thx for the patch and progress report !

looking already forward for the next test patches and updates .

Quote from Bmxtwins :

I don't mean to be that guy.... but I don't understand what any of this does. LFS can run on a toaster, is this new DX11 that much better looking?

there are zero major visible difference, only dev's skills to code their own graphical engine are making the difference.

Quote from edge3147 :

The point I am trying to make is development progress might be faster than it is currently by catering to today's hardware and software and not hardware that is a decade old now.

newer DX technology won't magically draw polycount/textures or making physics code by themselves, its all depend of devs motivation and talent, with today's hardware you can increase polycount or making some heavy effect and DX9 can do all of that with ease, IMO the graphical engine and how is coded is more important than DX version 95% of feature that you can see in modern game is provided by how graphical engin are coded.

Quote from edge3147 :

I understand your point in wanting to stay with XP and DX9, but look at this from a technical standpoint. XP is not longer supported with security updates. Meaning that everyone who is using XP is going to be very vulnerable to being exploited and exposed. We are talking about an OS that is over 12 years old. How do you expect to progress and develop a physics engine that isn't slow when you are catering to hardware that is equally old, slow and out of date.

To advance you have to move out of your comfort zone and try new things, otherwise those who are not afraid of change and progression will move past you like a super car flying by a moped on the motorway.

the vulnerability problem is not on xp, but on the person who are using their pc and download the first link that appear on a random popup.

and why you want him to change DX, while lfs has not yet exploited even 1% of DX9 possibility, the change are needed only if scawen want to make some features that DX9 hasn't.

each one work with stuff that can help him and provide simplicity and easiness.

some people should stop imposing their opinion to others, DX9 have great potential and have all stuff that a artiste/programmer needed to make great piece of art, its all about dev's talent to how model/textures/code their work and only with that they can make realistic result, newer version of DX have nothing to do with good graphical quality.

Quote from fatalunfair :

I just bought Xeon 1231v3 processor for my next computer build, will be my first self-built one. H97 motherboard because I can't overclock a Xeon and I don't care about that really, just adds more power consumption and barely affects fps. Still going with my old GPU as the GPU I was looking for got a little price bump so I'm just waiting a little longer.

Z chipset are only for who's want overclock their K CPU, there is no différence between H or Z or whatever thats what am trying to say.

Quote from Fordman :

Jeez peeps, like I said, I had a H61 shitset, and my GTX didn't work, full stop, so I upgraded, I had to. I was only going on what I read "O/C forum, Tomshardware, to name a couple of where I found reference to this and performance issues with certain H** motherboards and GTX cards.

I said, he would be fine ( shop built ) and I know chipset's doesn't make a difference, but sometimes they "do" with compatability issues with certain types of GFX cards. a Quick google and you find this, as well as many others:

http://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/D ... hua-H61-uATX/td-p/2517883

Fordie

when i read HP on your link...., you know that manufacturer have special and modified motherboard with in most case cheap bad qualities compound, there is nothing to do with Asus,msi,gigabyte...etc motherboard who are better quality builded.

I thought you had "normal" H chipset motherboard, so you can't really compare manufacturer motherboard with major hardware brand.

ps : sorry for my approximative english.

Quote from Fordman :

If you brought it all as a package, then you will be fine, as they know what they are doing. I only said H chipset, as I had H61 and my GTX didn't work with it, so I upgraded to a Z77 ( only because what i read )



Runs perfectly fine here, no O/C or Unlocked CPU

Fordie

ofc that work fine, but there is no performance difference between chipset Z B or H, only overclocking capabilities with Z series if you have Intel core I5/7 xxxxK ( K for unlocked ).

so nothing wrong with H81 chipset shimon-ifraimov .

Quote from Fordman :

I just go by all the reviews I read when I done my upgrade, and was advised to steer clear of the H** chipsets, hence why I went for the Z77 chipset as some of the H chipsets had problems with high powered Nvidia cards....I experienced that, hence why I brought a new MB

Here's my specs:

[email protected]
Z77 Pro Motherboard
16GB DDR Matched 1600 Memory
1TB Sata Drive
Geforce GTX 750ti 2GB
Hann-G 27" Wide HDMI Monitor

Fordie

I dont know the reviews you talking about but many hardware website have a problem with "entry prices" hardware which calling them all shit... anyway what I know is the Z chipset is useless if you dont have unlocked CPU for overclocking, depend on motherboard brand B or H series are just fine for 99% of time, of cours you can find some high end motherboard with special sound controller or double bios, but all this has nothing to do with chipset or performance ingame.

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Quote from Fordman :

Seriously??? I have lower specs than him and I am hitting around 120-130fps with a 1080p HDMI resolution.
OK I have more Ram (double), but his GFX card is better than mine, his processor is better than mine, and he has SSD, I don't.
Regards

Fordie

PS - Oh wait, just seen his problem, he has H81 chipset...this will bring his FPS down quite I bit, so you might be right Bose

chipset has nothing to do with fps's, with his specs he can play probably every game in the market with high/ultra setting.

i didnt calculate loading time in term of ms, but i tested on my pc and loading time are dramatically decreasing, now i have like 0.1 second to load any track even high res lynce FE with my trees textures! 0o

great work Daniel! that what lfs beta tester can do !

let him finish this 3d patch after that we can speak about " near future update ".

but I think its intermediate update to have good basis for s3 content, maybe it will be graphics update + tires physique.

Quote from Scawen :

Hi paovi, thanks for the info. Please can we have more information? This will soon be the official version so we need to fix it.

1) At exactly which point does it crash? Do you see the race setup screen, and then it crashes when you press "go" or does it crash before that, when you are loading the track?

2) Can you provide information about the crash? Usually Windows gives you a dialog and you can click "more information" or something like that and it gives you information about the faulting module and the crash address or crash offset.

3) At the moment yours is the only known case of a crash. Are you using 32 or 64 bit Windows 8?

maybe his DX is not updated.

working fine as usual, apart that missing screen when race restart.

look like it's ready for stable patch.

what i mean by simple situation, for example :

Scawen:

Quote :

Yes... sorry we couldn't get a patch out for Easter.

But we are working on things which you will like. Can't say more unfortunately!

Franky.S:

Quote :

havnt you been saying that for 5 years now?

Stölzel:

Quote :

Hehe, I think I have something sometimes even a few years ago heard

Bose321:

Quote :

Little mean, but true...

Scawen:

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Now you know why it's better for us not to say anything at all!

when you see this...... it's clear scawen are trying to communicate with community sometimes, but some member are making this impossible to him because of troll/imature comments who don't care about lfs progression, same things with some new memeber or old lfs user bored by community behavior.

this is why I said that not only the whining thread/comments are making the current LFS situation.

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Quote from bishtop :

While anyone is entitled to there opinion regardless of miles driven ect id reckon that someone with very few laps would most likely be the type of person who would moan regardless of the current situation

no need 1 million of laps to understand à very simple situation , this is just an argument to allow some troll/useless comments/responses.

Quote from Eclipsed :

What's the big deal about updates? Does it automatically make LFS much more better hobby if it had a recent update? It's one of the best sims out there (in few categories even unbeaten),but it's still not good? In that case it will never be good enough for their high standarts,why these people still hang around here?

whiner still and will be on all modern games and we can't do anything about that, but the big problem is the troll/mock/elitist responses that will start a flame war on every thread, you can't blame only whiner about this situation.....

Quote from Gutholz :

No, sorry but that is just excuses from people who have never really played anyway.

No stats reset:

Even if the stats were reseted: that was so many years ago.
From 2008 to today could only do some dozen laps because "no servers, no players"?
Not even with XRG or FBM on Blackwood?
It is not about a "million km's" or thousands or even only hundreds - it is literally handful of laps. Like 5 laps in many years.

I think that is just prejudices.
You too could have joined these races but instead, at the same time, you were instead online at "FRANCE PRO CRASH" doing 2 laps races with 3 cars
Can be pastime too, but no need to act as if that is everything.
LFS situation is what you make of it.

and from my rallying in france pro crash yesterday you make a deduction from my all past lfs experience ?

you need to understand that some people have a favorite track/cars combo, no need to play 10 lap on each combo to understand what is lfs situation, and its simple :

some personnes are bored to waiting for a major update each years, and its their right to be unhappy, but the most annoying things that make forum/lfs like what you see is the troll/elitiste responses from some guys like you, who are making even more prejudice to lfs community, and ofc the lack of admin action to delete those whining/troll/elitiste comment/thread from this forum.

Quote from The Very End :

Then again, they might have reseted their statestics or done billions of miles before the reset of the stats in 2008. I am so damn borred by the retarded veiw that you have to have done at least 1 million km's to be able to complain on this forum.

+1 LFS situation is very clear from outside, even if someone had never touched lfs in his life.

apart this shit booking system, racing is really smooth for an alpha mp.

it is so hard to make direct joint with spec system ? or scawen is a pure genius to making this alone lol ?

Quote from Scawen :

Yes... sorry we couldn't get a patch out for Easter.

But we are working on things which you will like. Can't say more unfortunately!

c'mon Scawen just a preview for once.

for now 3d patch are taking longer time than I expected, or there is more changing in the initial plan, I dont know if scawen is working on tyres physics and 3d at the same times...... but the more days pass the more lfs need some fresh air.

lfs forum is originally made to discuss about lfs, so if there's nothing to talk about (lack of update .... etc) people will killing each other with trolls until the games will completely dead.
the solution is either the moderator become a bit more harsh, or lfs dev bring much more activity with development to keep people involved with lfs.

ah didn't know that one have already done same thing , thx for link.

but watch out i see on the screen too much clouds, they will kill fps in game.

I made some tweaking on AC cfg to make cloudy day , if somone are interesed here a link ( paste it into AC/system/cfg/ ) :http://www.mediafire.com/downl ... yyar922/cloudy_day_AC.rar





and save original cfg files before any modification to return to default sky.