ok thats cool, thanks a lot.

the blank rcm only overrides wrong direction as far as i can see, so blue flag and yellow will be available still... thats cool

lately i was on a cruise-server and found out, they do not have "wrong direction" messages. how is this possible. i need this information for a league race.

thanks for helping!

great thing! i have a lot of crashes from LFSCAR you can make videos on a daily basis with! great stuff!


from my point of view and as a league admins view, i would blame either B or C for it. as far as i can see from the video (a heli view of the whole incedent would be great) i would say its Bs fault for not watching the mirrors.

the a car is just a victim and the c car used his right to start a overtaking where he had noone in front of him until the B car closed the door with no reason...

Last edited by Fischfix, Thu, 12 Jul 2007 23:07.

i KNOW this track )


i've seen the pilot! GREAT i have a lot of crashes from LFSCAR you can make videos on a daily basis with! great stuff!

Last edited by Fischfix, Thu, 12 Jul 2007 22:55.

i've given that bug report some time ago during the test patches... looks like it hasn't been fixed.

allthough i think it is cool for autocross designers, so you can see where the actual starting positions are...

helps a lot ...

by the way, you could make a path by yourself for the AI... if you can )

i've heard some birds singing this two patches ago... but still NADA

maybe with Z i hope so too

booked

zürich - barcelona
barcelona - zürich

Last edited by Fischfix, Thu, 12 Jul 2007 19:21.

this is really interesting: everytime we get an addition to the game, which brings the game more to realism people like it. or in other words. everytime someone suggesting something which is arcady, people go mad on his back.

NOW with the forced view, everything is totally different.

however i don't like the idea forcing people to use a specific kind of view. what's next? force people to use a clutch-pedal? or an lfs-certified steering wheel?

i have a crazy idea for a new insim mod. make it like a game, where you can select a car and a track. and then you can race online with other people... no wait...

yep, i would not mind to start it earlier of course if we are going for the 360 laps...

As you all know the final race of the LFSCAR 360degree.tk Cup Series will be the Kyoto 360°. In season 1, the race lasted for 360 Laps. At the start of season 2 i reduced the lenth to 190 laps which is 360 miles.

In the meantime, i got several requrests from drivers inside the series, to make it 360 laps as well, so the race will be "the big one".

the poll will be finished 2 weeks before the race, and i will give out the actual race length by then.

Last edited by Fischfix, Sun, 8 Jul 2007 19:58.

i could not do anything about it. as i was on the server, and as you can see in the results the otheres were on the server as well...

sorry, but ask the devs about that...

the server wasn't down

car editing was possible, and was taken out again for several reasons.

modding has been mentioned a quadrillion of times the devs are not going to make any attempts to make this happen (sadly) but also understandable, as the game has no final aeromodel (deforming parts do not have any effect on the power or driveability of a car)

i wish modding and stuff would be possible with this game, but it won't happen (because not only the devs don't want it, but also lots of narrow minded people in lfs don't want it. and they'll fight against it until the bitter end...)

FINISHED RACE REPORT

Race Report Qualifying
=======================================================

• to go | Involved cars | Actions | Peanlty For Car #

• 17m30s | #666 | Goes reverse in pitlane | Warning For #666

• 11m40s | #9, #22s | #22s bumpdrafts #9, no „top 50% of the grid“ bonus for both drivers | -5pts For #22s

• 9m40s | #0, #8, #14 | #8 hits #0 after chicane. #0, #14 crash out, #8 keep on going | -5pts For #8

Race Report (20 laper)
=======================================================
Lap | Involved Cars | Actions

• Lap 0 | #028 | Put on wrong starting position, should be 17th is 23rd gets a 1pt bonus | +1 pts. For #028

• Lap 0 | #007 | No big number on the roof, wrong number on car | Warning For #007

• Lap 0 | #68 | No big number on the roof | Warning For #068

• Lap 0 | #22s | Started under wrong number because of some misunderstanding | Warning For #22s

• Lap 0 | #7s | Started under wrong number because of some misunderstanding | Warning For #7s

• Lap 0 | #666 | Did not turn up on start

• Lap 0 | #3, #79 | #3 lost control over his car, hits wall and was way too fast for slow cars in front, hit #79 in the rear with over 180km/h | -10 pts. For #3

• Lap 1 | #9, #55 | #55 overtook #9 before Green Flag | -10 pts. For #55

• Lap 1 | #44, #66 | #44 overtook #66 under Green Flag | -10 pts. For #44

• Lap 2 | #007 | #007 lose control while tire-heating and crashes out, takes his place back

• Lap 2 | #55, #74 | #74 bumps rear of #55, both slide, #74 goes into the wall, racing accident

• Lap 2 | #9, #11, #55, #74 | #55 braked before chicane, #74 lifted but bumped #55 a bit, #55 starts to slide and hits #9 and passing #11, causes Caution #1, racing accident

• Lap 2 | #55, #455 | #455 hits stationarry #55, result of the crash before

• Lap 2 | #44 | #44 hits bales on the left at the chicane, slides off the track

CAUTION #1 STARTS

• Lap 5 | #445 | Is lucky dog

• Lap 6 | #3, #028, #68 | #028 too close to #3 under caution, both start to slide, #3 hits #68 when sliding back on track | -5 pts. For #028

• Lap 6 | #028, #55 | #028 too fast (over 160km/h) during caution, hits #55 | -5 pts. For #028
  
• Lap 6 | #0, #18 | Riding Brakes under Caution | -5 for #0. #18

CAUTION #1 ENDS

• Lap 7 | #0, #3, #74, #11 | #74 tries to overtake #0 on the outside on the kink of start finish and starts to slide, hits #0 car which flipps over, causing Caution #2 | -5 pts. For #74

• Lap 7 | #0, #11, #3 | #11 hits flipping car #0, #11 slides into #3

CAUTION #2 STARTS

• Lap 8 | #3, #11 | #3 and #11 get contact when passing the chicane, #11 gets crashed out while trying to overtake during caution | |

• Lap 8 | #44, #68 | #44 bumps #68 while going through the grass under caution, #68 spins out | -5 pts. For #44

• Lap 9 | #0, Pacecar, #42,... | Big pile-up causing a RED-Flag situation, all cars have to stop.

• The cause of this pile-up lies in the responsibility of the pacecar driver. The pacecar went ON the track and did not speed up, and stayed at 40km/h. | |
  
  
• There was no input (steering, padels) from the pacecar what so ever until it got hit. I am not sure if this was a lag problem or a hardware disfunction, Or a problem of the pacecar-driver himself falling asleep. Normaly under a Red-Flag situation the race will be restarted from the connection screen.
  
  
• We decided to go on right from the track. The red-flag situation caused the tires to cool down too much, also the starting „rain“ did the rest.

• LFSCAR won't review all crashes after lap 9 because of the happenings in lap 9.

• After Caution #2, another Caution (Caution #3) was needed which brought racecontrol to the conclusion to abort the race.

• The restart of the race when the „rain“ stopped was set up for a 110 lap race with the grid from before the restart
  
  
• In future races, a red flag situations will automatically lead into a restart of the main race from connection screen.

• If there are less then 10 minutes of race-progress, the race will be restarted with normal racelength and the qualifying grid.
  

• If there are more then 10 minutes done before red flag, the race will be restared with the actual positions of each car when last time passing finish line.and a race-length reduction by the amount of driven laps +10 of the leader. All lappers will be in the lead lap again after a restart.

Race Report 110 Lap Race
==============================

• Lap 0 | Some cars are set to wrong starting position | +1 pts. For #18, #68

• Lap 1 | #11 | #11 does a jump-start, gets drive through penalty by LFS

• Lap 1 | #3, #44 | #3 drives on the side of #44 aproaching the chicane, both spin out after contact | -5 pts. For #3

• Lap 1 | #55, #9 | #55 overtook #9, tried to give back the place before the chicane, after the chicane the green flag came out, so #55 overtook #9 before green flag | -10 pts. For #55

• Lap 3 | #3 | #3 times out

• Lap 7 | #44 | #44 goes on the track in the corner, crossing the yellow line | -2 pts. For #44

• Lap 13 | #028 | #028 crosses yellow line at pit entrance | -2 pts. For #028

• Lap 14 | #0, #74 | #0 hits #74, both spin out, big crash, SHOULD be a caution | -5 pts. For #0

• Lap 14 | #11, #74 | #11 hits stationary #74

• Lap 14 | #0 | #0 (is wreck) Crosses yellow line at pit entrance because no chance to go there earlier because of passing cars

• Lap 15 | #55 | #55 Spins out in T2

• Lap 18 | #44 | #44 goes to spectate

• Lap 22 | #44 | #44 rejoins race
  
  
• Lap 22 | #007, #9, #88, #55 | Several cars go through the grass because #55 on wrong line slows down, #007 passes those cars, gets hit by #88 coming out of the grass hitting the rear end of #007, causing a caution. racing accident. It wasn't the fault of #88 nor #007.

CAUTION #1 STARTS

• Lap 23 | #79, #0, #07s, #8, #42, #38, #91 | #0, #07s, #8, #42, #38, #91 pass #79 under under Caution | -10 pts. For #0, #07s, #8, #38, #42, #91

• Lap 23 | #55 | #55 slows down on start finish straight. Stays there stationary for more then 30 seconds. | -10 pts. For #55

• Lap 25 | #79 | Is lucky dog

• Lap 26 | #11, #44 | #44 hits #11 under Caution causing #11 to spin out | -10 pts. For #44

• Lap 25 | #55 | #55 overtakes several cars including the pacecar under Caution | -10 pts. For #55

• Lap 28 | #11 | Pits in

CAUTION #1 ENDS

• Lap 32 | #11 | #11 lost control before chicane and crashes through chicane, because as he says, popup under windows

• Lap 33 | #0, #42 | #42 starts to slide, #0 hits the rear of #42, racing accident

• Lap 33 | #55, #79, #0, #66 | #55 lost control in T3 because of damaged car

• Lap 33 | #55 | #55 is offensive against the admins and uses offensive languageagainst all other drivers, disconnects | -10 pts. For #55

• Lap 37 | #44 | #44 pits in

• Lap 40 | #44, #18 | #44 crosses yellow line from track to pitext, stays there to get out of way of passing cars,, is very slow at the chicane. #18 could not avoid a crash and hits #44. #18 flipps over has to reset to pits. | -7 pts. For #44
  
• Lap 40 | Several cars request a Caution, admins did not react right on the spot. When the caution came out, there was no need for it
  

Lap 41
CAUTION #2 STARTS

• Admins decide to give out a Caution, the caution only lasts for half a lap though causing some of the cars losing seconds

CAUTION #2 Ends

CAUTION #3 STARTS

• Lap 47 | #9, #455 | #9 lose control in T2 and crashes #455 out | -5 pts. For #9

• Lap 51 | #007, #22s | #007 Is lucky dog, admins say #22 is lucky dog first, they let them both go

• Lap 55 | Green Flag

CAUTION #3 ENDS

• Lap 55 | #18, #79 | Both cars had contact, #18 spins out, #79 continued. Racing accident.

• Lap 57 | #18, #66, #79 | Cars give out a Caution-Request without any reason | Warning For #18, #66, #79

• Lap 60 | #88 | Spins on start finish

• Lap 61 | #66, #79 | Both cars attempt the chicane, #79 is on ideal line, #66 tries to pass and hits #79, #66 spins out and gets stuck on the apex | -5 pts. For #666

Lap 62
CAUTION #4 STARTS

• Lap 62 | #66 | Is pitlaned by admin, gets offensive against another driver (stfu) | -5 pts. For #66

• Lap 63 | #79, #88 | #88 overtakes #79 under caution, does not give place back before green flag | -10 pts. For #88

• Lap 66 | #22s | Is lucky dog

Lap 67
CAUTION #4 ENDS

• Lap 70 | #007, #18, #028, #68, #999, | #007, #68, #999 are going through the chicane, #007hits #68, #007 spins through the grass #18 hits the stationary #007, also #028 gets involved, all in all a racing accident, looks also a bit like lag of the #007 here

Lap 70
CAUTION #5 STARTS

• Lap 71 | #028, #79 | #028 hits #79 under Caution because of speeding. Both spin out | -10 pts. For #028

• Lap 74 | #9 | Is lucky dog

• Lap 76 | #14 | Rides brakes under Caution | -5 pts. For #14

• Lap 76 | #455, #88, #22s | #455 overtakes two cars under Caution | -10 pts. For #455

Lap 76
CAUTION #5 ENDS

• Lap 76 | #22s, #88 | #22s hits #88 at restart, #22s spins himself out, #88 continued

• Lap 79 | #14, #74, | #14 overtakes #74 in T3, was too close and slides into #74, crashes out | -10 pts. For #14

• Lap 87 | #14, #028 | #14 overtakes #028 in T3, #028 does not hold line and crashes #14 out | -5 pts. For #028

• Lap 92 | #0, #14 | #0 spins out #14 while bump-drafting | -5 pts. For #0

Total
====================================
-50 | #55 | DISQ (more then 24 Penalty Points, 5 Penalties) => race suspension for Race 3 and Race 4
-34 | #44 | DISQ (more then 24 Penalty Points; 6 Penalties) => race suspension for Race 3
-26 | #028 | DISQ (more then 24 Penalty Points; 5 Penalties)
-25 | #0 | DISQ (more then 24 Penalty Points; 4 Penalties)
-15 | #14
-15 | #3
-15 | #8
-10 | #07s
-10 | #66
-10 | #38
-10 | #91
-10 | #42
-10 | #88
-10 | #455
-5 | #74
-5 | #9
-5 | #22s
-4 | #18
+1 | #68

Warnings: #18, #66, #79, #666

Bonus
====================================
5 #07s | Pole Position
5 | #14 | Fastest Lap in Race
5 | #68 | Highest Climber
5 | #0,#07s, #8, #14, #18, #38,#42, #55, #74, #88,#91,#455, | Top 50% of Qualifiers




Points Standings for Race 2
====================================
180____38[FPR]Yankman
165____#42 Strokes>UK<
165____#8[HR]?Rawe?
165____#07s[FM]Laudi
152____#68[FM]2March
150____#007 Fusion. Jack
150____#9[FM]^Ketil
142____#999_[PWRL]james12s
138____#79 J.B. BotP
129____#91_WOT.D???
125____#88-PunkRocker
122____#455 FIN[UK]
122____#18[FM]Fischfix
119____#14[HR] HogaMan
115____#74 - Moo.Danny
113____#22s[FM] Ecret
112____#11[HR] SuLLy
96_____#66 G.Gab BotP
94_____#3 Bo duke.WAV
5______#0 D.Galindo .WAV (5 Pts. from Quali)
5______#55 Adonis BotP (5 Pts. from Quali)
0______#028_Elliott
0______#44 [RTS] Klemen


Total Standings after 2 Races
=========================================================
1st _____ 359 ____ #38[FPR]Yankman | 0
2nd _____ 338 ____ #8| HR Rawex | -21
3rd _____ 335 ____ #42 Strokes>UK< | -24
4th _____ 289 ____ #9[FM]^Ketil | -70
5th _____ 273 ____ #11[HR] SuLLy | -86
6th _____ 264 ____ #455 Fin[UK] | -95
7th _____ 260 ____ #79 J.B. BotP | -99
8th _____ 250 ____ #74 - Moo.Danny | -109
9th _____ 250 ____ #007Jack.McIntyre | -109
10th ____ 239 ____ #18_[FM]Fischfix | -120
11th ____ 233 ____ #999_[PWRL]james12s | -126
12th ____ 227 ____ #14[HR] HogaMan | -132
13th ____ 209 ____ #3 bo duke | -150
14th ____ 198 ____ #66 G.Gab BotP | -161
15th ____ 165 ____ #07s[FM]Laudi | -194
16th ____ 165 ____ #2_Becky Rose | -194
17th ____ 160 ____ #55 Adonis BotP | -199
18th ____ 152 ____ #68[FM]2March | -207
19th ____ 138 ____ #5 GWADanny | -221
20th ____ 129 ____ #91_WOT.DEKO | -230
21st ____ 125 ____ #88-PunkRocker | -234
22nd ____ 123 ____ #07[FM]^KeNi | -236
23rd ____ 113 ____ #22s[FM] Ecret | -246
24th ____ 112 ____ #50 TKS||Branislav | -247
25th ____ 109 ____ #22 [FM]Byrney | -250
26th ____ 98 _____ #13 DFH| LONT | -261
27th ____ 5 ______ #0 D.Galindo .WAV | -354
28th ____ 0 ______ #44 [RTS] Klemen | -359
29th ____ 0 ______ #028_Elliott | -359


Rookies Championships after 2 Races
====================================================
1st ____ 335 ___ #42 Strokes>UK<
2nd ____ 273 ___ #11[HR] SuLLy
3rd ____ 260 ___ #79 J.B. BotP
4th ____ 233 ___ #999_[PWRL]james12s
5th ____ 227 ___ #14[HR] HogaMan
6th ____ 198 ___ #66 G.Gab BotP
7th ____ 160 ___ #55 Adonis BotP
8th ____ 138 ___ #5 GWADanny
9th ____ 129 ___ #91_WOT.Deko
10th ___ 123 ___ #07[FM]^KeNi
11th ___ 113 ___ #22s[FM] Ecret
12th ___ 109 ___ #22 [FM]Byrney
13th ___ 98 ____ #13 DFH| LONT
14th ___ 5 _____ #0 D.Galindo .WAV
15th ___ 0 _____ #44 [RTS] Klemen
16th ___ 0 _____ #028_Elliott

Last edited by Fischfix, Sun, 15 Jul 2007 12:06.

a packet: if a car has pitlimiter on or off

not really, on nascar they are going about 60 miles per hour on indy, and on the short-tracks even slower i think.

the rules will change in that direction (pit-limiter speed), with an addition of reducing pacecar length (laps) and a tire restriction to R2 (so they heat up faster when they are cold). but only on the kyoto oval layouts. we also might think about a reasonable MAXIMUM speed under Caution, which might prevent crashes from closing up cars. i will give that information out when the admins and me discussed it.

i am not sure but what about

X stands for a CROSS


so maybe there is a rally-kind of thing, or auto-cross (autoX)?




when you see the picuters with the sign-X thing it is most of the time on DIRT

did you try out the insim gateway from sören scharf? maybe it works with spectator

thx, you've made my day

you can make layouts for Season 3. we will consider them if they are any good. but the schedule for season 2 is fixed.

you got it right hariel

i was thinking about "the glen" as well. ok the glen has more height difference, but the reference is the closest on AS club.

unofficial race results are available from www.lfscar.com in the results section. the replay files are there as well.


here are the direct links:
Results
Replays
cheers

it is Aston Club nothing special

balancing the gtrs makes no sense. in the end we have 3 cars which are the same speed but look different. which means we have 1 car with 3 body-kits. WOW....

the only difference: FXR is 4WD and the FZR uses a bit more fuel... these cars should be much more different in my opinion, not balanced out...