my 2 cents...the track as oval alone, i think it's mostly useless (see Bob Smith comment) unless more complex aerodynamics will be implemented, but if it mixes different layouts in the inside part...in other words the outer fast part can be used for very fast sections of a circuit...
well maybe such track can be useful also for another thing: playing rollerball using uf1 as ball

omg i cannot believe the things i've read here! how can people who don't even got the age to drive, boldly state so untrue things?! i quote almost everything said by scawen.

plus: i can start my car in 5th, but that doesnt mean the first 4 gears are unuseful, actually i would like to have a 6th gear in my car...

i thought the intention was an high-quality mod pack with selected material, otherwise i don't see the point: there is already the "texture database thread" on this subforum wich is well organised and frequently updated, plus it's on the official forum...

hi guys, i want just to inform that i made a quick test of blackwood textures as i promised, so next week i promise i will find a day to finalise it and release it...keep in touch

i think that S1 racers could contact each other and organize an uncommon combo server, if that would happen i promise i will join to such S1 server...from time to time i look for S1 servers but i don't find any, it's up to you guys to arrange a good alternative, at this moment S2 servers are quite boring with always the same combos, you have a rare opportunity now: make it happen and you''l never be alone!

implement the command "exec" to execute .exe and .bat (or whatever extension recognised by windows, in other words the "start" command of windows console), but only into the "executable" subfolder of lfs (for security reasons) or any subfolder of that one.

this is usefull to start stop mods in easy way, or to start lfsworls from lfs, or to make scripts to install/uninstall mods making proper backups/restore of original lfs files.

PS i noted that my suggestion for "button R llokr 0.3" and "button A throttle 0.6" was deleted, but is not included into the list of already suggested things, i think it was deleted by mistake.

ok to put my textures into a megapack (but must include readme and license file), NO for hosting the single packs, use the download link i provided because i need it for keeping statistics and see if people prefers dark versions or bright versions, what track, if they are interested into source material etc. hosting will screw all it up, i hope you understand.

Quote from Octane :

would it be possible to implement a function to export your current control settings to a script file ? (buttons, axes, views, ...) Could be handy to start editing from such a exported script file, maybe you could also choose which settings to export. Just an idea that came to my mind, what do u think ?

+999 altought i don't think scawen is willing to implement it (at least in this patch), because i guess it will need quite much work

Quote from Shotglass :

say say say !
(had to be done sry )

i like that goldie oldie

Quote from Scawen :

They aren't needed because absolutely everything after a say command or an echo command, is what is to be said.

There are no more commands on a line following a say (or echo, or msg, or rcm).

maybe your examples for events, just mislead us...only you have in mind what in the future you want or not want to implement, just keep in mind that powerful and robust interpreters (i.e. bash) have a "strong" sintax with clear delimiters and rules...if i was you i would keep the leading slash and also i will use another character like "^" or "|"...but that's just an opinion...

Quote from RiGun :

Personally I don't like easy to understand but long code, when you get used to write code adding words that are not strictly necessary it's kind of annoying, I just like functions and parameters.

i perfectly agree!!! so you too are for keeping the slash, right?

+ popcorns

if you plan to implement events like this, then you definately must keep the slash, otherwise, what would happen for such lines?:

on race_start say race is starting in 1 min

in 5 sec say say

nicer sintax are always the worst, who is writing code always want unambiguos sintax...you may make it unambiguos to interpret but surely is damn ambiguos to read, imo yet as it is, the sintax should be enforced with commas and parenthesis to make it more clear and robust.

Quote from Scawen :

I thought I'd better post this here in case you think of a good reason for every line to start with a slash. I don't want to regret that decision and have to change it further down the line when there are hundreds of scripts around.

i cannot think of specific situations, but imo is better to keep the "/" sign for two reasons:
1) less programming skilled people who start to learn lfs scripts, may be higly confused and make a lot of mistakes putting the slash where is not needed and skipping it when they shouldn't -> i guess it will be the top reason for issues and make forum full of threads asking why their script with correct sintax is not working
2) in principle having two different sintaxes in two different contexes is not good, let's just imagine hypotetical situations where people are developing/debugging own scripts with lfs and notepad side by side, and coping/pasting from one to another -> when i copy from notepad i must remember to add a "/" at start of the line, when doing the contrary i must add...to me, different sintaxes are only an evil source of many little problems, otherwise i don't think there will be major issues.

what i feel to suggest is to replace the "/" sign with another one (i.e. "^" wich is already an lfs special character used for colours), because is not uncommon to use the "/" when talking and since "//" is already used for comments, to type a "/" it would need to type "///" or even a more complex sintax.
maybe a sintax like <command> could be more clean and robust, but also means more typing.

btw, thanks for the scripting system! it would be very useful for us and i guess for you too

Quote from Vain :

This is a really handy way of assigning multiple actions to one button. The button sequentially triggers the function of the cycle one after another with each time I press the assigned button. This works well for indicators and the F9-F10-F12-F12 cycle.

Vain

Quote from St4Lk3R :

You have cut a part out of Vains script. He suggests to overload the /button command a bit so you can make a button run different commands in a fixed order each time you press it. This could make a button run a F9 F10 F11 F12 F12 cycle.

just read this thread, here is my solution to "cycling" with current scripting implementation http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=163767#post163767

Quote from Nick_ll :

Got an idea here.
For that we would need to be able to cycle through F9, F10, F11 and F12 with one button only, but then it could work if that's possible.
What I'd like to suggest would be that Mouse 3 (pressing on scroll wheel) would be the cycle button, then you use the mouse wheel to go up and down in the menu and then mouse left for + and mouse right for - for the values.

Of course that would only work for people who don't use mouse. Still I think it could be nice.
Scawen, do you think that would be possible to do with scripts?

+1

but for cycling it is already possible (with more "work"), you just need to do 4 lfs scripts let's say you want to use the "+" to cycle one direction, then script 1 has 2 lines: one that press F9 the second that assign script 2 to key "+"; script 2 has 2 lines: one that press F10 the second that assign script 3 to key "+"; etc.

for the rest, it just needs for the arrow key to be pressable

Quote from RiGun :

Maybe it could make the game easier for the keyboard players, but I think that many ppl wanting to make new WR could exploit this kind of scripting making predefined breaking power for each corner getting maximum optimisation, scripting is a two bladed weapon, and from my point of view it should remain for setting up controller options and view settings.

it is not only for keyboarders or mouse users, it's for everyone (see the "look right 27°" example), you should not have worries because setting a fixed partial throttle/brake will make impossible for you to compete for WR, since a WR holder must be a "trail-braking master" and even more, if someone wants to cheat, there are yet many automation tools that can automate directx inputs and thus it is already possible (and in a more effective way) to produce a mathematically perfect lap or just corner sequences and this not only for lfs but for anything.
the reason i requested for an implementation via script is because for such things to be implemented with GUI requires a lot of work by scawen whilst with scripts i think it will be much much less.

Quote from zeugnimod :

Dont be so impatient.

ROTFL

with the new script system i think that will be very useful to assign buttons an axis value, i explain: with the command /button A throttle 0.6 will make the button "A" act as 60% of throttle (very useful for keyboarders and mouse users) and the command /button R right_view 0.3 will make the key "R" to look right for 0.3*90° = 27° -> very useful for anyone because helps looking only a bit on one side and thus keeping looking forward wich is a must when someone try to overtake

i really hope this could be possible with not too much work, thank you for the attention scawen

it happens to me also when i'm in a good shape i can get quite fast in few laps on new combos...some days ago, i didn't find any decent combo, so for desperation i tried the bf1 at fe green, after few laps someone was quering the server for my stats and then said "it's not possible for anyone to do 50s after 5 laps!!!" same thing at an occ rallyx server: i was winning most of the races and when i left i realised that my setup had even a ballast!!! i was about to open a thread like this one... i think it's the matured experience even if we never raced a particular combo, the experience of how other cars need to be setup for certain kind of corners, how take into consideration if a track is twisty or onto etc. put this together in a day when you are in a good shape and it's done! you are gonna surprise yourself and make "pat, pat" on your shoulder...

lfs is always ahead of time and this only a confirmation...

Quote from dontsimon :

Hi

I tried these textures and they are very crisp and do look great. But I do have an issue.

The default textures have a grainy, rough, worn tarmac look to them, which helps in giving the effect of actually moving along a track. These textures though are very smooth and uniform, and as such (for me) do not give as good a sense of the vehicle actually moving at speed along the track.

As I look down the track, the asphalt texture just seeems to blend almost into a 2d image, whereas the defaults give a better sense of depth perception. They need more variance and randomness in the grittiness of the texture, so that it looks like one long track, not a single texure being repeated. If that makes sense.

Part of this may well be my system, and this is just my opinion though. I'm not criticising. I wouldn't even know how to create textures. Just some positive feedback, okay. Keep up the good work.

Hi!
first of all, don't worry: i need feedback! feel free even to say "hey, that's crap" -> i only ask to explain why so i may look deeper and improve this work you know the "eye of the beholder" will help me to keep to watch things from the right perspective, wich is difficult when you spend some time on one thing...said that, i tell you i'm quite surprised since i tried to focus mainly on the sense of speed! as you can see from the helicopter view screenshot there are subtle variations that at high speed should give s "stunning" (that was the purpose) effect, i know they are far to be perfect, but i feel a bit surprised since tire marks and elevation changes layers are 16% of the textures and adding more was giving aliasing (repetition effect), despite the fact that obviously it's all a matter of personal taste, maybe it could be that your monitor is far from a correct calibration or you use full AA/AF.
someone told me he had the problem of a "brownish look" and it turned to be an uncorrect monitor calibration, so maybe if you can try setting the highest value of the "white point" for you monitor and run a monitor calibration, that may help me understand better, thanks!

Quote from Xaid0n :

I thought thay were fine, I prefer racing with these texs then any others

i confess was very happy when you defined "wicked textures" made me feel my work was appreciated
but as i said i always look for improvement

Quote from dawesdust_12 :

I have more than sufficient ram, 1.5 GB and 256 of GFX memory, But I reinstalled it and its working fine now, I dunno why.

it must have been some sort of typical computer macumba, i'm glad they are working flawless now

Quote from sgt.flippy :

What the hell are you saying, I don't have any pants, welcome to the 21st century! sjeesh!

Do you have a pic of the giant kitty? I'd like to see her before I allow her to come around some time...

llok at the thread in my signature -> plenty of giant kitty on my hood