Got it working, thanks guys for the help . Really cool application. Thanks Soeren for this great tool

I've tried softening the dampers by about 1 or 2 Ns but then the car either bounces on entry if you're going in fast or if going in slow for a fast exit, bounces on exit (literally bounces off the ground). One of the reasons why I'm considering the alternate suspension settings is because we have to note that the 260 N springs have been specifically set for the 911 GT3 Cup car, and not the FZR. They're similair but still, they're different enough for certain settings.

I'll be doing some more testing tonight. I would greatly appreciate it if a lot of you could attend as the more drivers racing, the more data I can gather and feedback. The set has to be somewhat neutral, if not a bit understeery to be well suited for most drivers.

ah... :doh:

Hi! Please vote for the start time thts most suited to you.

Team Name: Dynamic Racing
Car Number: 16
Drivers:
T. Mann (tomylee) GER
J. Simek (Kdovi) CZE

Will notify of 3rd driver soon.

Quote from Soeren Scharf :

I just wonder why I have written such a detailed tutorial with screenshots included

Because not all of us speak German . Thanks for the help , much appreciated .

Quote from Dru :

question.

Yuo have start times as either 7 or 8 GMT

At the moment UK is running +1, with most of Europe +2 or far Europe +3

Your going to be running this on a 'school night'

1 hour for qualifying and then 2 races of probably 30 minutes each right?

Some people are going to be up late i think

Well, its all about whats most suited for the majority. As there are 9 european entrants and two in Africa (Darryn and myself), we are between GMT+2 and +3 so the earlier it is, the better for us really. The reason why I've chosen those start times is to allow for people who have just come back from work or school to eat dinner and then get racing. If you guys would like the event to start earlier, I can make a new topic with two more start times of 5 and 6 PM GMT.

Quote from Dru :

your setups are not consistant with the rules you have set

Think you need to go proof check them m8

for instance in your normal set the added mass is at 25%

your rules say this must be a minimum of 37%

errors like this will come back at bite you. also the way you have explained it is poor. I would seperate out ALL the fixed criteria in one section. Then the 'minimum settings' in a onther, then finally 'free' section, that way it is clear as black and white and not open to 'interpretation'

Hope you see the constructive parts of this post

Regards,

Dru.

Yeah, sorry about that . I'll make sure to check the sets if I adjust the setup restrictions. Thanks for bringing up the point of changing setup in pit stops. Unfortunately, I have very poor knowledge of programming so I wouldn't be able to create an application to detect setup changes in pit stops so I'll try and think of something of how to scrutineer that.

Regarding tyre pressures, I'm aware that the fronts usually max out around 100 degrees (optimum all the time) while the rears can go up to 110-120. I'm going to do some testing tonight with Benji so will talk to him about how we can balance fix the tyre pressures problem.

As for the constant rule changes, I apologise for it but really, its hard to setup the FZR in general, let alone set it up to work with all tracks which is why, some rules are being adjusted. I'll post the sets with the updated rule changes so far in the Setup Restrictions topic.

About the clarity of whats restricted and whats not, honestly, I don't think theres much to it . First part is restricted settings, 2nd part is adjustable settings .

I did set the InSim port to 32301 like the default of the program, doesn't work

For reference to which values to use , check the setup restrictions topic here. I've stated two fixed suspension settings.

try this one (based on the alternate setup restrictions in the Setup Restrictions topic)

yeah, sorry, we're having some difficulties with some server lag issues. It'll be fixed soon.

Quote from R3DMAN :

i may of missed it but why are we racing 2 races?

why just not 1?

session format . The official Porsche Supercup have 4 sessions (2 x qualifying sessions and 2 x races (each 70 Km). Initially, I wanted to make this league a two day event but decided to make it one day to avoid the possibility of drivers not being able to attend both days so I stripped out one of the qualifying sessions and left the 2 races.

Thanks Chris! skins are fine. Nice skins

Hi! I just downloaded your program but I get this error msg when I try and connect to LFS through the program.

InSim - TCP : did not receive InSimInit packet

I set the Insim port in game and through my LFS shortcut but it still gives me the error. Any way I can fix this? thanks

Car liveries:

Both cars within a team must be identical with the exceptions of wing mirror colour (Primary driver must be red (RGB: 255, 0, 0) and secondary driver flourescent green (RGB: 192, 255, 0)), driver tags with their representative country's flag (provided by league administrator) and their number boards (provided by league administrator)

Regarding privateer's skins, they must use Turquoise (RGB: 0, 255, 255) for their mirror colours.

The windscreen visor sticker and GT3 Cup emblem (found at the back of the car) aren't to be removed or adjusted. If the skin shows that they have been removed or modified, the livery is not acceptable.

A skin kit will be provided by the league administrator with yellow marked areas, showing where the number board and driver tags will be placed with the windscreen visor and GT3 Cup emblem included.

In the case that a team can't / don't know how to create a livery, a skin can be provided by the league administrator. There are 3 colours (Primary, Secondary and Line) used in the skin where by choice of the team, can notify the league administrator of their chosen colours. It's preferable if specific RGB values can be provided so as to skip the trial and error phase.

NOTE: number boards and nametags are to be made only by the league administrator and then provided to each team.

Example: for those who don't have skins.



Primary: White Secondary: Grey Line: Silver

Numberboard:



Car Numbers:
Due to this being the first season of the league, car numbers can't be given based on the previous year standings so I will assign numbers based on time of registration. The sooner you register, the more chance you get to have 01

Last edited by Leprekaun, Sun 8 Jun 2008, 12:31.

sure .

Yeah, I'm sorry for not stating which colour is used for which driver. Its ok actually, primary driver can have red and driver #2 can have flourescent green

they're good but D. Kesper's and S. Carls' skin kit isn't aligned properly with M. Schulz and N. Pinheiro's skin. Please place all skin kits at 0, 0 pixels.

Also, the mirror colour should be the same for both primary drivers of both teams. N. Pinheiro's mirrors are flourescent green while M. Schulz's skin is red so please adjust that as well.

Last edited by Leprekaun, Wed 28 May 2008, 14:57.

Fixed settings

Suspension

Spring stiffness: 102.3 N/mm R / 87.8 N/mm F

Bump Damping: 8.3 Ns/mm R / 6.8 Ns/mm F

Rebound Damping: 10.5 Ns/mm R / 9.8 Ns/mm F

NOTE: Spring stiffness and bump dampers have been set by the average calculation of all WR sets. Extra: Also, Anti Roll bars are based on the average of all WR sets but you can change it if you want.

Front wing: non-adjustable (1 degree)

Number of permitted tyre compounds: 1 (R3)

Added mass position: 37%

(possibility to change to 100%)

Maximum brake power per wheel: 1869 Nm

Differential: Power: 40% / Coast: 60% / Preload: 180 Nm)

Fixed gear ratios:

1st: 3.167

2nd: 2.133

3rd: 1.722

4th: 1.400

5th: 1.130

6th: 0.931

Final Drive: 4.000


Adjustable settings

Camber

Caster

Toe In

Rear wing: (12 degrees max)

Ride height: (100mm max)

Anti Roll Bar

Steering lock

Parallel Steer

Tyre Pressures:

Brake bias (advice: 60% is good)

Last edited by Leprekaun, Wed 4 Jun 2008, 19:39.

At the moment, in suspension, only ride height and anti roll bars are adjustable, everything else has to stay as it is.

Fixed settings:

Spring stiffness: 250 N/mm R / 250 N/mm F

Bump Damping: 8.3 Ns/mm R / 6.8 Ns/mm F

Rebound Damping: 10.5 Ns/mm R / 9.8 Ns/mm F

NOTE: Dampers have been set by the average calculation of all WR sets.

For tyres, according to lovretta, minimum pressures are 143 kPa F and 132 kPa rear.

Camber, caster and Toe In are fully adjustable.

Front wing can't be adjusted (at the moment, I'm not sure if it has to be set at 1 degree or 4), rear wing is adjustable up to 12 degrees.

You must use only one tyre compound (R3s) for both qualifying and race.

The added mass position must be placed at 25% (may change to 96% to simulate the weight distribution of the 997 GT3 Cup car) with the driver weight included.

Maximum brake power per wheel is 1869 Nm (average brake power of all WR sets combined). Brake bias is adjustable but is advised to use 60%

Fixed differential setting (power: 40% / coast: 60% / preload: 180 Nm)

Fixed gear ratios:

1st: 3.167

2nd: 2.133

3rd: 1.722

4th: 1.400

5th: 1.130

6th: 0.931

Final Drive: 4.000

I've attached the set based on the following setup restrictions.

NOTE: the setup restrictions are subject to change until I can find out exactly whats restricted and to what value and how adjustable are the parts that are allowed to be adjsted.

thanks Benji . About the downforce bit, can you link to the document where you found it?

thanks!

Hi all! I know this is a bit of a weird question but I'm interested to know where I can find the flags of the LFS forum as I may use them for the FZ50 GT3 Cup. Thanks!

Hi all! in order to familiarise everyone with the session format and to see how things go in a practice race, I've decided to hold a test event. You're not obliged to attend but I advise you to. Very simple really, the event will be a complete simulation of the first round (Blackwood, 1 x 45 minute qualifying session, 2 x 21 lap races) and start time will be determined by this poll.

Event info:

Date: June 5th, 2008

Start time: 7 / 8 PM GMT

Session format:

Qualifying session (45 minutes)

Race 1 / 21 laps (grid determined by qualifying positions)

Race 2 / 21 laps (grid determined by finishing positions of Race 1)

You're welcome to join, even if you're only thinking about joining the league.

If you wish to sign up for this event, leave a reply in this thread or send me a PM so that I can send the password for the day of the race .

Hope to see you all there .

Kind Regards,

Leprekaun

FZ50 GT3 Cup League Administrator


Registered drivers:

1. Speedy Pro
2. [DR] Leprekaun
3. commandermas
4. Paul Joslin
5. PRT I Abbas
6. Chris Redman
7. carlson74
8. bbman
9. moppaking
10. Dennis93
11. himself
12. spankmeyer
13. DJeranDOS
14. LiMiTED
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Last edited by Leprekaun, Mon 2 Jun 2008, 13:24.