It's what I use with a FOV 90 (approximatly)
Y + 0.500 m
This value would increase if I had to increase the FOV

I guess the Z could be adjust realisticaly + 0.050 max

The result are also differents from one car to another!

Here is what i get with the FZ50 and Y ~ + 0.450 m

Last edited by Maelstrom, Mon 9 Jul 2007, 12:05.

Quote from anttt69 :

If you voted no then you are Mr Bean or a Mr Bean wannabe. The only person I can think of who drives a car sitting on the roof.

Maybe just someone who don't want to be forced to use an unrealistic view or someone who just respect other people choices

This one

Quote from XCNuse :

So who's the fool that chose the helicopter view?

A GTA fan probably

Quote from deggis :

Partly true but what comes to nKp, being too hardcore is really smallest of the problems regarding lack of online activity I don't think the stuff I mentioned would cut down potential customer count (except those who are already playing the wrong game), it's just that LFS have had these things for years and people have used to it too much.


Good suggestion, just having two sliders for seat position would be a lot easier than making custom view... in custom view you can of course place the seat (meaning camera) anywhere you want but it's more complicated.

Huru: ^5000

It's not just a matter of seat position. Your screen isn't stuck in front of your eyes. Mine is 50 cm away and I expect to see things starting from that distance! Not from the driver's eyes

Quote from tristancliffe :

Good idea. Get rid of the idiots with their silly unhelmeted drivers! Although it does make it easier to spot the kiddies

I was talking about a real helmet

I m against forcing the view since it is something very personal and it don't really make someone better on the track!

Even if we consider that the view should be as realistic as possible it is all wrong since it is an unrealistic view (IMO)! And it give different result (more or less realistic) depending on the screen(s) you're using! A way to move the camera inside the cockpit is indispensable to tailor the result to our needs in term of realism. The way it 's right now it should have never been implemented.

what's next? a compulsory detector to see if we wear an helmet while we're driving?

Last edited by Maelstrom, Sun 8 Jul 2007, 18:06.

Quote from Gunn :

It's only forcing cockpit view on a server,"people" aren't being forced to do anything. If you don't like using cockpit view just join a server that has the option disabled. But you'll have to choose the server yourself, nobody can force you to join it.

If the result is that we can't find combo we like anymore should we be happy about it?

First time I see a patch topic transformed into a flamewar

Quote from Doorman :

Interesting poll, one of many on this subject over the years and if my memory serves me correctly the all got more or less the same result
Checkit Seems like the tiny(noisy) minority will be upset by this option.

This poll is irelevant! You can have your own custom view being an in car view!

I like the Vykos69's idea of moving the position of the virtual eyes only! It wouldn't satisfy everybody tho but it would give us more liberties while staying inside a realistic range of views!
Especially if we can move it backward/forward!

Last edited by Maelstrom, Sun 8 Jul 2007, 14:27.

Quote from danowat :

It may not be 100% realistic (what is), but it IS the most realistic view available in any racing sim.

I don't agree and there's no absolute truth to that question as long as we play with a single screen! I already said it in that topic but you don't see 2 time your wheel in real life and as geeman said you would see much more through your windscreen that you ever will with that view! IMO the view I m using is more realistic and it 's just a matter of feeling.

Quote from Vykos69 :

Guys, it's AN OPTION!!!

I fear that it may not if too many servers use it. The online experience would be terminated for me if that happen! I just hope scawen is gonna make the AI rocks in the next patch!

Last edited by Maelstrom, Sun 8 Jul 2007, 13:48.

Quote from Gabkicks :

yo u can make the steering wheel invisible ingame. thats what i do

I didn't know about that option and it may be worth a try. When I'm playing I try to make a view where i can see what i would see if i was sitting in a car and could see only through a rectangle with the size of my screen and at the exact same distance. I find it more immersive like this

Why force the cockpit view?
I can understand that some people may want to forbid views that give an unrealistic advantage but it's unfair for people using custom view!
I don't like the cockpit view cause I feel it's weird to see 2 time my wheel

I could try to get into the top 1000 :eclipseeh

Even if it 's totally out of range for me it will be funny to try

Quote from Aegilops :

Great suggestion, +1

Part of the fun of GPL was going to the GPL track database and adding on those amazing, high-quality tracks. I remember thrashing around the Isle of Man - and while I never fully mastered it in the same way as you had to with the tracks that came with GPL itself, it was a great experience, and best of all just a good cracking drive along interesting roads with real history, character and atmosphere.

Wouldn't it be even better if LFS could accommodate an arbitrary track length? I recall that they compressed many of the straights but left the cornering sections intact to fit into a hard limit of track length imposed by the GPL engine.

Oh hell, while we're dreaming...



Rakhsh

A big +1

Or maybe the infamous http://www.youtube.com/watch?v ... ;mode=related&search=
I'm just dreaming

Quote from Hankstar :

Keoinegesgsgegsgs, bah. This is hardcore. Click.



Did someone say 1160 hp per tonne? :eek:
Yes, they did. Oh baby. This could well be a Le Mans monster.

This thing would eat the FO8
It'd be cool to have a clone of that beast in S3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-8EFZ9mayI

Last edited by Maelstrom, Wed 4 Jul 2007, 23:41.

Quote from BlackSheep720 :

This is pitiful... (From an article in my newspaper today reviewing Forza Motorsport 2)



Gahhhh! I nearly choked on my ham sandwich when I read that! Why don't people get that arcade games aren't designed to be realistic? Also, it certainly sucks that LFS isn't getting as much press over here in the states; it certainly deserves to be on that list.

Your're sure you want LFS to be side by side with NFS?

RAC LX6 and the FO8

Quote from TiJay :

Old?? It's still in development Yes, the code was started before dual core but that doesn't mean it can't be added. Possibly?

Quote from Jakg :

This game is actually fairly new patch wise, but no multi-threading (yet, i hope) - more and more games are getting multi-threaded, but most new games aren't

When I said old i meant that it started a long time ago. I have that feeling (I maybe wrong) that multi threading have to be think from the beginning even if it doens't mean that improvements done later could be done in that way.

Would be nice if AI were calculated on other cores

About the CPU ! Does LSF use more than one core on a multi core CPU?
I would guess that it doesn't since the game is pretty old
Just wondering!

The 0.5 thing never appeared on the front page of the LFS web site! I highly doubt we will simply have a patch A again with a 0.6! That would be too much confusing on the web site! There 're plenty of ways to continu the series.

Quote from MAGGOT :

the learning is a poor idea; why make them start out like crap for no reason? Make the AI good to start out with so that we can have a good race out of the box.

Also, the 'I' part doesn't need to be learning; it should be interpreting the situation and acting accordingly.

I really do not understand the obsession with AI that 'learns.'

Probably because it is the most efficient way to go !
We may need a way to share already trained AIs with setups!

Quote from Shotglass :

theyre not necessarily the smartest dog race are they ?

Actually it is a bull terrier and they are pretty dumb :dogrun:

That's what happen when you go to see a bad acupuncturist

edit: someone was faster than me