But to be strict, it isn't written in stone afaik, and therefore one shouldn't say that "it will be in the next patch", but "most likely it will be in next patch" instead. I just haven't forgotten the rally pack thing, any unnecessary hype around a developement process that is completely "secret" doesn't do any good. [/whine]

Quote from duke_toaster :

Car interior upgrades will be featured in the next patch.

Is that now confirmed by official authorities?

Quote from Hyperactive :

Imho, the Massa's pass was perfectly ok. Quite similar what Kimi's pass was (quite late) but Coulthard just turned into Massa: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiPAJCCnZpM

EDIT: includes also the Davis kick-ass comment

Wow, from all the trackside cams it looked like a desperate late dive, but that angle really shows that it wasn't Massa's fault

But you can't blame DC either, I believe that Massa was completely in DC's blind spot at the turn-in.

Last edited by frokki, Mon 17 Mar 2008, 12:50.

Quote from RAM0011 :

=why this game is not developped on Nextgen console ?

So LFS win vert much money !

You could find this question answered dozens if not hundreds of times if you read through all the posts on this board, but I save you from that hassle.

Making very much money out of Nextgen (that's actually Previousgen in a short while) console game needs big marketing. And for big marketing, or basically even publishing a console game you need a publisher. And to get a publisher you have to have a product to convince the publisher with, that it's going to sell a lot. LFS is not that kind of product, because of all game sells racing games only cover a tiny portion. And of all racing games simulators only cover a tiny portion. And of all simulators LFS covers a tiny portion. Making a console version wouldn't be economically reasonable.

Other reasons why it wouldn't be reasonable: Consoles don't even have a proper hardware to play LFS with, and LFS has too long life cycle, it would have to be rewritten several times because there's always this "next gen" every 5 years or so...

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Quote from Hyperactive :

You're right then

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To kimi's defence, you must say that his first laps were quite nice, 7 positions up in one lap . Some how it just took an eternity to get pass Barrichello...

Yeah, Kimi going round DC outside on T3 and forcing him wide at the next exit was fun to watch. But Felipe's dive to DC's side wasn't! Great start for McLaren, not so great for Ferrari. I'm so looking forward to next weekend, as I found out that Speed channel commentators actually follow the race and know something about F1 unlike their Finnish counterparts...

Quote from jarmenia :

So I guess the follow up question would be what's the best way to get better racing in traffic without wrecking people on line since the AI doesn't seem to be the answer?

Once you get over the first step, you'll soon notice that it wasn't that hard. Just drive slow enough that you can always maintain control of your car, keep your eyes on the map and mirrors, car on the racing line and be predictable with your maneuvers.

Quote from nisskid :

no, ur not getting it, im targeting the people that say they will be good drivers and instantly be able to get good times in real life on their first day out just because they have played LFS. this is the same as saying that LFS is so closely related with real life that u can simply get up from ur computer, get in a race car and transfer ur skills from LFS straight to real life.

Depends on what you mean by "good times", but didn't Chaos just say that you can? Not everybody of course. And the best LFS'ers aren't necessary the fastest learners for real racing. But there are people who could adapt those differently placed controls and g-forces in less than a day.

And why would one need to open a window in a driving sim? Let's get back to it when we have extreme damage modelling and cockpit full of smoke, shall we?

The more you play LFS, the closer to real life it starts to feel. Compared to other racing sims, the dynamics (of mostly the tires) is just astonishing. Even though you can't feel the g-forces, and thus the physical experience isn't quite near what you would experience in a real car, you can apply the exact same skills you've learned in LFS to real world.

LFS has improved my knowledge of vehicle dynamics and skills of car control big time, but it also works the other way - just a few short runs on small karts have had positive effect on smoothness in LFS.

Quote from Lible :

Search! There is a post explaining what's going on.

Did a quick search, and only found another thread ending you suggesting people to search

Would you mind to enlighten us lazy ones?

Those "tricks" where the timer is screwed up, don't run at all at my work laptop. all i get is a slideshow and screaming cpu fan.

I always lost calibration like that on my Red momo, every time I crashed. But on G25 I've had no problems.

BTW Does the problem carry on even if you close and restart LFS again? Mine didn't. But anyway, recalibration should do the trick.

Quote from Cr!t!calDrift :

That wasn't completely biased at all.


I always wondered, why do s2 users tend to get worked up over demo racers having a large amount of features? It seems like jealousy to me.

Those who aren't willing to buy a license and play demo forever, are missing from the grid with me

I'm just repeating what others have said, but you should stay away from GTR, GTL, GTR2, rFactor, WTCC Race, Race 07, BMW Challenge and the next 10 exact same games that are going to follow with a different title, graphics and table values.

Basically only decent sims by my measures are GPL, RBR, LFS and Nascar 2003. But if you want to race online, but no ovals, LFS is the only choice.

Quote from daniel_stuehler :

Should be also more realistic if you ask a real driver.

I'm pretty sure, and Tristan can confirm if this is not the case, that in real race car you don't hear other cars over your own screaming engine as well as in LFS.

Who cares, as long as they have oil.

Quote from Gekkibi :

This is only my opinion, but imho it was great to include one-seater to demo, as it didn't had one before patch Y. Why should there be yet another normal RWD-car, as they also had XRG..?

coz u can only grip that stupid low powa car? it doesnt even have a rear wing. now all the promising drifters miss lfs coz they don't know u can drift race innit?

Quote from Gekkibi :

Instead, I would like to see more road-cars from different classes, for example SUV's or competitor to UF1 (Maybe an old Lada?).

+1, with open differential of course

I've noticed that the quality of pickup races and number of crowded servers (at least the ones running cars that I like to race with) have both improved from patch V to Y. Also the goal of LFS devs is to create a realistic racing sim, which obviously requires changing the game every now and then. And since you have bought the game, you must also have agreed the end-user license agreement, which says:
"1.4. You must be aware that we can alter any aspect of LFS as we see fit. Improvements, fixes and/or changes made to the game, are to be expected."

Any rant with good arguments would be ok, but pointless CAPS LOCK WHINING and STUPID BUSINESS BS sounds like a 13-year-old hotlapper being bitter because he no longer can get a WR...

Quote from Jonesy_ :

+

See? We are positive!

Quote from andyb1982 :

It amazes me how some people can type so well at 150mph!

Same here. My keyboard is right in front of me underneath the wheel, but typing while driving is a suicide. I can barely push the right F-key

Quote from Ian.H :

The handbrake is the _last_ think I'd think of using in an emergency when thinking about braking.

Funnily enough, I once managed to avoid an accident (irl) by pulling the handbrake and initiating a scandinavian flick. But of course it would have been wiser not to get in that emergency in the first place.

It's true that immaturity amongst S2 racers seems to be increasing, but we must also remember that when compared to any online games I've ever played, LFS has by far most well-behaving and mature userbase!

Yesterday I drove the LX6 for few hours, and noticed how hard it really can be correct sudden slides. One hand on the shifter and one wheel on grass = one frokki less in the race . I haven't noticed such a thing with other cars.

Quote from batteryy :

actually no where can get it?

You have your own bank account, right? Then go to your local bank and ask for the card. In most banks it's free. Remember to mention that you are going to use it for paying in Internet, so they activate the feature.

Last edited by frokki, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 14:34.