The new DiRT game has a good version of Pikes Peak, and somehwat accurate, but you have to get far in the game to run the entire course. Has all the good hillclimb cars too (and huge hillclimb semis).
Haven't played a better version of it anywhere else. I tried the conversion for rFactor, but yeah it is crap as ajp71 said already.
Haven't played a better version of it anywhere else. I tried the conversion for rFactor, but yeah it is crap as ajp71 said already.
I don't think there was talk of abandoning the stage system, just a mention from fans how "LFS will never be finished" in terms of it being a finished S1, S2, or S3 version because of more and more patches. More like the kind of talk that it is always in an ongoing stage of development, and that if S2 ever does reach final, it would keep on being developed as S2 Beta A, B, C or whatever.
Still, in this regard, I do agree that the stages are purely a name to set the different versions apart from each other, and that a lot of the community believes it to be like big finished version and then the devs can finally get to developing S3. When S2 goes final, that most definitely does not mean S3 will be in the works soon after. S2 will still need to be refined, fixed, improved, etc... so if you put that into perspective, realistically S3 is still going to be just our hopes and dreams. If S3 is ever truly going to happen years from now, by that time some will have grown older of LFS becoming less and less of a 'future sim', and probably moved on by then, to something new, or wont play games at all.
The dev's envision quite a nice sim, and have made something spectacular up to this point. If it were to ever keep growing, you'd need to see some big changes for it to keep up with modern games... or else business is just going to crumble to just a small group of community followers (much like GPL fans). I wont go into what LFS 'should have' to make it a competitive driving game in this era, been repeated too many times already
We do know that the devs need to earn money one way or another, so if they are still getting purchases through S2, I wonder how long they can survive. If they slow down with progress, I very much doubt they will have a stable income, and choices are either A) Keep developing to satisfy their users, or B) Go find another job in game development. Scawen has a kid to care for, so being at home to work is really convenient I bet.
Still, in this regard, I do agree that the stages are purely a name to set the different versions apart from each other, and that a lot of the community believes it to be like big finished version and then the devs can finally get to developing S3. When S2 goes final, that most definitely does not mean S3 will be in the works soon after. S2 will still need to be refined, fixed, improved, etc... so if you put that into perspective, realistically S3 is still going to be just our hopes and dreams. If S3 is ever truly going to happen years from now, by that time some will have grown older of LFS becoming less and less of a 'future sim', and probably moved on by then, to something new, or wont play games at all.
The dev's envision quite a nice sim, and have made something spectacular up to this point. If it were to ever keep growing, you'd need to see some big changes for it to keep up with modern games... or else business is just going to crumble to just a small group of community followers (much like GPL fans). I wont go into what LFS 'should have' to make it a competitive driving game in this era, been repeated too many times already
We do know that the devs need to earn money one way or another, so if they are still getting purchases through S2, I wonder how long they can survive. If they slow down with progress, I very much doubt they will have a stable income, and choices are either A) Keep developing to satisfy their users, or B) Go find another job in game development. Scawen has a kid to care for, so being at home to work is really convenient I bet.
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I don't even think bringing up "S3" is even a good idea, especially when all we are discussing here is S2 final. S3 is something non-existent, never talked about as if it were 'real', and just purely fiction at this point in time. Such hype or enthusiasm toward an imaginary day of "the holy S3 release" is just a poor reminder that fans look too far ahead and trust the dev's 3 stage plan... when S2 isn't even finished!
S1 picked itself up and went final, and had a good turnout in my opinion. S2 was going at the same rate for a while after its release, but things have slowed down, dramatically. Interviews with the devs have shown that S3 is not even under discussion or such a positive target for them right now, they want to finish S2 final as far as I can see. Even back in the day with S1 (and still to this day iirc), they wrote their own fortune on their website about buying licenses where they state "you can always donate more if you'd like to help developments, though we cannot assure you we will ever finish the entire plan up to S3". Something of that nature.
I agree with Huru that S2 should've been final when the BF1 was released, but then again, S2 had so many broken pieces in the puzzle to be fixed, it's only a matter of time before something else breaks, and we wait and wait for it to ever be finished.
Games are evolving now to much more complex systems, with better graphics, better environments to interact with, better ideas, etc... By the time S2 is finished, it will long be in the dusty closets of our harddrives, and the ONLY thing that can really truly show us that the devs have S3 in a goodie bag to hand us is if they can update to a more modern era of a game with a blueprint presented somewhere of what we should expect. Or else you will just keep saying "oh its gonna be in S3", and we will all sit and keep dreaming about something that isn't even legitimate.
There is no plan for S3. If there is, show me in words, pictures, sound, etc... what exactly their plan is for S3, what it will include in detail, and maybe even show signs of its development.
S1 picked itself up and went final, and had a good turnout in my opinion. S2 was going at the same rate for a while after its release, but things have slowed down, dramatically. Interviews with the devs have shown that S3 is not even under discussion or such a positive target for them right now, they want to finish S2 final as far as I can see. Even back in the day with S1 (and still to this day iirc), they wrote their own fortune on their website about buying licenses where they state "you can always donate more if you'd like to help developments, though we cannot assure you we will ever finish the entire plan up to S3". Something of that nature.
I agree with Huru that S2 should've been final when the BF1 was released, but then again, S2 had so many broken pieces in the puzzle to be fixed, it's only a matter of time before something else breaks, and we wait and wait for it to ever be finished.
Games are evolving now to much more complex systems, with better graphics, better environments to interact with, better ideas, etc... By the time S2 is finished, it will long be in the dusty closets of our harddrives, and the ONLY thing that can really truly show us that the devs have S3 in a goodie bag to hand us is if they can update to a more modern era of a game with a blueprint presented somewhere of what we should expect. Or else you will just keep saying "oh its gonna be in S3", and we will all sit and keep dreaming about something that isn't even legitimate.
There is no plan for S3. If there is, show me in words, pictures, sound, etc... what exactly their plan is for S3, what it will include in detail, and maybe even show signs of its development.
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When it is Final it doesn't mean it is going to be on store shelves, retailed, etc...
S2 will just turn Final and everyone will download it as usual.
As for if I want it to be Final? Of course I do. But I don't see it becoming final at this current rate... hell I thought we would have S2 Final more than a year ago, but things have slowed down here. Things the dev have promised have not all come into the game yet (happens), and if Final is "really really close" now, I'd be really dissapointed if S2 Final is what we currently are playing. When S2 was all hyped up way before its release, we thought the physics, new cars, new tracks would be enough to call it final. But it has been... what... 2-3 years now since that happened? And now people expect more from S2 Final because of what the devs said they would be putting in the game, and still haven't. Scawen has done a good job of keeping most things updated and improved, but what was expected from Eric, I really want to see him finish that stuff so we can complete this damn S2 FINAL!!!!! Otherwise, if it is completed like --right now-- the game is going to be boring as hell for me.
S2 will just turn Final and everyone will download it as usual.
As for if I want it to be Final? Of course I do. But I don't see it becoming final at this current rate... hell I thought we would have S2 Final more than a year ago, but things have slowed down here. Things the dev have promised have not all come into the game yet (happens), and if Final is "really really close" now, I'd be really dissapointed if S2 Final is what we currently are playing. When S2 was all hyped up way before its release, we thought the physics, new cars, new tracks would be enough to call it final. But it has been... what... 2-3 years now since that happened? And now people expect more from S2 Final because of what the devs said they would be putting in the game, and still haven't. Scawen has done a good job of keeping most things updated and improved, but what was expected from Eric, I really want to see him finish that stuff so we can complete this damn S2 FINAL!!!!! Otherwise, if it is completed like --right now-- the game is going to be boring as hell for me.
Not to mention that there are always methods to bypass any of this 'encryption' in software these days. Unless you want LFS to be super lame and secure for unlocking, etc.... you are better off keeping the way it is, and making it stress free for both new and veteran users (internet or not), and not have Scawen waste his time.
Protection in games will just take LFS and its userbase in the wrong direction. Look how many people refused to buy GTR just because it had Starforce. And what, have people say "I'm not gonna download LFS because it installs ScavierCop on my PC!!!!!" ?? I'll find the Exit door if that day ever comes.....
Protection in games will just take LFS and its userbase in the wrong direction. Look how many people refused to buy GTR just because it had Starforce. And what, have people say "I'm not gonna download LFS because it installs ScavierCop on my PC!!!!!" ?? I'll find the Exit door if that day ever comes.....
What is the price you want to pay?
Get a 8800 GTS, more bang (and memory) for the buck. They run about $300-400 USD, easily. I got mine on Newegg.com. The money invested in a decent card now will pay off for future games. That is of course if you have an 'ok' system to begin with.
Get a 8800 GTS, more bang (and memory) for the buck. They run about $300-400 USD, easily. I got mine on Newegg.com. The money invested in a decent card now will pay off for future games. That is of course if you have an 'ok' system to begin with.
BF2 PR Mod FTW!!! 
Already know a few LFS'ers that play it, good fun.
I forgot about ET, I'll see if I can give it a try, but I get annoyed by the Quake style gameplay in those kinds of games.
Already know a few LFS'ers that play it, good fun.I forgot about ET, I'll see if I can give it a try, but I get annoyed by the Quake style gameplay in those kinds of games.
I played the mod, was fun. But so jacked up lol.....
Been watching a few movies recently, and noticed that Don Cheadle has a striking resemblance to Hamilton's father.... lol!
Yes Hamiltonmania is rubbing off on me
I smell a tv/movie documentary in store..........
Yes Hamiltonmania is rubbing off on me
I smell a tv/movie documentary in store..........
I went back and tried NFS Porsche Unleashed, and as far as I can remember, that was the best version of NFS EA ever released... realism wise. But I stopped playing it ever since I found LFS and GPL. But playing NFS:PU again... it wasn't 'that' great handling wise, I mean a boxster could take turns insanely fast, it did still feel kinda arcadey. But it did have oversteer and it was possible to lose control if you pushed it. But it was always still too easy and grippy. I am sure the new NFS will feel the same way... but EA is always developing their games to cater to a much larger market of younger gamers, thus they make their games easier and user-friendly so nobody gets frustrated and gives the game a bad word.
It's been a long while since NFS has ever felt "good"... but recently EA have already made several attempts at making a "SIMULATION" out of their games, and they've failed miserably.
It's been a long while since NFS has ever felt "good"... but recently EA have already made several attempts at making a "SIMULATION" out of their games, and they've failed miserably.
I highly doubt that. These forums are never going to be smart and clean until mods take out the heavy whips on those who obviously junk this place up. But I think everything is quite laid back here, so I don't see that happening anytime soon. Should have a bit more action taken to prevent such users of making the forum their 'life'... it has always been out of hand to be honest. I rarely want to post or visit here anymore, compared to how often I used to.
EDIT: Exactly AndroidXP
Yeah, and there are some top 10 skins that amaze me in ways I can only say... wtf????
There are many non-top-10 winners who's skins definitely deserve to be in LFS. What a shame.
What the hell!!!?!?!?!? Where did that one come from.... I never saw that one to vote for EVER. Never saw any of Linsen's skin... dammit!! I surely wouldve voted for that
I wouldn't worry about the LX4/LX6 duplicates, the devs will surely pick only ONE of those for whatever car it fits best.
But still as I said, I hope the devs do this, because there are so many similar color schemes, it just dissapoints me to see a whole lot nicer skins that didn't make the cut into their respective Top 10. Those of which would really give a good variety of skins for the LX, and better choices for the devs.
But still as I said, I hope the devs do this, because there are so many similar color schemes, it just dissapoints me to see a whole lot nicer skins that didn't make the cut into their respective Top 10. Those of which would really give a good variety of skins for the LX, and better choices for the devs.
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WOW I am really surprised to see the skins I liked in there, but also surprised some skins that I know a lot of people liked did not make it in the Top 10 for each. I mean.... a lot of them are just way too similar with colors... wish there was more of a variety Well choose the best and make it a variety then
Too bad "Dragon Exhaust" car has KATT Pipe
Well choose the best and make it a variety then Too bad "Dragon Exhaust" car has KATT Pipe
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In most cases, you will never find the font you are looking for, trust me. A unique logo such as this will almost always have a handmade typeface by the designer, or one that is bought for a high price from some good font foundries. If you can find whatever this is, good hunting
Seems like a pretty easy set of characters to make yourself imo, or to find something similar.
Seems like a pretty easy set of characters to make yourself imo, or to find something similar.
Never thought of that one, thanks for mentioning
.I'll stick to my +1 replies still at the moment. Because I'd much rather leave a comment along with my +1...... at least the person will know what I agree/approve of whatever is posted.
It isn't necessarily a "thank you" situation either with these posts... but more or less about agreement or disagreement on a subject. How will you know how many people DISAGREE on a particular subject when all you see is a fulfillment of thank yous?. Kind of biased with shortcomings if you ask me.
The list gets to be pretty big I agree.
I'd rather see something of this nature with a collapse button beside the thanks button. By default it should all stay collapsed, and then the user can click the button to see the users that thanked the post.
I'd rather see something of this nature with a collapse button beside the thanks button. By default it should all stay collapsed, and then the user can click the button to see the users that thanked the post.
Can it be moved to the LEFT side next to quote? Being on the right next to the most-used buttons (quick reply and other common quote buttons), it just is annoying.
BTW, there is a better thumb you can replace in the vB Button Graphics pack... one you have now looks kinda crude. Or well, use the one FEL posted:
. Or a +1
I just mention the placement because as you scroll down and want to quote a post or quickly press quick-reply, it is RIGHT next to where your mouse pointer is near the scroll button typically.
BTW, there is a better thumb you can replace in the vB Button Graphics pack... one you have now looks kinda crude. Or well, use the one FEL posted:
. Or a +1I just mention the placement because as you scroll down and want to quote a post or quickly press quick-reply, it is RIGHT next to where your mouse pointer is near the scroll button typically.
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That thanks button sure is a stupid addon..... What's the point?
Terrible button too.
Terrible button too.
Someone actually made a skin already for GTR2. I happened to come across it when searching the net...
http://www.nogripracing.com/details.php?filenr=4856
Norbi is doing quite well for his first PSC even in my opinion. And rough 1-2 secs slower isn't so bad.
http://www.nogripracing.com/details.php?filenr=4856
Norbi is doing quite well for his first PSC even in my opinion. And rough 1-2 secs slower isn't so bad.
Been watching Norbi's onboard footage of when he was in the other Seat cup cars before this. He pwnt them all he told me 
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Good Luck Norbi! And sweet ride in that nice looking team car
.Good Luck Norbi! And sweet ride in that nice looking team car
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Yeah had this happen to me one time. Except my car ended up halfway into the ground and was stuck there. Just another bug that we don't see fixed from Eric
Met Mario at Laguna Seca in the paddock once... nice man, and invited my family into his team lounge area where we got to crash their party and eat all their food .
Sold a pit scooter to one of his crew too. Now if only I could get a testdrive in one of their cars
.Sold a pit scooter to one of his crew too. Now if only I could get a testdrive in one of their cars
The game is more fun on a Xbox 360, I played it for a bit at a friend's house and it was pretty entertaining. Tracks are very well made, especially Pikes Peak and dirt truck/buggy tracks that you race on.
I was going through the game pretty quickly though on the hardest level of opponents. Was still a challenge with them close behind by a few seconds or more, but still was very easy. It was entertaining though, that is all I liked about it.... because each race is different with various types of cars and classes... it's not the same kind of cars each time. I have a hunch that the game would feel like crap on PC with a steering wheel. The game is just far too fast paced for a wheel, you'd need to use a quick gamepad like in a console.
I was going through the game pretty quickly though on the hardest level of opponents. Was still a challenge with them close behind by a few seconds or more, but still was very easy. It was entertaining though, that is all I liked about it.... because each race is different with various types of cars and classes... it's not the same kind of cars each time. I have a hunch that the game would feel like crap on PC with a steering wheel. The game is just far too fast paced for a wheel, you'd need to use a quick gamepad like in a console.
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