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amp88
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This is a very interesting video on how economic inequality harms societies. It goes to the point I was struggling to make above about the danger of using percentage of millionaires as a good indicator, which flymike suggested.
amp88
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Quote from DANIEL-CRO :But when you turn off engine, it still rotates (there is still link between engine and wheels) therefore it should start

No, this is not accurate. The clutch disengages, cutting the direct connection from the engine to the drivetrain. With the engine off the control of the clutch isn't possible (hence why I mentioned the electro-hydraulic control systems above). If there was always a direct connection between the engine and the drivetrain the momentum/inertia of the spinning tyres would be overcome by the engine compression and the rear tyres would lock solid. You can see this happen if a transmission problem occurs which locks a car in gear.
amp88
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Well, the actuation mechanisms for the transmission (including the clutch) are electro-hydraulically driven. This article is from 2003, but I don't think there were significant developments in the control systems of the clutch between then and when the BF1 was designed. When the engine stops running the hydraulic pressure bleeds away and the electricity supply is cut. This would mean that the driver wouldn't be able to actuate the clutch or transmission (i.e. pulling the clutch paddle(s) or shift paddles behind the steering wheel wouldn't actually do anything useful). Before the move to semi-automatic gearboxes with electro-hydraulically operated clutches F1 cars could be "bump-started" (as Ayrton Senna showed when rejoining the 1989 Japanese GP after that collision with Prost).
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amp88
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Quote from DeKo :Potential next Pres. ****.


Washington, September 26 (ANI): Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney lamented the fact that airplane windows don't roll down after wife Ann's plane had to make an emergency landing Friday because of an electrical malfunction.

Discussing the incident at a fundraiser the next day, he said: "When you have a fire in an aircraft, there's no place to go, exactly, there's no-and you can't find any oxygen from outside the aircraft to get in the aircraft, because the windows don't open. I don't know why they don't do that. It's a real problem. So it's very dangerous."

Although I find it reprehensible to defend Romney, the above was clearly a (poorly timed and delivered) joke. If you see the footage of it you'd see that. There are numerous genuine reasons to have a high degree of contempt and distaste for Romney; there's no need to go about trying to take jokes seriously to make a point.
amp88
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Quote from Hyperactive :Well maybe the word cut is a bit too harsh but almost everybody went very deep in that corner.

I was clearly talking about people who were driving outside the track with all 4 tyres and gaining an advantage by doing so (which is why I contrasted Massa's driving with Webber's). Putting 2 wheels over the white line is absolutely fine; that doesn't count as leaving the track.

Quote from Hyperactive :When I was watching I think everyone who drove through that corner drove straight over the kerb so that their car was barely within the white lines.

The car is either within the white lines or isn't. It doesn't matter how close people went.

Quote from Hyperactive :Anyways, here's maldonado's quali lap:
http://www.formula1.com/video/onboard/

Still has 2 tyres inside the lines.

Quote from Hyperactive :Some drivers like Vettel for example went much deeper all the time during the race.

Obviously I didn't watch the entire race checking for Vettel driving outside the white lines, but I didn't see him doing it with all 4 wheels over the white line even once. If you give me a lap number I'm happy to take another look.
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amp88
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Quote from DieKolkrabe :Remember F1? They went through a turn very, very similar for several years with only Mika's bad crash in 95

No, it was not very similar. With the current layout (used for V8 Supercars and several other categories) there is a solid row of concrete barriers on the outside of the turn literally centimetres away from the normal racing line. The approach speed for the turn (in V8 Supercars) is approximately 240 kph (~150mph). Any car problem (broken steering, stuck throttle, suspension failure) and you're heading straight into that wall. In F1 (in the corner where Hakkinen crashed) there was a run-off area (albeit over a badly-placed kerb) of 20-30 metres and a row of tyres. See this for F1 reference and this for the current version.

For this turn, the only sensible option (given that they are reluctant to move the wall back) is to use safer barriers.
amp88
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Quote from Hyperactive :I think every driver cut that 2nd corner of that chicane almost all the time...

Obviously you were trying for hyperbole there, but could you give a few examples?
amp88
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Quote from amp88 :Unless anyone else can post pics I'll try and find some more tomorrow.

Few more frames attached. The first image shows Massa cutting 4 times.

The second image is a look at the Webber/Kobayashi overtake. I chose the high camera shot over the low trackside shot to give better perspective of car positions. Webber is making a valid attempt at going round the outside in order to have track position for the next left hander. He is only forced off track when Kobayashi pushed him there. Note that Kobayashi's right rear wheel is on the white line and the car is also sideways by a few degrees.

I've agreed with the vast majority of the stewards' decisions this season, but I just cannot understand why Massa escaped a penalty and Webber got hit with one on this occasion.
amp88
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Quote from Mysho :He was never crossing the white line with all 4 wheels and he has proven that he's TEH racer. I don't see the point for a DT.

Yes, he was.



I also believe he cut another once or twice during the race, but I can't find any images online of those. Unless anyone else can post pics I'll try and find some more tomorrow.

On the subject of Webber's penalty I'm very surprised at the verdict given that he was effectively pushed off track by Kobayashi. Webber was trying to go round the outside, sure, but he was in a position to do so at corner entry and at the apex.
amp88
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Are you running LFS in full-screen or windowed mode? If you're running in windowed mode you could be moving the mouse outside the LFS window, where clicking would make LFS lose focus.
amp88
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<SPOILER WARNING>

The following video is the second qualifying sprint race for last weekend's Sandown 500 round of the V8 Supercars championship. If you don't know or don't want to know any of the qualifying results for the weekend don't watch this.

With that out of the way, click and enjoy what must be one of the best sprint races I've ever seen.

V8 Supercars 2012 Sandown 500 Qualifying Sprint Race 2
amp88
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Quote from Matrixi :Did some backside cable management on mine.

Nice job, very neat and tidy.
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Quote from Krammeh :Maybe remove the ability for a non-admin to remove anybody from the grid entirely? Or at least a server option.

Ordinary users being able to remove drivers who haven't "readied up" for an online race is a good reason not to restrict access to admins only, as I noted here a while ago.
amp88
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There are a multitude of reasons to have been in awe of him and his achievements. However, the one that's stuck with me most of all is him saving Mika Hakkinen's life in Adelaide 1995 by performing an emergency tracheotomy trackside. Without Mika late '90s F1 would have been the start of Schumacher's Ferrari domination, rather than from 2000 onwards.

He's gone, but his legacy lives on.
amp88
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Quote from Matrixi :Double clutching is only for shifting up, rev matching is for shifting down.

Not true. Double-clutch shifting can be done both on upshifts and downshifts. The following quote is from Ross Bentley's shifty techniques BMW driving instruction article:

Quote from Ross Bentley :What is double-clutching? Basically, it is where a driver depresses and releases the clutch twice for each shift. It can be used for either upshifting or downshifting, but generally only for downshifting.

Bentley has written extensively on race driving and performance road driving and has decades experience as a racing driver. I'm inclined to believe he knows what he's talking about.

Of course, double clutch shifting (on the up- and downshifts) is either necessary or very beneficial on the life of the drivetrain in vehicles without synchromesh, but it can still be useful on cars with synchromesh, especially if the synchros are worn, as Bentley notes:

Quote from Ross Bentley :That's why I say it is unnecessary to double-clutch [on cars with synchromesh]. But, if the syncros in your car's transmission are beginning to wear out, doubleclutching can extend their life a little longer and make it easier to get it into gear.

amp88
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Found that relatively funny!
amp88
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You're just going to ignore my post above then, Mike?

Quote from flymike91 :I think the percentage of millionaires in a country is pretty relevant to their economic success, as well as the policies that make that kind of wealth concentration possible.

An indicator that's much more significant is median income. Taking both the median income and the percentage of millionaires in conjunction is even better. When you look at these in tandem it's particularly easy to analyse the massive disparity in pay between the top few percent and everyone else. Have a read up on income inequality in the US. Cherry picking a single statistic which includes a very small percentage of the population (i.e. % of millionaires) and attempting to use it as widely representative is misleading, intentionally or otherwise. The American Dream might be becoming a millionaire, but the American reality is that the vast majority of the population know they'll never become millionaires. They just want to know they can get through life without worrying how to pay for necessities like food, housing and medical care.

Quote from flymike91 :Business in Singapore is less regulated than the US and Europe and the result shows in its international rankings. The results of our debilitating regulations on medium to small businesses, which are not just financial but also attempt to control almost every aspect of its function, show in our rapidly falling international rankings. Here, small businesses spend so much time and money conforming to government regulations, yet even so someone could come in and sue them for a handicapped bathroom stall that is an inch too narrow.

Can you demonstrate a direct causal relationship between regulatory compliance costs and significant drop in the survival rates or profitability of medium and small businesses, which takes into account other factors such as the global financial crisis and recession?

Quote from flymike91 :Leftists love regulations like these and make them all the time. California is a prime example of a state legislature that churns out hundreds of new laws every session. They can barely function anymore due to the sheer weight of the bureaucrats on their shoulders.

Let's not forget George Bush senior signed the ADA into law. What percentage of the resources of the Californian state legislature are devoted to ADA compliance regulations? It would be interesting to compare that figure with other issues such as the percentage of resources of law enforcement and the prison system that go into policing and housing 'offenders' involved with recreational drug use. With 57% of federal prisoners sentenced for drug offences and the the highest documented incarce ... per 100,000 (as of 2009) there are more significant problems in the system than disability compliance costs.
amp88
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Quote from BlueFlame :For a study like that to be effective they should monitor those peoples conversations etc, not ask them "is your country racist". If they are all racist they aren't going to consider themselves racist as they consider their ideal to be a correct one.

Basically the question was "Is your social/political idea wrong." and if they believe in it, which most of them do they're not going to agree with that question are they?

Did you even read the first section of the report? The question for the results I quoted was as follows:

Quote from Eurobarometer :Some people feel they are not at all racist. Others feel they are very racist. Would you look at this card and give me the number that shows your own feelings about this? [my emphasis] If you feel you are not at all racist, you give a score of 1. If you feel you are very racist, you give a score of 10. The scores between 1 and 10 allow you to say how close to either side you are.

That is to say that the respondents were directly asked how racist they thought they were. How you manage to try and twist this into something entirely different is beyond me. Racism is typically considered to be a bad thing (except by those who seem to wear it as a badge of honour). If anything, the percentage of respondents who admit they consider themselves to be racist should be lower, not higher than reality. Unless, of course, you're suggesting that not only are Italians exceptionally racist they're also exceptionally dishonest when replying to questionnaires...

Quote from BlueFlame :There's actually no way to prove ANY thought process or ideology between humans, as there are too many variables to quantify a legitimately correct factual study it's always going to be vague.

Asking direct questions to over 16,000 people seems like a reasonably sound methodology, at least to me. I don't really understand why you're trying to apply some sort of metaphysical layer here, as though nothing anyone ever says is factual.

Quote from BlueFlame :So you have more chance of being correct by generalizing negatively or positively, and I have never ever known an Italian not be racist so I decided to generalize negatively.

I just don't know how to respond to this. You have more chance of being correct by generalising? Really? Can you even try to defend that particular piece of 'logic'? To me, it's just stunning that you would say this and expect it to be taken as read.

Quote from BlueFlame :I'm not going to speak with over 50 Italians and then assume that my experience counts for jack shit, and that the Italian population are left wing and it just so happened by coincidence that every Italian I ever have spoken too was a racist, be it mild or strong.

Couple of problems with this. Firstly, no-one knows where you pulled this "over 50" figure from. For all I/we know it could be a complete fabrication. Secondly, and I don't want this to be taken as needlessly offensive, but you fairly consistently express views that would be considered right wing. Ever thought that it's the company you keep that skews your 'results' to the right? As an example, I'm pretty sure if I went to a BNP meeting and interviewed everyone leaving I would find a large percentage of respondents were Islamophobic.
amp88
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Quote from BlueFlame :Italians are racist, it's nothing short of a fact.

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There are racist/xenophobic people in every country with any kind of real population (qualified that remark so someone wouldn't find an uninhabited island that's technically a country and entirely disprove my point). It's no doubt true that you can find instances of clearly racist/xenophobic violence (even including murder) perpetrated by Italians, but you can do that for basically every country. Can you prove that Italians are, on average, more racist/xenophobic compared to other countries in Europe or the rest of the world? Can you demonstrate they have any influence on the hiring policy of Ferrari? Making such an idiotic generalisation as saying "Italians are racist" and claiming it's a fact is one of the more ridiculous things you've said.

If you look at this Eurobarometer special report on racism and xenophobia released in 1997 you'll see that Italy appears basically in the middle of EU member states. 30% of Italians described themselves as "Very racist" or "Quite racist", compared to 32% in the UK, 35% in Finland, 42% in Austria, 31% in the Netherlands, 48% in France, 34% in Germany, 43% in Denmark and 55% in Belgium.
amp88
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Quote from PMD9409 :Now to convince league admins here that it is possible in real life too.

IRL there are no lag hits
amp88
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Quote from Intrepid :If you think that the banks and what they did are a product of a libertarian/free-market system then you have no idea what Libertarianism stands for.

Can you link to some articles to re-educate me?

If government regulation isn't a major aspect of helping to prevent a future financial crisis, why would the Chairman of the US Federal Reserve say so?

History provides so many examples of situations where people are willing to effectively destroy the lives of millions of people in order to make vast sums of money. Just look at how many people either entirely lost their pension or lost significant portions. Do you think it's right for a financial institution to be able to gamble on the market with the pension fund of hundreds of thousands of people and suffer very little to no penalties if they lose everything?
amp88
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Given the aggressiveness of the kerbs and the sleeping policemen in the run-off areas I could believe an ARB failure. A broken or fractured ARB blade or mount isn't the same thing as the team making an error in fitting it.
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Quote from flymike91 :Great journalism.

Better than the journalism which alludes to certain aspects such as birth certificates and Muslim-sounding names though, right? Wonder who's guilty of those things...

The Rolling Stone article does sound like a hatchet job, but it's so well researched that the tone of the article is much less important than its content. If you can only argue with the tone (and not with the content), I think you've already lost the battle.

Quote from flymike91 :I don't believe that Romney's policy will be to rack up more debt in order to spend us out of bankruptcy.

The spending cuts necessary in the Ryan budget plan are ludicrous. The notion that discretionary spending can be cut by 91% on average and taxes on the rich can be decreased and you can still have a workable economy just beggar belief.

Quote from flymike91 :I don't understand the assumption that he will run the government exactly like Bain Capitol.

I didn't suggest that (and the Rolling Stone article doesn't either). The wider point is that a large portion of Romney's suitability for the job is that he was a successful businessman. The Republicans constantly harp on this and contrast it with Obama's lack of private business management experience (see the lemonade stand quote). However, when you analyse Romney's business career (as in the Rolling Stone article), you see a pattern of reckless behaviour which made him (and his cronies) massive amounts of money whilst making thousands of people redundant in the process. This disgraceful misrepresentation of the facts (along with other massive problems with the truth, such as Ryan's convention speech (which contained so many inaccuracies and straight lies)) seems to be necessary from the Republicans to try and hide the glaring holes in their platform. Of course, I'm not for one minute suggesting that the Democrats never lie, but let's just say that the speeches of the Democrats cause less problems for fact-checkers than Republicans. Ryan might like to fix his truth-deficit before he screws up the country's economic deficit even more.

Quote from flymike91 :Then again, there are some similarities. There are thousands of bureaucrats in Washington and around the nation that need to be fired, federal and state employees whose wages are artificially inflated

Isn't there a better solution than firing these thousands of people, though? Vast sums of money have already been spent training them. It would be a better idea to try and overhaul the services. One example would be performance related pay for public school teachers.

Quote from flymike91 :living within your means shouldn't be so hard when the government takes in more revenue per year than any other country (almost as much as the next two richest countries, Japan and Germany, combined). We just need to be smarter about where we spend our money.

US defence spending should surely be put on the table here, considering it was approximately 20% of GDP in 2010. In 2012, the US are spending approximately double the world average of GDP on defence. (4.7% vs 2.5%). The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan undoubtedly added trillions of dollars to the national debt, too. Don't you despair at these huge problems more than a few thousand teachers and nurses whom you think are overpaid?

Quote from flymike91 :We have experimented with socialist policies in the US and it wasn't good.

You don't think the police, fire, ambulance, coastguard, roads department etc have been good things? They are funded in a 'socialist' fashion, right? The public pays taxes into them and they're available for everyone. They're all failures? Or the fact that whilst Obama has been in office tens of millions more Americans have access to publicly-funded healthcare?

Quote from flymike91 :I would like to see us now experiment with libertarian policies.

Yes, because de-regulating markets has been so successful in the last few years, hasn't it? The people should be protected against the greed of the financial institutions trying to exploit them and from the greed of other members of the public who over-extend themselves financially.

Quote from flymike91 :I am only afraid some people in the US are so conditioned towards taking handouts from taxpayers...

...as Paul Ryan did...

Quote from flymike91 :...rather than supporting themselves that they would rather riot in the streets than become functioning members of our economy.

You think people rioting in the streets who are trying to foment change (such as the Occupy movement) are actually against the interests of the public? If so, you're even more detached from the real world than the Republican leaders.

Quote from flymike91 :Either way, people who choose not to contribute can no longer be coddled like they are in Europe.

How evil are the people who 'choose' not to contribute compared to the people who wilfully drive businesses into the ground to profit from their demise (such as Romney)?

Quote from flymike91 :We can see how well that has worked with entire countries functioning off welfare checks from Germany.

Entire countries?

edit: There's a difference between countries staying afloat with bailout assistance and 'functioning off' bailouts. Incidentally, what is your stance on the banking and auto-industry bailouts in the US?
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amp88
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Quote from flymike91 :They hire consultants like Bain to examine their structure and tell them what to do to make more money.

That's not exactly the same way Rolling Stone sees it.
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Quote from flymike91 :Here is the poll I was quoting.

From the same poll:
  • 48% never attend mosques, 19% attended once and 6% only attend on special occasions
  • 38% indicate that they belong to both Britain and Islam 'very strongly'
  • 81% strongly disagree that Muslims should keep themselves separate from non-Muslims
  • 70% would rather stay in Britain (without Sharia law) than move to another country with Sharia law
  • 63% feel that hostility towards Muslims has increased (significantly or slightly) since 7/7
  • 80% can't understand why British Muslims might want to carry out suicide operations
  • 85% disagree that it is acceptable for religious or political groups to use violence
  • No one group got more than 19% support when asked who represented Muslims politically. This speaks to disenfranchisement.
  • 49% would allow their daughter to make up her own mind on wearing a hijab. This doesn't seem particularly high, but it speaks towards a more progressive movement amongst British Muslims
I would agree with (at least to an extent) that the 30% support for Sharia law (along with the other findings you have quoted) is worrying, but it should be contrasted with those above. It would have been interesting to discover what the people questioned thought towards the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and the very strong support for Israel from the US. There also seems to be a certain degree of disenfranchisement (as I noted above) in some of the answers. When people feel they are not connected to local/national politics they are generally going to take a dimmer view towards their country and its policies (just look at the domestic support for the US administrations during the Vietnam war).

Additionally, a sample size of only 1000 seems fairly low, especially considering the poll attempts to look at patterns among Muslims in different parts of the UK.
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