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MadCat360
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Quote from Ball Bearing Turbo :

By and large iRacing still drives more like a car than LFS does, though often feels less natural - if that makes sense.

It makes a lot of sense. iRacing cars behave very accurately. The Skippy is downright spooky to drive because it is crazily realistic in it's behavior.

But putting a cardboard box on some casters and rolling down a hill in it would feel more like a car than iRacing.

iRacing cars just do a terrible job of communicating what the car is doing. The audio is fine. But the force feedback and visual feedback (head bob) is terrible. The head "physics" only communicates bumps, but it needs to communicate G forces as well. The force feedback just goes slack when the car starts to really work, and doesn't warn of impending slides at all. It's like there is no self aligning torque to transmit and all the force in the wheel is coming from the caster.

That combined with dodgy slide behavior makes it too unforgiving and a chore to drive. I haven't raced for two weeks - I just don't feel engaged by the sim any more.

LFS, Net Kar Pro, and surprisingly GT5 all give very convincing feeling from the cars and actually feel like driving, even if there are problems with all 3.
MadCat360
S2 licensed
Both are awesome!

Though I am going to have to upgrade my OS for BF3.
MadCat360
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I put a lot of stickers on my Miata and got up to 267 MPH. Peanuts compared to some here. I figure the stickers were good for an extra 600 or 700 BHP. Mazda makes good stickers.

I've been at the speed of light but the vehicle was more like a brownie and some cookies that had been tampered with.
MadCat360
S2 licensed
Quote from Ball Bearing Turbo :This is a massive cop out though when it comes to the known limits of computation and simple physics(tm).

No it isn't. No existing computer could ever simulate a tire molecule by molecule in real time. Sometimes that lack of perfection doesn't matter. Sometimes it makes all the difference. That's the art, which clearly iRacing isn't adept at, or has got wrong in some way.

Do you think I'm defending the new model? Because I'm not. It's not what I hoped it would be, in fact I may stop playing if it doesn't start engaging me (didn't race this week). The Skippy now behaves like the real thing (which I've driven quite a bit). Things are still wrong. It still doesn't feel like a real car at all. The HPD and GT feel dead. More like hovecrafts with car-like behavior.

I still prefer LFS's and NetKar Pro's physics, and especially their feel.

But trying to dig into a simulation none of us understands is quite useless. We can observe various effects but, as you must know, in the computer world sometimes the issue is at first glance completely unrelated.
MadCat360
S2 licensed
Quote from Shotglass :er what?
springs are perfeclty easy to simulate in real time
it only become an issue hen you get to the super stiff springs you need to simulate car bodies rigs of rods style

All simulation is approximation. Classic physics has unlimited resolution. Computers don't.

So a computer can only ever simulate to a certain decimal point of accuracy percentage ("fudge factor"). Depending on what is being simulated, a couple of decimal points in accuracy and simulation detail can have extreme impacts on the results, and the computing requirements.

That's where the art lies.
MadCat360
S2 licensed
Brilliant.
MadCat360
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Quote from psy00 : hope they update the cars in time

At least one of the base content cars should be updated well before your sub runs out. They have mentioned that they intend to release the rest of the cars over the next 3 months.
MadCat360
S2 licensed
Quote from psy00 :Tried the 12$ offer too i tested the cars and tracks with these offer but i don't like it very much , i still prefer nkpro handling , anyway i have 3 months to play with it till i'm bored lol

None of the base content cars have the new tire physics yet. I'd imagine they will before your 3 months are up.
MadCat360
S2 licensed
Mustang, Solstice and the two MX-5s use the BFG R1 tire.
MadCat360
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Yeah the cars still don't feel like real cars. They feel like sim cars.
MadCat360
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Quote from Gnomie :So.. the NTM is messed up? What are people saying about it in the iRacing forums? Is it a total shitfest..?

Complete shitfest. The NTM seems very polarizing. Lots of people at both extremes, hate it and love it.

I think it's an improvement but it still needs work. The Ford GT does some very strange things.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLfCdfkvgYs
MadCat360
S2 licensed
The HPD is really kicking my ass but my, what a glorious machine. Just kinda wish we had the traction control system the real one has...
MadCat360
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Quote from Jertje :I only drove the Skippy for a couple of laps around Summit Point and it did feel like an understeering pig. Meh.

The real one is an understeering pig when on the throttle.
MadCat360
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Is anyone else severely disappointed that the LMS series only has 45 minute races with two 60-minute enduros?
MadCat360
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I wonder how long it'll be down for?
MadCat360
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Quote from DeKo :Well, that's bullshit. Hundreds, maybe thousands of people didn't even get a chance to register.

I know, right? Kinda a disaster. I really hope they can use this data. They'll probably have another test race before the 500.
MadCat360
S2 licensed
More internal server error. Awesome.
MadCat360
S2 licensed
Nearly 1,000 registered, and I got in! Now I stop doing ANYTHING on their servers.
MadCat360
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Well I'm glad it's working now.

Not.
MadCat360
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New race time: 4:45 EST.
MadCat360
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OMG GUIS, stop hitting F5!!! lol
MadCat360
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Quote from baSh0r :Some say... we will get our 5$ then anyway for putting efford in it and showing once again the servers are rubbish!

I sure hope so. I wanted the credits!
MadCat360
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Quote from PMD9409 :
It's awful to see it when they hook the guys rear end and both cars go flying off track. Then you look at the replay just to see the contact really never happened. I've seen it in 3-5 times in the past week, at Dover (trucks), Darlington (Cup), Mosport (Indy), and F1 (Road America).

I had one of those in T1 at Phillip Island yesterday in the Corvette. Could have driven a Vespa through the gap between our bumpers, but my race was still over.

iRacing does a lot right, and they're working quickly on fixing the things that are wrong.
MadCat360
S2 licensed
Quote from S14 DRIFT :

Shame about the RAH-66...in my opinion the worlds greatest and most elegant helicopter.

Unfortunately it was pretty DOA. It was no stealthier than other choppers (sound, radar and IR signature), and it was more lightly armored. The original didn't even have weapons - it was designed to spot targets for Apache Longbows. The armaments were added later when the project was in dire straits.

It looks utterly badass, but the SuperCobra and Apache do the job much better.
MadCat360
S2 licensed
Quote from FPVaaron :Here's another http://www.youtube.com/watch?v ... RrddU&feature=related

These cars were all straight from the factory

Except those drivers aren't incompetent.
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