yeah thats what i've heard as well. its basically the car michael schumacher won his last title in 2004.

wow... over 100 euro for one!!! year.

and ALL YOU GET IS 2 CARS AND 7 TRACKS (4 ovals and 3 racetracks). EVERYTHING ELSE COSTS EXTRA!!!


who is so stupid to pay that much for a single game in beta status with no cars and no tracks? thats almost double/three times the price you pay for a normal game with no monthly costs and no extra costs with 10 times the cars and tracks.

really, this game is way overpriced. no game in the world is worth 100 euro a year not even if it has the best physics you can imagine. thats just insane...
if you want more cars/tracks play rFactor.

i cannot believe people are really buying this shit

Last edited by Fischfix, Sun 15 Jun 2008, 00:49.

can you post the gofer cam?

Push

ok i explain it a bit closer:


1) fcy means full course yellow or caution, which is possible already with the yellow flag button but i forgot to write: add an ai driver as pacecar with the command /ai

i want to use an ai driver as pacecar, as it is reliable and does not make errors. i had lots of races in the past with human pacecar drivers and to be honest, a lot of problems occurred this way, as humans make errors or which is the biggest problem: do not show up for a league race.

so now 5) 6) 7) make more sense
with "restart" i do not mean restart of the race from the grid but a rolling start the pacecar goes to the pits and a green flag is displayed at the same moment the pacecar crosses pit entrance

so actually all i would need is a new button: "send pacecar out", "send pacecar in" (maybe "spec pacecar") and "green flag"

Last edited by Fischfix, Sat 14 Jun 2008, 11:21.

is it possible to have another button for the admin like: "start safetycar period" in which
1) a fcy is displayed
2) pits are closed until the leader is behind the pacecar (can also be admin triggered)
3) open pits
4) give out "green next time by" command (again admin triggered)
5) gives a stop and go penalty to the ai pacecar (so it goes to pitroad next time)
6) restarts the race after a random period of time after the pacecar crosses pit entrance
7) send pacecar to spectate

Last edited by Fischfix, Fri 13 Jun 2008, 22:33.

+1(000.000)

is lfs lapper able to:

detect if there was a crash (spin of a car) on track and give out (is possible with spin detection)
1) a auto-message or button somewhere on the low right of screen for everyone containing the name of the car which crashed (is possible as i could see in the config)
2) give out the command "/ai SAFETYCAR" (did not find it, is this possible. i think so its just a normal lfs-command, "/ai" right?)
3) check if everyone is below a certain speed or better if everyone is running with pitlimiter after X seconds after a crash? and if one is not using pit-limiter by that time give out a warning and after X+Y seconds give out a drive through penalty for that driver (did not find that, is this possible?)... maybe this could be solved with something similar to the "too slow detection" in the oposite way or maybe with something like the "acceleration detection" just with "max-top speed".... needs to be admin triggered or automated after a certain command is given out


is it possible to have the same with restriction also for tires? like if i have a R2 tire restriction on this track (everyone MUST use R2 tires), lapper checks the cars if they have wrong tires when exiting pits and also give out penalties when a car is changing to wrong tires during a race


can it give out a msg to an admin if a car is resets (space bar) when the server allows resetting?

Last edited by Fischfix, Fri 13 Jun 2008, 00:28.

i hope you are right. when and where did he say that?

i play this game now since 2005 and all i can say is, this bug has been mentioned and discussed since then.

in the last 3 years there were many bugs-fixes and updates to the game but this MAJOR bug has not been fixed. i only see two real reason why:
1)´its not possible to fix this bug due to the way of lfs is calculating collision at the moment. this will mean, the collision model has to be rewritten and i do not see this is going to happen until S3 is going to happen (which will not happen in the next 5 years) as we are still in S2 alpha!

2) the devs did miss this bug-report for the past 3 years OR did not think this is important to the community the past 3 years

if someone has an other idea why this bug still exists please post, i do not really have another reason for it

i use a firewall as well... and i did not need to configuer. the first time you start the software, the firewall pops up, asks if you want to block it or not... if you get lfs to run, then this should not be a problem.. but
its your decision how you want to stream

i'd go for the easiest way, and use a program which is already in use rather then trying to invent the wheel for new

Quote from AndroidXP :

@Fischfix:
Not saying that the devs don't plan to at some point make more attractive content for the American market (ovals of all kinds and sizes, basically), but I think that right now the simulation aspect is simply not complete enough to warrant pushes in that direction. It would be like implementing banger racing without damage modelling, or rally without a detailed surface simulation.

What you do right now on the oval might be fun and might take skill in its own way, but from my knowledge about oval racing (which is arguably very little), it has not much to do with actual oval racing techniques, mainly due to the simplified aero model. For an oval you could probably get away with a worse tyre simulation than now, but the aero is absolutely crucial.

So what I'm saying is, concentrate on fixing the basics, and do it well. Then implement stuff, and implement it properly. Having everything simulated half-assed will always leave you in second place.



Then again, it's not like our ramblings have any influence on the devs' plan anyway, so whatever.

true, drafting at the moment has not much to do what drafting should be like. (aero-push/drag) also what i miss, and this is imo the most important thing: when you have a damaged front wing, you should not be able to go the same speed as someone without damage. and of course there are tons of improvements to suggest and make/implement into the game before we really need another BIG oval.
but what could be implemented with the actual "aero model" (which is none) would be a short-track like bristol or martinsville as drafting does not play a big role there if at all... but... thats off topic and suggested a quadrizillion times and flamed a quadrizillion times

Quote from AndroidXP :

Tbh, adding a late model would probably do the least to "keep up" with iRacing, considering how LFS is not really targeting the American market. New cars in general (would now) do IMO very little as long as they're based on the same physics, unless maybe if they fill out a huge gap.

Better tyre physics, better damage- and aero modelling (especially important for oval racing), more- and more characteristic tracks (heck, maybe a more interesting oval for you roundabout nuts )... that is what would help LFS push forward.
Tracks for longevity, physics for showing who's the boss

agree 100% with you but why not targeting the american market?

way too expensive... i will never pay monthly fees for a game unless i can earn money with it

13$ a month is just ridiculous... although i hope lfs will need to improve to keep up to date like get some of similar content like: late model cars, sprint cars and stuff like that

but that has been discussed for ages now

funny, i did not need to setup a router or anything using sopcast... at the moment i am in budapest in a hotel via wireless lan, and am using it. last month i was in berlin and used it and i was in italy on a camping lot and used it without any problem.

the use is so easy: you get a link like: sop://blablabalbla click on it, the application opens up and streams the video stream, which is nothing else then a mms stream.

i am not sure on this but i think you even can use mediaplayer to open those streams.


and the bigest advantage is, you do not have to worry about upload, as the sopcast system is taking the load for distribution to multiple clients...

if i do 360° cup broadcasts, this is probably the way i will go

+1 for the corner

although some will want the whole nordschleife then

i

thats why i said use sopcast, tvu or something like that...

during the EM lots of people stream the local tv program for everyone in the world. shouldn't be that difficult if john doe can do it, we can do this 100%

Quote :

"SopCast is a simple and free way to broadcast video and audio or watch video and listen to radio on the Internet."

when i read the tutorial for broadcasting everything looks quite easy.

yesterday i've watched the soccer games over a sopcast channel streamed by a guy in spain and it worked perfectly.

Last edited by Fischfix, Wed 11 Jun 2008, 07:02.

try these,

i gave you the .psd file as well so you can make your own adjustments if my version is not satisfying

i am on it...

is this the right car:

the move was legal and logical as andretti was the whole race going on the outside line, he just switched in the final laps before the crash to the inside line everyone else was going. then he got passed by dixon because he gave him the inside. right after that ryan tried the same but this time marco did not let the door open that wide.

after some more reviews i saw ryans car jumping just a little bit before the crash. maybe he got lose on the front end, tried to compensate by more steering, when the car got grip again on the front, he went down on the white line because the steering was too much and... up he went. could be possible as ryan was on his 3rd??? oval race...

racing accident however i see the problem more on ryans side. marco definitely did not move downwards or something.

Quote from tristancliffe :

Sorry to be harsh, but if you don't know the names of components you won't be any help tuning a car to a track. Unless of course it's a really REALLY shit series, in which case what's the point.

I suspect the former. In a few years you might know enough to just about sort very vague handling problems, but nothing special.

not necessary, setups as everything with cars on tracks is about physics. if you know the math behind it, it will help. but to communicate with other people in a team you need to know the names of the parts. and when starting a racing team the smallest support can help.

so i think you just

Quote from evilpimp :

Ryan simply made a mistake and jumped a little on the apron or whatever. Maybe seeing Marco so close scared him but it could have been avoided if Ryan kept his line aswell, imo.

i agree with you. i've watched it now again several times and probably yes thats the reason. marco did not move more to the inside, he just kept his line and ryan maybe was scared and went down to the white line...

Quote from e2mustang :

maybe they realized the fact that they will be never able to do a right turn for the rest of their life,and while they were too deep in the mind teh accident happend,as shit happens very fast.

whats the problem with you? if you do not have any clue about a topic and are not interested in it, why do you read or post on this thread anyway?

Last edited by Fischfix, Tue 10 Jun 2008, 10:55.

@scawen

you were right, its the skins. i gave the ai drivers my high-res skins...

what do you you guys think of this accident last week?

did marco give enough room as he said? or was Hunter-Reay too eager on that pass?

in my opinion marco gave room, maybe he gave just the amount of room someone needs to do a pass if everything is going fine, but the race was at the edge and the tires were pretty much worn out. so he did not take that into account. maybe he did not want to give another guy room as he let dixon pass. but maybe Ryan was not 100% safe with his line too or he thought there is not enough room and went too far down to the white line. i'd love an helicopter cam view of that accident.

i'd say a classical racing accident with no one or both of them to blame

not sure if this is related to Y22 or the hires-skin pack as i've installed both of them but,

when i race offline i get "shadow error" and all the shadows under the cars are gone