Quote from CARRERA GT :

Who will beat that number?

I guess it has to be me, +30000.

Any one else :bump:

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Quote from squidhead :

Not entirely correct.
Wangan Midnight, is a 26 episode series, about street racers, with no drifting involved. It's quite good up until the mid of the season, where the racing is not the main focus, but the people and the sacrifices they make to be the fastest one on Wangan Sen (a Yokohama to Ichikawa expressway). After the mid of the season the series are above average, and I'd say it's worth a watch.

Never heard of that future formula 1 anime though.

I dont like anything street racing related. So that's also a no for me

Apathy defines our generation. Therefore, even if a person is incredibly intelligent. Subjects that the person "could not care less about" will have close to 0 thought on it. Therefore seemingly "common sense" connections (such as how G Force affects the drivers) will be largely ignored.

Sure...stupid people wont be able to make that connection on their own. But not everybody who doesnt make that connection are stupid. Again, all the Ivy Leagues i've met had no idea that G Forces actually makes the race car driver's job much more physical. Granted, when I explained that to them they were like "oh...ok makes sense" and just walked away. They didnt make that connection before because they were apathetic to the point where they wouldn't have the slightest thought about the subject but not because they were stupid.

I'll give another example, playing piano the wrong way can actually injure you to the point where you wont be able to play piano again for a long period of time (or even for the rest of your life.) Sometimes in extreme situations you'll lose the ability to use your hand effectively (Schumann, Flesher, etc.) That's "common sense" to musicians cause of the way the piano contorts the hand (this is also taught in music class which is mandatory for a lot of schools i went to)...did you know that before? Probably not. Does that make you stupid? No...not necessarily. Did you care about this making this connection? Likely not either.

Apathy defines and destroys our generation.

Quote from Forbin :

Basic Physics is taught in public school, or at least it is where I'm from. Same for Trig.

Anyone who has ever driven a car, been on a rollercoaster, or flown in an airplane understands G's.

Dont know... G Forces might be "common sense" but I still know people who have no idea that G Forces effect the race car the way it does (which is why most people I know here dont consider racing an actual "sport")

And I'm currently living in the East Coast, going to school there as well as taking a few classes from an Ivy League college (Cornell).

Even the Ivy leagues I know had no idea that G Forces had that great of an effect on race car drivers. Had I been talking about jet pilots they would have been like "no sh*t". But they figured that race car drivers just "feel a slightly heavier" and that's it...and it isn't enough to cause any physical exertion on the driver...

So no...while theoretically it is common sense...it doesnt necessarily means that people would make that connection (and they usually dont actually)

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Quote from PMD9409 :

What do you guys consider good racing? You say you want no cautions so the field sort of spreads out so you see who the true winner should be (and not have things for show), but at the same time you complain you want closer/better racing. It's hypocritical. Sometimes you can't have both.

I want a middle ground. I dont want a caution every 20 laps but at the same time I also dont want 200 laps of racing without a single caution.

Quote from PMD9409 :

Fixed both.

Well...Danica has danicamania...I'm sure loads of people care even if it's not warranted. Simona is not going to attract any attention much like Sarah Fisher unless she does very well in IndyCar (i.e. wins more than 1 races)

I've always found IndyCar boring on Kentucky and Cali. And ChampCar was fantastic at Eurospeedway. So.....

Quote from PMD9409 :

I just watched a video to see what you are saying. Basically the cars produced less power which made the racing closer. I'd rather watch an Indycar at Richmond where you can't just put a brick on the throttle.

You cant do that even with ChampCar in 2001. And Rockingham's too tight for that anyways.

Quote from TFalke55 :

about china. I read months ago that china is going to build a 1,5 - 2 mile oval for Indy Car races. However, why don't they go to Phasaki (RSA), Rockingham (GBR) and Eurospeedway (DEU)? With Motegi they already have one of the four outa-north-amarican racing ovals.

How about we go to all of them That would be my dream schedule. Getting rid of some boring ovals in the US and replacing them with ovals outside of US.

Quote from TFalke55 :

About the girls. It's going to be interesting how competing Beatriz (BRA) and De Silvestro (SWI) are. De Silvestro already marked something by being faster then Danica at Barber Testings

No one's going to care because she isnt as hot as danica

Quote from JackDaMaster :

Honestly, thats a bad example because its a road course (well, street). NASCAR has local cautions on road courses. (and occasionally on ovals)

Have you seen the 09 Montreal race? Steven Wallace spun at the back of the field and NASCAR kept pulling out cautions because of it.

Quote from JackDaMaster :

Besides the worst one for competition cautions was CORR, where there was a mandatory one in the middle of every race.

Haven't watched CORR since I was a kid. Was CORR really like that? I know that SCORE should be better.

Quote from count.bazley :

In what way? I meant things like throwing random debris cautions and the like and trying to fabricate a close finish in every race. It gets boring quick. I prefer IndyCar and F1 where the guys running the show aren't afraid to have someone dominate a race once in a while.

Agreed, NASCAR does throw way too many cautions. I mean take a look at how the Canadian NASCAR does it's racing. Not BS cautions. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xa1il1GGzsA) and they aren't afraid to give out local cautions like a normal series.

If Canadian NASCAR can do it. There is no excuse why regular NASCAR cant. There's even races when they let a wreck go without a caution on some of the ovals

It appears that there's only 2 manufactures? While the SEATs and Hondas are independent?

The more this season is shaping up the more I want to switch over from a NASCAR fan to an IndyCar fan.

There's a very very interesting line up for this year's IndyCar that will see a few more female drivers apart from Danica Patrick and Sarah Fisher.

I also love how international this season is. I mean IndyCar is essentially "american" racing but there's only 4 full time American drivers full time. The new schedule will also include Brazil. Hopefully we can see Indy in Europe or China in the future
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2 ... son#Team_and_Driver_Chart

The new Sao Paolo track is better now....I mean...it still looks a little mickey mouse. But that doesnt mean the racing has to be bad.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wi ... /commons/7/70/Anhembi.svg

I mean the San Jose street track is very simple and yet it has better racing than Valencia. This Sao Paolo track reminds me of San Jose and that's a good thing. One thing I cant understand tho is why they cant just go to Interlagos....but w/e.

Indy is making all the right decisions. While moving away from an all oval schedule but not completely getting rid of ovals and expanding outside of the US to Canada and Brazil. But the best thing this year...NO MILKA DUNO!!!!!! She dragged the respectability of the indy field down so much even with a part time schedule

Quote from PMD9409 :

I believe the Indy cars were hitting near 9G's at Talladega, the main reason they don't race there.

I heard that a lot of superspeedways are actually banned by IndyCar

Quote from JJ72 :

Cyber formula was very big when I was a kid, there's a schumacher tribute character in it too! It went crazy apeshit with drifting and brain controlling cars in the later part but still a very cool anime, don't expect realism though, it features talking onboard computers, turbo boosters and cars doing 600+kph.

I guess I can stand a bit of drift. I kinda wondered about the writing...oh well, I guess I'll check out Cyber formula. Not like there any other professional racing anime anyways and IGPX doesnt count

Has anybody ever watched this anime?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDtJfNnZm84

I just recently found out about it and it seems like a motorsports anime that's not about drifting for once. It seems kinda good. Is it worth tracking down?

PS There's 4 spinoff/sequel series on this plus 10 video games ....WHY DIDNT I KNOW ABOUT THIS!!! lol

Quote from DeadWolfBones :

http://blog.craftzine.com/arch ... /02/shoebox_race_car.html

Oh so USF1 finished their car?

Quote from Intrepid :

With experienced drivers this wouldn't be so bad but with F1 rookies it is irresponsible to turn up with absolutely zero testing. Even club racers wouldn't dare to do this.

You're going to have only 3 hours testing on Friday and about 20 or so cars on the track at the same time. It's going to be hectic, bordering on dangerous. Even Schumacher felt the need to get some GP2 testing under his belt.

Jaime did well in Hungary but that was with an ordinary well established team and reliable tested car.

Yeah...it'll be interesting to see I'll have to admit

I think Campos is already on their way to start. I mean they said that their "testing" will be the Bahrain race...which is very VERY Mastercard Lola....So....yeah.

USF1 has basically admitted that they cant participate this entire year and are asking to see if they will be able to extend it to 2011. (Read it somewhere idk where).

But FIA has said that they still might not let Stefan F1 in so there might not be a 13th team. Personally I hope that Stefan F1 does come back. Kazuki Nakajima and JV back in F1....oooooh let the praising and mudslinging begin

Quote from UncleBenny :

Did anyone else notice Harvick waving out the window at Danica when he lapped her early in the Nationwide race? I have to find a video of it, he was definitely doing something.

I think Danica thought he was giving her the finger? But the announcers said that he was actually trying to tell Danica to go to the outside line as that's a better line to take?

Wasn't anything special fortunately. All of Hawaii just shut down and there wasn't anything that happened. Of course it is better to be safe than sorry. But the tsunami wasn't there

nah there isnt. LFSCAR's been dead for a very long time. Try the NDR Kyoto 250

Michele Mouton she is not...I'll say that

Quote from boosterfire :

It's already hard enough to get American folks interested in an entirely American F1 team, I don't see them retaining much interest in an American-Serbian team. Especially considering the lack of American drivers.

I don't see how USF1 expected in any way to make the first race. I mean, a few months ago what they had allegedly completed on the car was nothing more than the nose, and it looked like something you'd find on a 1995 F1.

I'd rather have less teams that know what they're doing than a grid full of under-financed teams that have no real idea what's going on at this level of racing.

Do you think Lotus and Virgin both dont know what they are doing??

it seems that the only real true fail would probably be USF1 if they enter, and maybe campos if they dont hustle right now. As for an American-Serbian team...I think by now, just making the grid would be a reward enough...and combining resources would have USF1 a better chance at making a decent effort

Although...I can totally see Branson shooting some very sketchy porn with Lucas, Timo and that VR-01...and the team's name is Virgin F1...

Anderson and Windsor needs to wise up already. In all honesty the merger would be fantastic and it would atleast enable some american effort in F1 and have the effort somewhat decent and not a complete laughing stock.

If this merger doesnt happen the likelihood of USF1 just being there this season is very low and if they do manage to get there they would be so underdeveloped there would be no real point anymore.

If Stefan is willing to merge that's a godsend already. If Anderson and Windsor wants a full US effort with a US car? Well...too bad, maybe you should have organized your team better...i mean, it's not like you were handed you FIA acceptance just now

Too bad the only time I can keep up with ya guys is on the oval

good luck guys

Quote from nightojnr :

Ok that makes alot of sense.

Why is development taking so long?

They needed to completely redo the physics as far as I know. Which...yes does take a long time but by now it's starting to get a little weary to wait for.

Not complaining, just that while Bathurst would be fantastic, there are just a few more immediate things that need to be taken care of atm

I'm all for the idea...but part of the problem is that LFS is going slow enough as it is.

There was a promised new patch that was suppose to have been released over a year ago and there's still no indication that it will be released anytime soon.

Not to mention that they are also working on another real life track: Rockingham, and that has no indication that it will be released in the future as well.

Bathurst will have to be a luxury unfortunately until the devs start to release content at a more regular (and quicker) pace. IMHO, LFS should focus more on what would make it a better sim. Such as damage, a (complete) aero model, break offs, engine damage, track temperature, dynamic wind system, rubber build up, fix buggy barriers, better hit detection.

Only when ALL of those listed above are completed will I start to push for more real life tracks. But for now, those still unfortunately remain a distant luxury. In fact, I'm not even hoping for LFS to improve as a race sim (beyond the promised tyre physics) anymore..which is very unfortunate imho