I'm betting heavily there would at least be one article everyday of Alonso whining.
PS. I thought everyone who are a lap down would be able to pass the safety car and form up at the end of the queue? why are the Lotus and Virgins there between Lewis and Rosberg?
time for Alonso and Ferrari to cry even more!!!! =D
if he gave his place up to Kubica he wouldn't have got that penalty, but he chose not to, so shame!
even better for Alonso! Safety car is coming out now for the debris, the whole field will bunch up. And Alonso will drop right to the back!
if he gave his place up to Kubica he wouldn't have got that penalty, but he chose not to, so shame!
even better for Alonso! Safety car is coming out now for the debris, the whole field will bunch up. And Alonso will drop right to the back!
and Ferrari also whines and cries when things ain't working out for them too.
what a perfect match!
because Alonso ALWAYS whines...
"great" strategy by McLaren. So that their two British World Champions can circulate together on the track for the photographers! XD
and I'll be surprised if Alonso can keep that place.
and I'll be surprised if Alonso can keep that place.
just about serves Vettel and RBR right.
it was a rational decision, but it wasn't an equitable decision, and they got punished with a punture.
PS. everyone behind Hamilton and ahead of the three new teams are circulating at pretty much the same pace!
it was a rational decision, but it wasn't an equitable decision, and they got punished with a punture.
PS. everyone behind Hamilton and ahead of the three new teams are circulating at pretty much the same pace!
which also meant they lost all of Friday to set the car up in its race specification.
I think we will have to agree to disagree on this one.
No doubt drivers broke the rule, but was it necessary because the "spirit" of that regulation was to stop drivers driving pass accident zone at full speed. And they weren't driving pass the accident zone.
I think the FIA stewards agree to that to an extent, hence the very minor 5sec penalty.
what's wrong with that?
yes, the drivers broke the rule, no doubt about it. But most of it was marginal and wasn't dangerous, and the FIA acknowledged that when deciding what penalties were appropriate.
What Alonso was so angry about was that if Lewis didn't brake but rather just went for it to pass the SC in the first place, he would have been able to do the same. But of course, he wouldn't say it, because he's crying about how Lewis passed the safety car.
it was all perfect timing for race control. XD
at the moment of Webber's crash the leaders are coming round the final hairpin, when they immediately call the SC to come out... well... it caused all sorts of chaos, and penalties... which made what was going to be a very boring race a lot more exciting. lol
and it keep the fans and the media busy. XD
at the moment of Webber's crash the leaders are coming round the final hairpin, when they immediately call the SC to come out... well... it caused all sorts of chaos, and penalties... which made what was going to be a very boring race a lot more exciting. lol
and it keep the fans and the media busy. XD
Alonso always cry when things don't go his way, and it seems like he've made an ideal match with Ferrari!
And as someone else said earlier, they're making the media and everybody busy, that no one forgot Alonso was useless during the race, which Kobayashi made easy meat of him, and Alonso was stuck behind a Toro Rosso for half the race, which somehow a Force India and a Sauber were able to pass!
that would also create all sort of mayhem. Because the teams are only allowed one set of pit crew for both cars. It'll end up being a mess with cars queuing, some cars trying to come out, some is driving down the lane normally, some just parked waiting for his turn to enter the pit.
The FIA isn't much better themselves in writing the rule book. The drive through penalty have been around for nearly 10 years already. But it's only this year they finally realised that, shall the equivalent of a drive through is handed after the race, there is no way that it's worth the same time as a 10sec stop go!
And because the FIA has no common sense, a 10sec stop go is worth 25sec, and a drive through somehow worths 20sec...
but what they are lacking is common sense and consistency in decisions, but I never expect the FIA stewards to have any of these, so.....
as I said earlier Nico Rosberg got away for it last year. This year, on his 25th bday, the FIA have managed to gift him one point thanks to these penalties.
1. passing the safety car was very marginal
2. it wasn't dangerous for "going too fast" in this scenario
the stewards have the power to issue harsher penalties shall they wish.
But to me, the 5sec penalty shouldn't be issued at all!
They were NOT driving too fast.
The race control would set a "time" which drivers must adhere to on that particular lap when the SC come out. In order to avoid drivers driving too fast into an accident zone.
BUT, all the drivers involved was AHEAD of the crash, some were VERY CLOSE to the pit entry, such as Button. What do you expect them to do? STOP AT THE PIT ENTRANCE to adhere to the time and possibly cause a massive pile up at the pitlane entrance?
Nico Rosberg had the same thing last year, most probably at this same track, and got away unpunished.
I think the stewards have power to black flag a driver if the pass on SC was deliberate, there must be something in the rules to allow that to happen. And a whole host of other things could happen for "bringing the sport into disrepute".
But the one with Lewis was really very marginal, and damn that SLS is quick.
or on hindsight the SC should've waited till the pack have all passed.
race control have actually been pretty damn quick in scrambling out the SC after seeing Webber flying into the air, they must have expected something far worse as the medical car was right behind the safety car too, but at that point of time Vettel and co was most probably going into the final corner or at the start/finish straight already.
the SC was on the TV screen pretty damn quick immediately after Webber's crash.
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50ish seconds gap? did you watched the same race as everyone else did?
Vettel "passed" the safety car too.
it is ok to pass the safety car as long as it is before that safety car line which was painted on the track. Lewis thought twice about that but by the time he tried out accelerate the safety car it was too late.
1). If Lewis didn't slam on the brakes he'd be ok.
2). F1 drivers can't see out the side of the car thanks to the HANS device, so Lewis couldn't see where the safety car is, because he was beside it.
something is seriously wrong. All the drivers investigated is being handed 5 seconds penalty, which isn't much. But it is just not justified.
But what the freak did FIA expect the drivers to do? Stop the freaken car just before the pit entry to ensure they comply with the time required? They were all ahead of the accident that caused the safety car, and some of them were pretty much at the pit entry when the SC board came out.
Now Alonso is 8th, Buemi ninth, Rosberg got a point, De la Rosa out of it. This is crazy!
It wasn't a scandal before these penalties, but it sure is now...
But what the freak did FIA expect the drivers to do? Stop the freaken car just before the pit entry to ensure they comply with the time required? They were all ahead of the accident that caused the safety car, and some of them were pretty much at the pit entry when the SC board came out.
Now Alonso is 8th, Buemi ninth, Rosberg got a point, De la Rosa out of it. This is crazy!
It wasn't a scandal before these penalties, but it sure is now...
Alonso is now crying about the race being "manipulated".
But he was the one that benefited and won from a truly "manipulated" race, manipulated for his advantage, so he should either admit he shouldn't have won that Singapore GP too or just STFU.
He even said "Then with the safety car I would have finished where I finished in ninth, and Hamilton in eighth."
But he only finished 9th because of his inability to pass Buemi in a Toro Rosso. Which was something that a Force India and a BMW Sauber managed to do... lol
But he was the one that benefited and won from a truly "manipulated" race, manipulated for his advantage, so he should either admit he shouldn't have won that Singapore GP too or just STFU.
He even said "Then with the safety car I would have finished where I finished in ninth, and Hamilton in eighth."
But he only finished 9th because of his inability to pass Buemi in a Toro Rosso. Which was something that a Force India and a BMW Sauber managed to do... lol
that was a Christian Horner look-alike
Kobayashi braked sooooooooo much later than Alonso, and somehow flicked it sideways into the corner and made that stick! AMAZING!!
Peter Sauber should forgive him for all his first lap crashes after today!
the safety car was scramble out. They were at the end of the lap. Most of them could not have possibly slow down to satisfy that lap time unless they stop at the pitlane entry.
Stupid regulation and stupid safety car procedure.
I think Jensen is setting fast laps now just in case of being handed a time penalty.
But I thought most of these cars were ahead of the accident when the safety car was "coming out". It would be a crap idea to ask them to come to a crawl just to satisfy that time.
I think Martin Brundle commented before, only if the incident happened towards the end of the race (5 laps or something, couldn't remember), where the stewards wouldn't have time to think about it properly. Then the investigation after the race could be a time penalty.
And the safety car incident was very early in the race.
Not 100% sure through...
PS. De la Rosa (10th) is holding everyone else up nicely. At this rate Kobayashi should be able to come back out in 9th when he pit.
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