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amp88
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Quote from Zipppy :true that, I've seen races that cars jumped off the grass parts.

A couple of examples of the grass/track surrounds not playing ball:

Grand Am Series 2012 Barber Po ... Pew gets stuck in the mud (from the onboard it's especially violent)
and
Joey Hand @ Mid Ohio
amp88
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Schlegelmilch Photography is probably one of the best sources for the kind of images you're looking for. There are thousands of F1/Sportscar/CanAm etc shots available. The publicly viewable images are typically quite low-res, but they should provide you with some inspiration anyway. Here is the entry point. Have a look through some of the years.

Here is a list of 'street' circuits, though it doesn't appear as though you can filter by year.

Another thing you can do is to Google image search for things like "Watkins Glen 1966" and check out the sites for particular photos. You'll sometimes find a Flickr set or a Blogspot page that has many similar images.
amp88
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Quote from PoVo :How the hell is the "rotation speed of the hdd" slower if my Caviar Green HDD says 7,200 RPM?

Where are you reading it's a 7200rpm drive?
amp88
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Quote from Impreza09 :Hmmm? It's a 7400 rpm. There were three models, blue red and green. But only green were available... I dont really get what the colours mean. What I know is that my old hard disk had 5200 approx, and this is much faster.

A typo there on the 7400rpm, I can only assume. Current generation 'green' drives will be faster than older 'performance' (e.g. 7200rpm, 10000rpm) drives because of improvements in areal density and caching. However, a 'green' drive and a 'performance' drive from the same generation and with the same or similar platters and caching will be slower due to the difference in rotation speed.

Quote from three_jump :I haven't looked at the price difference, but I think the 5400 drivers should be cheaper.

Anyway, I guess it depends on what you want to do with the drive, if it's just for storing music / videos etc. than a slower drive is just fine. If you need performance you should get a faster one. Btw, don't most consumer notebooks come with a 5400 rpm drive? (At least mine did)

Quote from Ni-san :"Green" drives are cheaper per capacity. That's why I buy them unless something else is necessarily, like if I plan to put them in a RAID for a server, which can work bad on cheaper disks that aren't made for it. Unless I want performance, a green drive is fine enough. If I want performance, I'd buy a smaller and faster drive.

There used to be a much larger gap in price between 'green' and 'performance' drives. For example, when I bought some Hitachi 5K3000 'green' drives they were a little over £60, with the closest 'performance' drives being around £85-90. When there's such a large gap between them the case for 'green' drives was much stronger (as I noted earlier). However, in the last year or so, the gap between them has closed. For example, a WD 3TB Caviar Green is currently £133.92 versus a WD 3TB Black on £147.84. It's also worth noting there that the Black drive has a 5 year warranty versus the 2 years on the Green. The difference between Seagate drives is under £1 at the moment for 2TB capacity: 'green' vs 'performance'. If all the drive needs to do is to supply long-term storage then you might still feel it's worth the slight cost reduction, but the gap between 'green' and 'performance' generally isn't as large as it used to be.
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amp88
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Quote from PoVo :No it's not.

Yeah, it pretty much is. There are some ~5900rpm 'green' drives (e.g. the Htachi 5K3000 CoolSpin), but mostly 'green' just means somewhere between 5400-5900rpm with significant penalties in sequential and, particularly, random performance (compared to similar platter drives at ~7200rpm) with practically no real reduction in energy usage. Seagate announced they were going to stop selling 'green' drives for those reasons. When there used to be a large price difference between 'normal' and 'green' drives they made more sense, but recently the prices have started to converge, so they're making less and less sense. I own a number of 'green' drives, btw, bought in the last couple of years. Incidentally, I had a number of failures on 1.5TB WD Greens and I finally got an upgrade to a 1.5TB WD Black free of charge because of the incredibly high failure rate for that generation of 'green' drives.
amp88
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Quote from englishlord :If we're going to quote rules

Hence why I gave Maldonado 25% of the blame.

Quote from PMD9409 :On entry sure, but after that he was not even with him at all, he was falling back in fact throughout the corner.

At the first apex (frame 2) the front wheels are almost alongside each other. In frame 3 (after the first apex), Maldonado's front right wheel is a little behind Hamilton's (difficult to tell exactly from the image, but call it half a metre or so). In frame 4 (when Hamilton has almost pushed him off the track), Maldonado's front wheel is still around half a metre behind Hamilton's. Do you really consider ~0.5 metres being "not with him at all"? Also, the rate at which Maldonado was falling back is debatable. Even after Maldonado has been off track and rejoins (frame 6) his front wheel is still level with Hamilton's engine cover, slightly behind the roll hoop. Compare this progression to the Raikkonen/Hamilton incident and you should see a large difference.

Quote from PMD9409 :So Lewis breaks no rule, and Maldonado does, therefore by FIA ruling Maldonado is at fault.

I already acknowledged Maldonado broke the rules, but I think Hamilton's driving should be considered as being outside the rules too.

Quote from PMD9409 :Unless you simply don't like him, which would also make sense.

I don't like Hamilton (for a number of reasons), but that isn't informing my opinions of these incidents. For example, at India last year I gave Massa all the blame for running into Hamilton. I don't just blame Hamilton in every incident he's involved in.
amp88
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Quote from PMD9409 :Yes, 20.3:

That's for straights and entering corners. That has nothing to do with exiting a corner as the racing line has changed twice (outside to inside, inside to outside), therefore the rule cannot simply be used in that way.

It's difficult to credit the notion that someone is protected on the outside on the approach then when they turn into the corner the driver on the inside can drive them off the track. I don't think that's what the rule is, and I don't think you do either.

Quote from PMD9409 :In that same article it says:

Quote :In practice, that means that unless the following driver is right alongside him, the leading driver has the right to use all the road.

It's a grey area, either make a rule for it or you must let it slide.

Maldonado was about as right alongside as you can get before he was driven off the road.
amp88
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Quote from PMD9409 :1) Corner exceptions are not in the rules.
2) See above
3) Of course, morally it was stupid but by the rules he did nothing wrong.

Rules are rules, I don't agree with the whole "pushing the car off track" thing but that is allowed by the rules. If Lewis would have tried to make the chicane at Spa there would have been contact and it would have been Lewis' fault. Lewis in a way got what he deserved for running Maldonado off like that, but Maldonado still gets the blame for breaking the rules.

I hadn't mentioned the rules yet, but I'm glad you did. There was a clarification to the 'one move' rule before the start of the season this year. This article does a nice summary:

Quote from GrandPrix.com :What this means in practice is that if, for example, a driver defends the inside on the run into to a right-hand corner and then heads back left to take up the racing line on the approach to the corner, the overtaking driver who is being made 'to go the long way round' should in theory be able to keep his boot in and try to complete the move, safe in the knowledge that he will not be driven off the road.

Given this interpretation it's difficult not to find Hamilton in breech of the rules, too, for running Maldonado off track. I'm interested why this is the case, as, I'm sure, are a number of other people. The rule explicitly states "on the approach to the corner", but it makes no sense to be able to drive someone off the track after the approach to the corner.
amp88
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Quote from PMD9409 :1. Who cares, and it was Grosjean.
2. Kimi was ahead at Spa, Lewis was ahead at Valencia. Virtually and almost means nothing.
3. Who cares? Rules doesn't say anything about bad tires and letting people by.

1. The corner shapes at Spa make the outside move much more difficult, because of the tighter second part. That's why you would need more overlap (speaks to point 2) because you need to slow more when taking the tigher radius inside line into the second apex
2. See above.
3. I didn't say the rules said anything, but Hamilton's much poorer tyre condition meant that Maldonado was more able (in conjunction with point 1) to pull the outside pass, in comparison to Spa.
amp88
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Quote from PMD9409 :Yet you show hypocrisy yourself amp?

So you go with Kimi when he does it, but go against Hamilton when he does it?

I was thinking about including this in my post, but I wanted someone to actually do the work. Surely you don't think I would fall for that trap

Although they were similar, let's look at the differences:

1. Very few passes have been made round the outside of the revised bus stop at Spa. We already saw people overtaking round the outside of that corner in the race yesterday. Hamilton himself was overtaken earlier. I forget by whom, but he was.
2. Hamilton, in the move against Raikkonen, was not in as good a position as Maldonado was after the first apex. Take a look at this image and you can see that Maldonado has almost his full car alongside Hamilton after the first apex. When Hamilton runs him off the track (between the 4th and 5th frames), Maldonado's front wheels are virtually alongside Hamilton's. In the Spa incident Hamilton is only half alongside Raikkonen just after the first apex and continuing to slide back. When Hamilton finally commits to cutting the corner his front tyres are alongside Raikkonen's rears. Check out the attached image.
3. Tyre condition in the race yesterday was a large factor; at Spa tyre condition was not a factor.
amp88
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Does anyone have the time/patience to go through the Spa 2008 thread and compare opinions about the Raikkonen/Hamilton incident in that race with the Hamilton/Maldonado incident in this race?

Anyway, let's look at what Hamilton said after the 2008 race, when Raikkonen squeezed him off track from a very similar position in comparison to the Hamilton/Maldonado incident:

Quote from Lewis Hamilton :Kimi left me no room, I didn't want to crash and had no choice but to go over the kerbs.

Source

So, when it gets done to Hamilton it's because the other driver gave him no room. When Hamilton does it it's fair because "You never let people past, you've got to race for every position you can get." Then he refuses to go into more detail because he 'doesn't remember' what happened.

This is another incident showing the hypocrisy of his words and actions.

Anyway, I can only agree with the other people who have suggested Hamilton should have let Maldonado through and tried to make it home without losing more positions. I would give 75/25% blame for Hamilton/Maldonado. 75% to Hamilton for running Maldonado off track and 25% to Maldonado for rejoining from off-track rather than cutting through the run-off area and rejoining to try and pass later in the lap.
amp88
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Quote from Speed Senna :Okay, then useless to search good quality LFS hardwares

Not necessarily. Have you tried looking at Frex, for example?
amp88
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When you skip forward in a replay (using the timeline at the bottom of the screen) what happens is that all of the inputs saved in the replay are processed but the graphics are not updated. This is the reason why it can sometimes take a long time to skip through a replay. For a long replay with a high number of cars (e.g. a 1 hour race with 25 cars) it could take a significant amount of time (10+ seconds) to skip from near the start to near the end of the race, even on a relatively powerful machine. The longer the skip duration and the more cars on track the longer it's going to take. Try skipping through to near the end of a packed 24 hour race and you should be prepared for a long wait.

I realise this doesn't really help the OP, but maybe the explanation will soothe his pain.

edit: I just did a quick test. To skip from the start to the end of a 24 hour race with 27/28 drivers it took me approximately 135 seconds. I'm using a Q9450 and the LFS process was using 25% CPU the entire time, so it pegged one of the quad cores and was entirely CPU limited. This is obviously an extreme example; normal skipping shouldn't take anywhere near as long.
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amp88
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Quote from NotAnIllusion :But will it work if you unlock once as admin and then use with a normal user account?

I don't know, but even if it did you would run into problems with more functionality (such as saving setups and downloading skins) which requires write permission in the LFS directory.
amp88
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What Operating System are you running and where did you install LFS on your machine?

If you're running a Windows version with UAC (e.g. Vista or 7) and you installed to "Program Files" then running LFS normally will mean you don't have write permission to the LFS folder. That means an unlock won't "stick" because it can't be written to the file system. There are 2 solutions: Run LFS as an administrator (not recommended) or move/re-install LFS to a 'safe' location where you have write permissions even as an ordinary user (e.g. C:/Games/LFS).
amp88
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Low quality cap from BBC Forum stream of the Williams smoke. Seemingly under control now.

edit: BBC reporting the fire was caused by a KERS explosion and that there are injuries but no more information.
amp88
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Quote from englishlord :Yes.

One word: Karthikeyan.
amp88
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My first slice of Pi arrived this morning
amp88
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Quote from Si Mclaren :Also, just to remember: Movies, both on cinemas or Youtube, are just 24 FPS...

That may be the case for the moment, but it won't be for long. Many directors and executives are moving or wanting to move to 48fps or higher.
amp88
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Quote from N I K I :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQjatim16_k
is that the one? Perhaps people will know there more. Quite a cool track.

No, that isn't it. I've tried using Tunatic to try and identify it, but it's too short and there's too much engine noise and commentary over it to get anywhere. The voice sounds a bit like Norah Jones. I've cut and uploaded the usable audio to this post, so if anyone feels like trying to identify it I'd appreciate that. Thanks.

edit: Thanks to Niall on LFS. The answer was Adrian Lux - Teenage Crime.
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amp88
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Hi, all. I've got a question about some of the music that was used during the qualifying for race 3 at Barbgallo today (the soft tyre session). When they came back from the break with about 6:30 left in the session and Garth Tander on screen does anyone know what music was playing? There was a guitar and hand claps and a girl just started to sing something that sounded like "Real secret Sunday" as White was talking over it and it got cut off. Any help in ID'ing the track would be greatly appreciated, thanks.
amp88
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Quote from bmwe30m3 :Matrixi, Will take a lot of time until you actually get it.

Not necessarily. There are already a couple of thousand "in the wild" and there are scheduled to be several thousand more out before the end of May. My first should arrive in the next 7-14 days.
amp88
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I've never used it myself, but you could look into Musicbrainz Picard. There's an iTunes Guide on the Wiki that might help.
amp88
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Quote from Shotglass :when will you people finally learn that ip bans are completely and utterly useless in a world where most internet connections run dynamic ips?

If the server owner/admin is willing to take the 'collateral damage' that comes from banning an IP range (after discerning if a practical one can be applied, of course) then that's up to them. If, for example, a user connects to the server 5 times with different IPs whose last octet differs by, at most, 25 digits a temporary ban of that range might be appropriate.
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