I think reasonable people can draw a line between heroin and milkshakes. Can you?
If the government shouldn't be involved in regulating and enforcing drug laws, then they also should not give money and services to addicts. Hospitals should not treat addicts for any symptoms related to drugs unless the user pays or has health insurance. It is unfair for responsible people to have to pay for the mistakes of others. Part of living in a free and independent society is taking personal responsibility.
You want to be free to take drugs and destroy your body? I want to be free to let you die.
You want to be free to take drugs and destroy your body? I want to be free to let you die.
I'm starting to really like this car since the prices are getting very affordable. This one is for sale in town for $8500.
2001 clk430 AMG.
2001 clk430 AMG.
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a new take on a now classic design, looks sexy to me
My uncle had a similar experience in his brand new 1970 challenger in high school. His passenger didn't die, he sustained brain damage and is now retarded. There is a fate worse than death.
I hate seeing shrines on the sides of roads, I wish people would be aware that driving a car is the most dangerous and technically difficult thing they will ever spend a lot of time doing, so they had better be damn good at it.
I hate seeing shrines on the sides of roads, I wish people would be aware that driving a car is the most dangerous and technically difficult thing they will ever spend a lot of time doing, so they had better be damn good at it.
I watched an Icelandic film called Jar City which is available on Netflix. Great imagery, interesting pacing, can't say much about the acting as I don't know what convincing Icelandic acting is supposed to sound like. A murder mystery in a country with virtually no crime was the premise that made me watch it.
nice wagon i like the wheels, stance, color,
but the sticker makes you look like a chronic masturbator
but the sticker makes you look like a chronic masturbator
Australians having sex whats next in this f-d up world
I'll save you Fox News!!
The idea of an efficient corporation making heroin must sound better to you than it does to me. I wonder how the print ads will look. As for your last point I agree. If people had sense, they would stick to potent strains of marijuana, but I am afraid that if it were legal to do hard drugs, teenagers would try weed and think "that was great, I wonder what meth is like?" Most normal people don't know where to get meth (I don't) but I would if i could buy it at the gas station.
we may not be at that point yet, but it seems like we're moving towards that reality rather than away from it. But no one can know what the situation will be like 25 years from now.
hypothetical situation, you are accused of raping someone. They have video of you going to an adult video store every week.
"ladies and gentleman of the jury, look at this pervert buying porn all the time, he is obviously a rapist!"
"Sounds good to me I just want to go home"
"Another horrible monster will spend the rest of his life in jail we are so awesome and justice"
hypothetical situation, you are accused of raping someone. They have video of you going to an adult video store every week.
"ladies and gentleman of the jury, look at this pervert buying porn all the time, he is obviously a rapist!"
"Sounds good to me I just want to go home"
"Another horrible monster will spend the rest of his life in jail we are so awesome and justice"
blueflame imagine that a man you don't know followed you everywhere you went, writing down in a notebook everything you do, say, and buy for the purpose of using that information against you in court. You see him everywhere you look from the time you leave your house to the time you get back home. If that doesn't bother you then perhaps you are an idiot.
If I can't watch every meeting and conversation one government agent has with another, why is it OK for them to know exactly where I am and what I'm doing at all times?
It's too late for the UK, it's not like they're going to take down all of the thousands of cameras they have set up, that's why the opposition to CCTV is so fierce in the US. I don't care if 7-11 films me buying a coke, but when their cameras are linked to a nationwide database it's gone too far.
If I can't watch every meeting and conversation one government agent has with another, why is it OK for them to know exactly where I am and what I'm doing at all times?
It's too late for the UK, it's not like they're going to take down all of the thousands of cameras they have set up, that's why the opposition to CCTV is so fierce in the US. I don't care if 7-11 films me buying a coke, but when their cameras are linked to a nationwide database it's gone too far.
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hyper you have a point, but it seems like a conflict of interest for a government to make hard drugs legal and readily available on one hand, and try to prevent and discourage their use on the other. That is another argument for keeping the status quo, except perhaps the government should be entirely focused on imprisoning manufacturers and dealers as opposed to users.
Remember that the de facto war going on in Mexico right now is mainly fueled by demand for drugs in the US. There is no guarantee that it would get any better if hard drugs were legalized, and in fact could make the violence worse as the cartels are allowed to get larger and branch out into other lucrative crimes via a legal international drug distribution system. This includes sex trafficking and kidnap for ransom. The unintended geopolitical consequences of legalizing hard drugs has not been thoroughly studied or experimented with.
Remember that the de facto war going on in Mexico right now is mainly fueled by demand for drugs in the US. There is no guarantee that it would get any better if hard drugs were legalized, and in fact could make the violence worse as the cartels are allowed to get larger and branch out into other lucrative crimes via a legal international drug distribution system. This includes sex trafficking and kidnap for ransom. The unintended geopolitical consequences of legalizing hard drugs has not been thoroughly studied or experimented with.
@cheerio
synthetic marijuana is far worse than regular weed. Want to smoke some dried herbs sprayed with unknown chemicals? That's what K2 is and it has caused kids to die.
Also why were you dealing K2 unless you were scamming kids. If one of them had died you would be in prison.
@hyperactive
I'll agree that my opposition to needle exchange programs is too hard line. My point is that making a considered decision to essentially commit slow, painful suicide does not make one eligible for taxpayer money. Needle exchange programs are better left to charitable groups, which are actually the main source of such services today. I could go on about my views on the criminality of transmitting AIDS but you already think I'm too extreme.
synthetic marijuana is far worse than regular weed. Want to smoke some dried herbs sprayed with unknown chemicals? That's what K2 is and it has caused kids to die.
Also why were you dealing K2 unless you were scamming kids. If one of them had died you would be in prison.
@hyperactive
I'll agree that my opposition to needle exchange programs is too hard line. My point is that making a considered decision to essentially commit slow, painful suicide does not make one eligible for taxpayer money. Needle exchange programs are better left to charitable groups, which are actually the main source of such services today. I could go on about my views on the criminality of transmitting AIDS but you already think I'm too extreme.
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^^ excellent. The government should not be in the business of legislating morality.
Just to be the devil's advocate as I am totally against the "war on drugs" and in support of legalizing marijuana, but I don't trust legislators to do it properly.
There is something to be said about the status quo for marijuana. Presently, weed is widely available, inexpensive, and good quality that is to say it is generally not tampered with by adding harmful chemicals etc. If weed was subject to normal market forces then large corporations would get involved with growing and distributing it. Who is to say that they would not add nicotine to marijuana? To companies like Marlboro, the major downside of weed is that it isn't addictive...yet. As more states reduce the crime of marijuana possession to a citation and <$200 fine I'm pretty comfortable with having and smoking weed even in Texas. I think the only sensible way to legalize marijuana is to make it legal only as a medicine with a prescription and impose a maximum yield for cultivators. California has pretty much a perfect system except it is subject to raids by federal officers.
I don't support legalizing heroin, cocaine, or methamphetamine. I am not in favor of taxpayer funded support and rehabilitation programs or needle exchange programs. If people make a conscious decision to do these extremely harmful and potentially lethal drugs they should bear all of the consequences. There is not a single person who is old enough to obtain heroin who doesn't know that heroin is a killer. At the end stages of hard drug use, the user often ends up in jail or in a hospital, both of which I have to pay for. They should just be left alone. It sounds heartless, it probably is, but they should have stuck with weed.
There is something to be said about the status quo for marijuana. Presently, weed is widely available, inexpensive, and good quality that is to say it is generally not tampered with by adding harmful chemicals etc. If weed was subject to normal market forces then large corporations would get involved with growing and distributing it. Who is to say that they would not add nicotine to marijuana? To companies like Marlboro, the major downside of weed is that it isn't addictive...yet. As more states reduce the crime of marijuana possession to a citation and <$200 fine I'm pretty comfortable with having and smoking weed even in Texas. I think the only sensible way to legalize marijuana is to make it legal only as a medicine with a prescription and impose a maximum yield for cultivators. California has pretty much a perfect system except it is subject to raids by federal officers.
I don't support legalizing heroin, cocaine, or methamphetamine. I am not in favor of taxpayer funded support and rehabilitation programs or needle exchange programs. If people make a conscious decision to do these extremely harmful and potentially lethal drugs they should bear all of the consequences. There is not a single person who is old enough to obtain heroin who doesn't know that heroin is a killer. At the end stages of hard drug use, the user often ends up in jail or in a hospital, both of which I have to pay for. They should just be left alone. It sounds heartless, it probably is, but they should have stuck with weed.
CCTV is not the best way to prevent people from driving off without paying for gas. In the US you can't even start pumping gas until your card has been approved at the pump or you've payed with cash inside. Is it better to catch people committing crimes or make them impossible to commit?
@Krane: some US states are improving these obsolete and misinterpreted 'wiretapping' laws for the better, but unfortunately they aren't improving the obsolete and misinterpreting police officers.
@Krane: some US states are improving these obsolete and misinterpreted 'wiretapping' laws for the better, but unfortunately they aren't improving the obsolete and misinterpreting police officers.
Oh we're posting trunks well my car doesn't have a cool sound system but it does have a tailgunner position
No its a boon the the bureaucracy that will set up the cameras, pay people to manage the system, and make you foot the bill. Perhaps if the incredibly unfair auto insurance price in the UK wasn't a form of punishment for owning a car more people would buy it.
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I actually knew a tool who did that to his 330ci. He would race around not really knowing how to shift so the car always smelled like incinerated clutch. Also the front bump stops had fallen off the frame after he lowered it (cut the springs) so it was all in all pretty terrifying. He was the kind of guy that makes people worry if douchebaggery is contagious.
I actually knew a tool who did that to his 330ci. He would race around not really knowing how to shift so the car always smelled like incinerated clutch. Also the front bump stops had fallen off the frame after he lowered it (cut the springs) so it was all in all pretty terrifying. He was the kind of guy that makes people worry if douchebaggery is contagious.
The point is somewhere else in the Middle East he would be headless and forgotten. I'm not concerned with whether or not it was right to prosecute him, in fact it reminds me of Bradley Manning, who will face a private court martial this year for aiding the enemy. If you don't agree with the law that's a different story. Last summer more than 400,000 Israelis protested the government without being hit by mortar fire or massacred. Only countries that respect the rule of law give trials to people accused of treason and espionage.
What is the punishment for treason under Sharia law? Leaving Islam for another religion or no religion in considered a form of treason and punished by death, so you can imagine what they do to spies.
What is the punishment for treason under Sharia law? Leaving Islam for another religion or no religion in considered a form of treason and punished by death, so you can imagine what they do to spies.
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Oh yeah the guy who got a trial and is alive today.
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Honestly RacerX you could try to convince me all day long but it comes down to ideology. I cannot subscribe to or in any way accept the ideology of mainstream Islam in the Middle East. It is violent and unfair against women, especially young women. There is really no such thing as rule of law in a country that implements Sharia law. Sharia law is designed for secularized murder, fear, and oppression and every country should be united in overthrowing nations that use it as a farce of justice. If you they can have you executed for being gay or being raped or being a Christian/Hindu/not Muslim, then they are out of touch with modern civilization, and that country, ideology, and the people who believe in it will either change or be destroyed by the unstoppable force of progress.
Israel acts aggressively towards its neighbors, who have in the past acted more aggressively against Israel in two separate wars that Israel did not start... but Israeli courts don't sentence people to death by public stoning for not being Jewish, or not wearing the right hat. They don't systematically murder people for crimes that don't even exist in the first world such as adultery and heresy. In Israel you are allowed to be Muslim, or homosexual (LGBT rights are the most developed in the Middle East or Asia), or you can even speak out against the government with the right of free speech. Speaking out against the government in Syria or Iran means death. Whatever Israel does to its neighbors and vice versa is in the context of more than 70 years of war and conflict in which everyone is guilty of something. It just so happens that Israel keeps winning.
Someday the strength of the Israeli people will be tested again in a full-blown war, and I hope that next time, they will not bow the the US or any other country and keep for themselves whatever land they gain control over like every other country in the entire world has done in the past. You don't negotiate with the losers of a war, yet Israel was called to give land back to Syria and Egypt that it earned in blood during the 1967 Six Day War. It's as if the British decided that the American Revolution didn't go their way and they want go back to "pre-1775 borders."
Israel acts aggressively towards its neighbors, who have in the past acted more aggressively against Israel in two separate wars that Israel did not start... but Israeli courts don't sentence people to death by public stoning for not being Jewish, or not wearing the right hat. They don't systematically murder people for crimes that don't even exist in the first world such as adultery and heresy. In Israel you are allowed to be Muslim, or homosexual (LGBT rights are the most developed in the Middle East or Asia), or you can even speak out against the government with the right of free speech. Speaking out against the government in Syria or Iran means death. Whatever Israel does to its neighbors and vice versa is in the context of more than 70 years of war and conflict in which everyone is guilty of something. It just so happens that Israel keeps winning.
Someday the strength of the Israeli people will be tested again in a full-blown war, and I hope that next time, they will not bow the the US or any other country and keep for themselves whatever land they gain control over like every other country in the entire world has done in the past. You don't negotiate with the losers of a war, yet Israel was called to give land back to Syria and Egypt that it earned in blood during the 1967 Six Day War. It's as if the British decided that the American Revolution didn't go their way and they want go back to "pre-1775 borders."
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