Quote from Trekkerfahrer :

Link 1: What has an Oval with a Motorway to do?
Link 2: He wants to make it, not suggest....
Link 3: A little bit similar to my sugestion
Link 4: A motorway is not a drag track
Link 5: See no. 1
Link 6: Totally away from my thread....

Maybe YOU should read before getting angry....

so back to reality

i would like to see my suggestion cause german motorways are very fast and maybe a part of a german motorway can be part of the game

I am not angry at all. The overall concept of 'your idea' is that you have this top speed testing track, and every single one of those threads relates to that. Every time someone posts a thread that they want to test top speeds, it goes kaput with comments. If you think about top speed testing in LFS, it is incredibly boring and has no purpose because we have predefined cars that cannot be modified to shoot for 'speed records'. In the end, someone would just find the max speed for every car, and that doesn't really have any good use to all of us other than a statistic. In S1, the AU1 lot was able to be hopped out and you could drive for several miles in empty space to try and get to top speed. Wasn't anything special after a few minutes, and that is about it. And with a top speed setup from testing, there is nothing we'd be able to apply it to. It doesn't help for gear ratios either, since gear ratios are specific to each track. Doesn't help with aero or anything else as well.

LFS Tweak will only get you to a certain speed before LFS resets you... so nothing special there either. For racing it would just be worse than the oval in both excitement & skill (lack thereof).

Quote from Hankstar :

Despite those examples not being exactly the same as your idea, the point is that the idea of a very long straight track to test top speeds has already been suggested (more than once), hence Tweak's suggestion not just to search for existing threads, but also to read the posts in those threads to get an idea of what people think of the suggestion. You could've saved yourself some time FYI: LFS'ers generally don't really see the need for a huge long test area, especially since there's only one guy who makes the tracks and we all want much more interesting things from him .

What's wrong with adding your idea to a thread that's similar anyway?

:iagree:

Last edited by Tweaker, Fri 6 Jul 2007, 17:36.

Now all you need is a girl on your team and you're set.

Been wanting to get back into flight sims, but don't have a joystick. Guys, is a force feedback joystick really all that useful? Other than feeling the proper forces from resistance and other shakey bits that could save your plane, wouldn't just a decent spring non-ff joystick do fine in sims like LOMAC and IL-2? I want to get those 2 games, but not really digging the need to have a FF joystick for some reason. Just some normal Logitech joystick for $40. Because finally I have a nice PC to play LOMAC!

Will definitely get my hands on RBR too

Last edited by Tweaker, Thu 5 Jul 2007, 23:07.

Is this a smoking ban for just restaraunts/pubs/bars? We've had a smoking ban here in California for several years in restaraunts only, and it is great to be honest. I am not a smoker, and have a friend that smokes... so I am somewhat used to the stench and dirty air. But when it comes to that junk floating around when you are trying to eat, eughhh. Much better with the law in place.

I am pretty sure this has already been suggested 100+ times. Don't know how you couldn't find results when you searched. :doh:

Searched threads for "top speed":

http://www.lfsforum.net/showth ... 8&highlight=top+speed
http://www.lfsforum.net/showth ... 1&highlight=top+speed
http://www.lfsforum.net/showth ... 8&highlight=top+speed
http://www.lfsforum.net/showth ... 3&highlight=top+speed
http://www.lfsforum.net/showth ... 0&highlight=top+speed
http://www.lfsforum.net/showth ... 3&highlight=top+speed
etc etc

Read replies in those to get an idea of what people think

And another point against the FWD GTRs is that their tires get very hot right away. And if you go off the line (say, to let a GT1 car pass), they lose control and have to slow down EVEN MORE to get back on the line. That would be a multitude of problems for the faster cars. Because if you go off the racing line in those FWD cars, there is not much extra added grip as you slow down... because infact, if you are turning very hard and then let off the throttle, most of the time the car induces MORE understeer and it could run wide. The only way those cars can moderately give room for a car to pass is for it to slow down to a much slower cornering speed, whilst keeping the throttle on slightly in order for it to "pull" itself through the corner. Still, the car will be going uber slow, and that spells disaster. Two tight and very fast tracks next season are BL1 and SO4. Passing a FWD car at South City would be like driving through an aftermath of an accident, just not safe at all.

Some people just prefer to use it to fine tune any minor understeering issues. Because as you turn at slow speeds (where caster is noticed the most), you should be able to tune caster in order to give a better 'loose' feeling when turning in a slow corner. You will find hotlappers do this just to gain a bit of time in the slow spots. For example on Aston National, the tight set of two corners is crucial for time gain in a GTR car, so you will notice a bit less than maximum caster on hotlaps setups. It is better than having to lower your overall camber, because that would hurt your highspeed cornering. I think caster helps the most for FWD cars, where you need to feel loose and flat to get the power down... because excessive camber while accelerating/exiting a corner, not good. Also the higher the caster, the most pesky the steering becomes with its sensitivity at slow speeds (In other words, the highest you go, you will find a quicker grip-loss point as you turn the wheel farther and farther.... whereas lower caster it will be more gradual transfer into understeer the more you turn the wheel to its extreme, conserving the tires).

It just came to my attention to JUST how SLOW the FWD GTR cars at tracks the big GTRs are really fast at. Was on a server with BLGP and those two types of cars... The FWD GTR was so god damn slow at Blackwood, and the GTRs were coming up on me like flies. A fast GTR could pass me on the exit of one corner, and nearly gone the next corner at BL. Imagine 30 cars, half of which could be FWD GTRs... that would be nasty at Blackwood since you'd always be passing a shitty FWD car every corner, it would be a mess. At least with the restricted GTRs, there is plenty of safe speeds through corners to not have the hassle of needing to get by through corners like on BL1.

Quite frankly, the FWD cars were crap for long races.

bilbo baggins won????

damn, this year is a crazy year for Scottish drivers. Must be a sign.

-Paul di Resta in DTM doing really well as a rookie, and fellow Scot Susie Stoddart noobed him off the track
-Dario Franchitti wins Indy 500 and last weekend's race
-Coulthard trying to save Silverstone
-And now Bawbag be gettin all the slack Scottish girls with his ESCC crown

gg noodles

Pretty cool. But enough bumming SK already, . Watch some other drivers!!!! Please!

EDIT: Thanks for link troy

Last edited by Tweaker, Wed 4 Jul 2007, 18:34.

Yeah lol... ouch!!!!

Quote :

In a search conducted by the police at Coughlan's house today, documents allegedly belonging to Ferrari were found

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I wonder if FIA will have any comments on this, or penalties

Can you make the more popular color variations of those ipod adverts? The light blue, green, and pink I'd use green

Pretty nice. Would like to see it with a black wing instead (FZR), and not use the "old" LFS logo set.

The majority of fast drivers will know a thing or two about car control, and thus be seen as a good driver all around. Only a few times here and there do you get some fast drivers who race really dirty... and it wouldn't be CD's system at fault. Still something simple to be dealt with via an admin.

I know there are consistent and fair drivers that a few seconds off pace, but I think their idea is that you can get access to CD2 purely because that is the "pro" level, as stated.

And if the 2nd class turns out to be a FWD class, I bet a lot of fair/fast teams will jump to the occasion it and sign up for MoE for the first time simply because of the other available class to compete in, and not have the fear of knowing they will be outright dominated by the teams mentioned in Hoellsen's post above.

The downside to having the restricted GTRs is that it will be somewhat of a new car for everyone, and not something anyone is well accustomed to (versus the FWD GTRs). I'd very much like to see two championships at stake, rather than one... especially when the grid is expected to be twice as large this season, and there is available room for such a setup. Of the teams last season, I'd say the top 8 are very competitive for points, while the remaining half were there for the experience and to enjoy it. If you added even more of those such teams all into one class, it just adds to the amount of teams that are truly out of 'contention' for good points. If you try to get more and more fast teams into GT1, that would be great, but as already stated, you will only find about a good top 10 max of fast teams to fill GT1 (plus 5 or 6 more entry-level teams) (and the same entry-count applies for GT2). Other teams (new or veteran to MoE) could choose to go in the GT2 class, and have something to fight for there. 2 winners is better than 1 in my book .

A slow moving car shouldn't be a problem to pass by. Everyone here is experienced enough to be patient and cautious right? On every track in the schedule, there is easily several corners ahead of you to see a car in advance.... these cars don't just appear 'out of the blue' and act as a brick wall.... you have time to slow down.

I wish those that voted would comment in this discussion.

Last edited by Tweaker, Mon 2 Jul 2007, 23:21.

LFS S3 [41%]??????

S3? Come on now. iRacing will definitely be out before then, maybe even Racing Legends

To be honest, I think BHM get a bit sarcastic in terms of LFS development... thus the "S3" instead of S2. Not that it is wrong to do so, kind of funny considering how long it is taking for S2 (3 years now). :doh:

Quote from Jakg :

XP 32-bit (and Vista) supports 4 GB of Memory Minus Stuff like Cache, GFX memory etc usually giving you 3.5 GB of RAM

No they don't!

Trust me, you need 64-bit OS for anythign above 2.75gb. Been there done that. If you run 32-bit, the OS will ONLY recognize 2.75gb, and not use all your memory address space.

There is only a hack out there for the Boot.ini which will get your measely 32-bit OS to get to 3gb and that is it. Nothing higher.

XP is dated back to year 2001, when memory requirements were not nearly as high as 2 or 3gb, and never been updated since. 64-bit is only way to take advantage of using more memory. Something Microsoft is VERY far behind in because even a decent Apple computer can utilize 4gb minimum.

Last edited by Tweaker, Mon 2 Jul 2007, 17:25.

Quote from Thunderhead :

err 2 x 512= 1024= 1 Gb ram.

So you wont have 4 gb of ram,if you add 2 1 gb ram modules....... you'll have 3 GB ram.

Also if he chooses Win XP 32-bit, only 2.75gb of ram will show up. You need a 64-bit OS (XP 64-bit or Vista 64-bit) to show and utilize your all your memory above 2.75 gb. I bought 4gb simply for the fact that I do a lot of intensive graphics with applications that become memory hungry the longer I work. And using XP 64-bit which works great. In comparison from 2gb to 4gb, the difference is noticeably better with more memory obviously. But for typical gaming and such, 2gb is fine.

Looks like BMW is still at it with demonstrations of their cars and equipment. I read this article and yet again they will have a simulator used there for people to play on.

Is anyone going to Silverstone? Have a look in the pitlane park and see what the simulator is like

http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2007/7/6390.html

Is there a way to know if I am licensed? My times are 1:41.xx in the races. But I don't know what my status is for having a license

Kind of old news. Was local news here where I live. There are even faster electric cars than this though....

http://youtube.com/watch?v=8qDZOBQs60w --- The guys driving the supercars are terrible drivers methinks.

I am not trolling, what other comments might I have on this subject than exactly what I had posted earlier. Ferrari are punks for losing, and they ALWAYS go and blame something out of ordinary in the team for their cars being slow. If this is true, then count my comment out, but the Ferraris aren't completely off the pace, they are still going quite fast. And any competitors being faster than Ferrari at a few GPs is nothing new, so why does it magically have to be these few last GPs that some dude sabotages their fuel :rolleyes:.

THERE is your nonsense genius.

You probably come up with the same excuses yourself when playing online in LFS... everyone does. "Oh it is my setup, anyone have a faster setup?" ---or--- "I am tired, goodbye" (essentially meaning I don't like losing, this sucks). "My dog hit my brake pedal" :doh:

Last edited by Tweaker, Sun 1 Jul 2007, 22:56.

Well the 24H Kyoto race was open to anyone and full of noobs, there were crashes left and right. Not a fair comparison imo.

EDIT: My vote STAYS for restricted GTRs

Last edited by Tweaker, Tue 3 Jul 2007, 17:33.

Yeah, it is basically saying "I am not a cautious driver"

The one disadvantage is that there are really only maybe 5 or 6 top teams that are truly championship contenders in MoE. IF we had a full 30 car grid of just one class, imagine how easy it would be for a backmarker team to just 'give up' or not get any points? Would be quite boring for them, and there could be fast GT2 teams as well, and they'd be shooting for their own championship. People are generally pretty good while racing under blue flag... I don't think it really matters what car you have, you'll get some mistakes on behalf of the backmarkers no matter what car they use, even a GTR if it was all one-class.

The two class racing gives MoE some diversity and variety, rather than leaving the title to just a few top teams in only one class. There can still be plenty of normal GTR cars to go around (16+), so there certainly wouldn't be any shortage. But people should learn to drive in multi-class races, especially for endurance. Real endurance racing drivers have to deal with this all the time, and I don't see why you'd be so "scared" about it. If you can't drive with slower cars on the track (and vice versa), then you need to step away from the norm and try something proper for endurance racing.

A GT1 car could easily avoid an accident from a slow-going GT2 car, you have to be smart not to make any mistakes. And likewise, if there are stupid mistakes, penalties will be given. The majority of teams that have great racecraft have a growing interest in MoE this season, specifically for the 2-class racing. The more experienced teams would want to be in GT1, while other new entry-level teams would probably opt for GT2.

It isn't some mystery that there will be fast and slow cars on the track, I am sure everyone will be WELL aware of that. So I think your fear of accidents isn't unusual (happens all the time in real endu racing), but still kind of wimpy

In LFS GT (which had the FWD for the 2nd class), they had some nasty accidents between 2 classes, but it wasn't like every lap. They all looked to be easily avoidable, yet it is so easy to blame it on the slower car.