Well, exciting league I'm in. Only one other team actually has drivers, but the team manager doesn't seem to be active (no qualifying times). Still I only got 1st because Sarah Porsche crashed out in lap 13.

And my sponsor negotiating is really slow. It's gonna take forever before anyone will offer a deal, it seems. I guess I should have gotten a commercial manager .

Edit: And a question: If it says the track is damp right now, will it stay like that for tonights race?

Quote from Gentlefoot :

No - but I saw it in the cat-alogue

Well, you definitely are the (Lion-)King of cat puns, that's for sure, and this thread obviously had a cat-alytic effect on that gift of yours .

(I know, I'm a cheap copy-cat)

Thx for trying anyway. Coud have been good, you never know.

You wouldn't happen to own "Kitty Litterature", the "purr-fect gift for any cat lover", Gentlefoot .

Sid seems to be an extremely nearsighted wrecker if you ask me. He needs glasses and should concentrate mor on racing than on examining the mini-map .

Cute cat, tbh, Astra .

Thx Tweaker and Quicksilver, glad you like the livery .

To be fair, though: JJ72's Amon LX4 was even below mine and it got 126 votes. So it doesn't seem as if the result had anything to do with the order of the skins on the voting-page.

And unless 10 more people openly declare to not have seen my skin on the voting page and would have voted for it if they had, I'm not going to contest the election .

Edit: by high-res you mean 2048x2048, Quicksilver?

I bought the Turbo Jam engine for 180.000, as the other available one was soo crap that I was afraid to not finish a single race with it. Seems that was my first mistake already. I also hired a crap designer of which I can't get rid of without loosing too much money to not being able to race.

My drivers are not too bad, though -- I guess. They both are supposedly good with sponsors and one is a girl. Which probably does not make any difference in this game, though. It should however. We all know that it's much easier to find sponsors if the driver is a (fairly good looking) girl .

Well, I see how it goes. If it turns out that my strategy is pure crap, I can always start from scratch .

I can't afford all departments, though. My engine is too damn expensive.

Okay, I was assigned to 71st division tonight and started my team.

A couple of questions for the veterans here:

1. Do I need a commercial manager to negotiate sponsors (I don't have one but I'm working on two deals each with 50% right now)?

2. Does it make any sense at all to hire a (crap) designer just yet to enhance my components?

Just need it a little startup help here .

Quote from Hankstar :

What a silly thread

Check it out for yourself though - click one of my signature heads (second one along) ...

Nice voice, Hankstar.

Mine is rather croaky as far as I can tell and a tad too high pitched for my liking (for some reason it seems to be deeper when I speak english, though). The positive side effect is that I don't have to raise it in order to be heard through cackle. That's what I'm told at least.


This is a strange thread, tbh.

Quote from Shotglass :

kev is absolutely right ... way too many dupes
i hope the green volante classic makes it into the final cut i really do like that one

Sure, kev is always right, but afaik, he has not even posted in this thread .

Still, I don't see how the adaptation of a masterpiece of a skin would render the original idea/concept of that masterpiece worthless. You could maybe go as far as saying that the creator of that skin might have been a little lazy or unimaginative to only make one skin and one adaptation of that skin instead of two different skins, but than again, if your voting by that logic, everybody who entered only one skin should not have gotten any votes at all for being even lazier. And to call it "dupes" is outright insulting if I'm not mistaken about the meaning of the word.

I just signed up and after getting my confirmation code and locking in I get this:

Quote :

Your account has not been associated with a league, this could occur if you experienced problems during your account creation or if you have recently re-enabled an account that has been dorment for some time. Please wait until after the next end of season tick when you will be assigned a league number.

Would anybody happen to know what that means? Afaik I didn't experience any problems during account creation and I certainly didn't re-enable an old account .

Quote from Blackout :

It depends how you think about it. But for me there is 12 skins which are not in any way original because they have identical copy.

What I don't understand about this reasoning is, how an identical copy for a different car devaluates the "original"... In other words: Does a copy of Guernica make Picassos original less of a masterpiece? (not that any of the skins are in anyway comparable to Guernica, of course )

Quote from Blackout :

12 copy&paste jobs in the top 20. What's the point having identical skins on two different cars, I don't know.

How could there be 12 copy&paste jobs if there's only 2 times 10 skins? That's a theoretical maximum of 10 copy&paste jobs if you ask me .

Anyway, pure disappointment for me . There are actually 2 skins out of the 20 I like and I fear those will not even be included by the devs. But that's democracy, I suppose .

I don't mind the way the agree-function is implemented right now. Whether it will be of some benefit, I don't know, but we'll see.

What I strongly oppose is a "thank you not"/"disagree"-button as has been suggested. That one will most definitely be abused by immature forum-users. But I really doubt Victor ever considered such an option anyway.

Since many people committed themselves, I might as well admit that Justin's cell-skin was also my unrivaled number 1 pick. But I've always been a fan of justin's skins. I just like his style .

Quote from Blackout :

(...) but that's just a matter of taste.

Funny, but for me personally that's just about all this vote is about.

I don't care how complex a skin is or whether there's a second version of it for the other car. If I like it and if it's technically well made, I vote for it. What's the point in disregarding a skin for "formal" reasons?

Seems like some people are making a science out of this vote.

Quote from Widdowmaker :

Well - I have to say..... Only 1 skin got my vote, but in the order of decency - I will find 4 more to vote for.

It stands out as a clear winner in my minds eye - but there is more than 1 prize to be won.

I will spend the rest of the week selecting the next 4.

I had the same problem. Only one clear winner for me and the rest of the votes (now 5) is still subject to change .

Thx, Victor. Although it's still possible to vote for 6 LX6-skins and no LX4 (or vice versa). But hopefully people will prorate their votes all by themselves.

Probably too late now, but would it not have been better if voting for LX4 and LX6 had been seperated? Almost all my top-five picks would actually be LX6es, but I forced myself to vote for two LX4s at least to prevent a worst case scenario... .

Edit: hmpf, shinzooka is a tyre-brand? Never knew that ...

No, it stops today at 12.00 PM UTC .

And problem's solved already, file-size of my screenshot was too big, but instead of telling me that it told me the above error.

Sorry for being stupid .

Linsen

Hi devs,

I'm getting an error message when trying to upload my skins for the skinning competition. It says "UPLOAD ERROR : You did not upload a screenshot" even thogh I was uploading a screenshot.

Please help! Quickly!

Thx, Linsen

Last edited by Linsen, Sun 29 Jul 2007, 23:17.

I've compiled a small list of a couple of racetracks for the Scaviers to have a guideline. Just to lighten the workload, you know.

List 1

And since that one is a little USA-biased, here's another one:

List 2

Those are just the ones that need implementation asap, preferably in the next patch, but I could wait till Z if neccessary.

Quote from BlueFlame :

Thanks Linsen, your the sturdy pillar this Community needs!

Glad you took the troll-definition to heart and are acting accordingly .

One more thing to keep in mind, though: trolling does not work with everybody. Some people are just not that easily provoked .

Btw, here's Scawens take on the collision issue from a thread only a little under one month old:

Quote from Scawen :

OK this is becoming a bit too surreal now, so I will close the thread.

I don't position things on my todo list based on forum polls.

The collision detection and reaction has been on my list for a long time.

As stated already, it has not changed because we have had physically compatible updates.

Let me be clear : this thread has changed nothing. The issue was obviously already on my list.

Quote from ldriver :

Then you must race rarely in south city because when you hit a wall there you have 80% chance of flying .

There's really no need to speculate about how much I drive where. There's a laps chart available through LFS-world, you know .

But anyway, isn't that besides the point? If you hit a wall, your race is likely to be over in rL anyway, so I don't see that much of a problem with those situations in LFS. If a slight nudge by another racer makes you spin or go flying, that's where the trouble with LFS starts. But those situations are not all that common in my experience .

Quote from BlueFlame :

I think you proved yourself wrong there mate, because i DID ask what 'troll' means of Which nobody has enlightened me

Only one definition from the Urban Dictionary:
"Troll: One who purposely and deliberately (that purpose usually being self-amusement) starts an argument in a manner which attacks others on a forum without in any way listening to the arguments proposed by his or her peers. He will spark of such an argument via the use of ad hominem attacks (i.e. 'you're nothing but a fanboy' is a popular phrase) with no substance or relevence to back them up as well as straw man arguments, which he uses to simply avoid addressing the essence of the issue."

And I repeat: Nobody is denying that the collision system needs improvement. Only the opinions on how big a problem that is and how urgent that need for improvement is differ.

Personally, I rarely have collision system related problems .