Quote from boosterfire :

It's not actually possible to have two different rim designs with the same characteristics. They can probably easily weight the same, but their shape do affect a bit aerodynamics.

IRL yes, in lfs for now, no... (I bet).

Quote from el pibe :

on topic : i find it ricer( ish ) to have the choice of alloys.... it only improves the looks.... in a racing sim u wont to go faster not to POSE ! coz that would be a posing simulator ....

Kinda wrong. Some cars when modded requires heavier wheels than stock so that the added power/torque won't make the spin too much. In some other cars, lighter materials = faster times.

Quote from LFSn00b :

look at the wheels...

Go to Flyin' Miata to have some information on this project.

This is a Westfield like car, made from scratch, using a modded miata 1600cc for the NA6C version (maybe 1800 form the NA8C though, not sure). That's why it has the miata rims. So basically, what is similar to the miata is : the engine.
The rims are there because they are light and can be taken from the donor miata

http://www.flyinmiata.com/westfield/donor.php
http://www.flyinmiata.com/westfield/

î___ For more information

I am sorry... some people said that have seen some huge tailpipe hit the helicopter, which made it uncontrolable, and hence led to the ending we all know.

Quote from March Hare :

No. He is the Pheared Archvillain who is responsible for all those humongous tailpipes on boyracer and drift cars. He sneaks up to totally stock and innocent cars and shafts their tailpipes so hard that it gets streched and the car gets totally out of shape. Thus are boyracer and drift cars made.

To the OP. Why not check the leagues subsection? I think I've seen a couple of drift leagues there. Or you could try actually doing something worthwhile and make your own league "with lisense and stuff".

Oh Lord, Dear Lord... So the legend was true...

And Collin McRae isn't there anymore to fight it by showing that standard looking cars are as strong as their evily riced versions...

Quote from radnes :

it would be way cool if we cood get a drift series with lisense and stuff
batllezorz ftw

wut do you think

What is Batllezorz ? Is it a Villain in the Marvel or DC Comics' universe ?

Quote from Zen321 :

Thanks again guys !

The deadline for the application is going to be on Sunday november 2nd

Keep up the good work !

EDIT : My bad about the deadline , I meant the end of this week

Fixed

Quote from Kristjan.J :

Well, these track parts are already there but not used yet, so I think they're going to be used in the future, that's why devs made them there. Just like some other track, like Westhill has one part there in the middle.

I did not see any parts in Westhill that look like a track, they are more like access roads to the track.
Even though on the straight that is opposed the start's there is some corner with rumble pads.. but it seems to lead nowhere, and there is no further way out

However, the 2 bridges you go under seem to be usable to have a track that goes from inside westhill, to outside westhill

Quote from Toyo9J :

flip' n drift'

http://d.imagehost.org/view/06 ... 008-10-15_22-39-29-28.png

Looks like some new Accord (or Civic ) here

Thanks again guys !

The deadline for the application is going to be on Sunday november 2nd

Keep up the good work !

EDIT : My bad about the deadline , I meant the end of this week

Last edited by Zen321, Mon 27 Oct 2008, 22:54.

Very good and innovative idea.+1

Quote from Heiko1 :

You can slow down... its possible.. just use ice tyres :P

so chavm481 is right but on lfs u cant slow down just very less.

Best contradiction ever.

Ice + Braking + Ice tires = slowing down

Now, let's remove the Ice tires from the equation

Because of the compound : Ice tires = slowing down (the only thing that has enough contact with the road to slow down)

So : Ice + Braking = 0

Just like in the barriers. So chavm81 is wrong.

Quote from Shadowww :

Try to put custom start position there?

I tried today, but what is weird is that you can't see anything, just plain gray, except when you put the view from above. However, the road is drivable, untill for no reason you start going halfway below the road then flip without the ability to reset.

Damn I read this thread without watching the dates

I am all the more hopeless now Especially if the Scirocco plays the same scenario as the FBM that some dude posted above

Quote from chavm481 :

you can slow down on ice but not on there ramps.

When your wheels have 0 traction, you can't slow down or use your brakes.

Just like on ice, slow down and turn before the ramp.

Quote from chavm481 :

i like the bridge on the Aston straight (camera moves on top )

Quote from Crashgate3 :

the bridge by the pits at South City is good too, the camera can go right up on top of the wall.

Same for the bridge in FE Gold and Black ^^

Je plussoie avec verve.

(I frenetically say +1)

Quote from Gunn :

There is one thing that humans absolutely do not need at all, ever.....and that's advertising.

I am not so sure about that. Without advertising you won't be able to hear if some new products that might be useful for you will be on the market.

Advertising is a way to get the information to the customer. Then if he is unable to resist his need to consume, then he must be shot down.

Quote from duke_toaster :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow's_hierarchy_of_needs

Damn you, you were too fast for me

Quote from chavm481 :

so it cant be made of ice.

Yes it can !

Ever tried to go on a layer of ice at 50mph, then try to steer without slowing down ?

Trust me, it's the same feeling, especially when you are going uphill

Yes, this is because of the casters of the axle (mainly front).
There is around a -0.5 difference, and you can see it in the tires part of the setup menu

Also, if you jump, you can damage the suspension, which will affect the camber

If someone manages to find that text file, and if this is revealed to be true, maybe this will mean that sometime (a long time away in a galaxy far, far away) weather with ice patches on a track or a snow RallyX track will be made ?

@AMB : Okay then they are helpless

Quote from AMB :

I went in there and they said amb and some foreign language after it and I said i don't speak that language and they then said that, lol.

Maybe there's a misunderstanding here. Because on your pic it is clearly said "don't speak that language" instead of "I don't speak that language", so they might have thought you were aggressive.

Quote from danthebangerboy :

You shouldnt play at school but i used to play all sorts of games on the pc in our form room pc at lunchtimes as our form room was right on the outskirts of the school where nobody used to hang out, just me and a couple of lads, and girls. Girls were new to me then, it was all very exciting!

The PC in question was a mighty pentium 333mhz with 32mb of RAM AND had slight 3dfx capabilites! (voodoo2 card) which was fast as hell at the time (god im showing my age now!) Although it was mainly demo versions. i managed to get, GTA1, quake 1 and 2, carmageddon 1, tomb raider 2 toca2, age of empires, fallout 1 and duke nukem 3d installed.

It was literally the only gaming PC in the whole school! I will never forget the day that the deputy head (vice principal) came in and caught me playing GTA. I thought, oh shit, im in trouble now. He asked me in a casual manner, "so danny boy, what ye playing there then?" (he was scottish) I was a bit cautious in my answer as i was still waiting to be in trouble so i just said i found this game and was trying it out.

Once the 5 minute demo time had finished and he had been watching me he then asked if he could have a go. The sight of a 60 year old man drifting a limo into pedestrians and splatting them, plus really getting into it was something i will never forget!

Good ol' times...

I remember when my father installed the Voodoo2 card into our computer... it was the beginning of a new age !

+1, even if this has been suggested indirectly already.
forest track (as you say) = trees + denivelation = countryside track + mountain trck

Quote from wsinda :

Do you think these ads would influence your buying behaviour?

• If they don't influence you, advertisers won't pay for them. That means no extra income for the devs. The only improvement would be extra immersion (for some racers), but that can already be achieved with the add-on linked to by LFSn00b.
  

• If they do influence you, the advertisers make profit from the things you buy. A fraction of that money goes to the LFS devs. It would have been more efficient if you'd donated that money directly to them.
  

For those who compare the situation with ads in real life: the ads IRL are not targeted at the racers but at the spectators. Online racing doesn't have any spectators to speak of.

I don't see any advantage of online ads. They do carry cost, however:
- Development time (including the constant arms race between ad providers and ad blockers).
- Network bandwidth and wait times for downloaded ads.
- Irritation with racers who don't like ads.

If it happens to LFS, I'll volunteer.

Not really.

The general idea of advertising is that there is an advertising space (aka the advertisment .dds files in LFS). The advertiser wants to use this advertisement, in counterpart, it pays the owner of the advertising space (aka Scavier) to put whatever image he wants to fit in (if the advertising space's owner agrees to sign the deal).

You don't get a fraction of their profit, because you can't know how much benefit increase you get from a single spot. Doing this way means either one of those will be $cr3wed in the process. So for mutual agreement, you usually pay a fixed rate for using that much advertising space for a defined period of time.

As I said earlier, as as Daijmin said as well, the advertisment should be spot on the racing world. There are different kinds of ads that could be interesting for advertisers, just because of the nature of the game :
Online : Different websites and communities, e-business (eBay, Amazon)
Racing : Cars, Part manufacturer (racing), motorsports magazines, IRL racing series.
Simulator : Car Simulation gear (Logitech, Fanatec, G-Vest, Force Dynamics, etc), Other simulations (Xplane, MFS).

This is the small circle on spot-on advertisement. Then, around it there is a larger circle in which you can include categories that are related to the one aboce, like tuning, ricing equipement, etc.

I think that if this is implemented, we should not have the Obama stuff like in Burnout Paradise, or some adverts that have noting to do with the racing world (like in Project Torque and the movies in it). However, I don't see any problem or contradiction if we have adverts that are close to what the game is.