world we all visit.

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Quote from StableX :

I don't see why this is off topic or moved here in the slightest when its directly related to LFS and I added it there as its use as an LFS ingame tool for chatting and communicating... who moved it?

the staff here are having a bit of a clean up

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Looks interesting.
Reminds me of the "gamespy network".

I dont use anything like that, just lfs world and teamspeak for me, sometimes msn messenger, but I dont like using it oh and we have a little smapperbox over at our teamsite.

mind you I dont really get time to play anything else that often, except the odd racing demo that takes my fancy and a little AA (yes its free) when I dont feel like setting the wheel and chair up

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Its not just visual reactions that would achieve that Col, but audio clips from teams TS servers interjected at approprate times would give some insite for the viewers, I think the sort of quality broadcasts by the likes of STCC and MOE in the past are top notch, and are getting better and better with each release. Once established I think Simsports could offer more to the viewer in an "on demand" way like TV is going anyway.

and with addon,s like the "trackcam"? that was used during last years moe broadcast to give different, and more realistic camera positions ect, and the style of commentary makes a big step into producing shows people want to watch and keep watching.

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Very nice to watch, excellent job getting LFS into the media

only good things can come from this kind of thing

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Quote from rc10racer :

Not sure if these pictures are any good for my rig but who cares.

Is that with standard track texture? looks like some rainbow/oil on the racing line

heres a couple from my system ATI X850XT-PE max quality via TT.

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I dont think LFS being DX8 game, really pushes today's GFX cards at all, sure some high res AA and AF hit the fps, but with a modern card its not really a prob, the CPU throughput seems to be the key to increasing fps, but thats a little off topic

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Quote from LOUiX :

What does a man from Kazakhstan want to know about my specific location in cheshire for ?

Because some people dont always tell the truth on the internet

somthing about Borat?

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Hi J@tko
Some demo users if they signed up to this forum early enough, do have an avatar

I think your BL1 time is very good for KB, remember its alot easyer to control the cars with a good FF wheel (and alot more immersive)

after you buy S2 (I think you will) you will soon learn the tracks and get up to speed, and find racers of all levels of experiance to race close with.
Its all about having a great race for me winning and losing don't really come into it (much)

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Quote from NoGhost :

Dont you understand that there is dudes always again and again race after race blocking lead lappers. Thats why it keeps peoples fingers on F1 = blueflag respect leadlappers . after few that shit it changes to vote kick.

As mentioned, in the CTRA servers the very fact that when someone uses a BlueFlag bind it gives the car being lapped the absolute right to race and or block the person spammimg BF.

This is only at the CTRA, atm and is a special rule ($blue)

however because of such differing rules in different servers the blue flag rule is in danger of becoming missinterpreted by newcommers to the sim.

IMO Blueflag binds are just rude, the game does very well on its own to inform someone they are about to be lapped.

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Kev can you post a full resolution ss?

ATI FTW especially at higher res with lots of aa + af

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Quote from thisnameistaken :

It's a Vinviddier something, it's got something like six hundred Megs, and it's about the size of a house brick and weighs the same. I think it can create a lot of graphics, enough to keep my 22" monitor full anyway.

ahh yes you need to adjust your mortar settings (try moving the mip bias?)

worth a mention for LCD owners, running LFS at any other resolution appart from your monitors actual 1:1 native resolution can cause some blurring ect, always use the cable supplied with the display (DVI is superior to VGA)

Jak I personally use the dither function dont see much difference with it off, whats it do?

I have an old ATI X850PE and use Tray Tools to adjust everything to max quality via that, but I remember a gfx problem with advanced trilinear filtering on my card that made the kerbs look fuzzy Ill have to test

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What flavor GFX you using Kev?

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If the arrow keys dont appear to work, use shift+ arrow keys

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I think Jak has hit the nail on the head I suppose it all comes down to supply and demand or maybe just demand as long as people are willing to shell out £24 or £36 to be able to use this alpha-beta-delta software then it will always be worth it to them/us.


most of us realise the potential this game/sim has and can see the work Scawen/the devs put into it and for whatever reason keep playing it over and over

for me its so worth it its untrue even if its just for some real life escapism.

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