Quote from The Moose :

I'd say that what looks like is going to be released as 1.03 is,in reality, a v0.9 imo.

I'm hoping that the missing .1 is in inconsequential bugs like stats, or or or with the interface, or or or custom skins. If there's 1/10th of a version worth of physics missing from this release then I will have lost all hope.

Half the fun of a track day is seeing the cool cars... first in the rearview mirror, and then in front.

Geely!? Interesting...

The next best hope is for NKPro to at least maintain a stable number of demo players. Get some converts that way. Then there are the fringe simmers who have "just discovered it" but don't know the back story.

IMO there isn't enough content to make it a compelling buy. At one point the "feel" of the game blew me away, but the sim-scape has moved forward and I don't feel that way about 1.02 anymore. I've gotten better at understanding vehicle dynamics, and 1.02 feels so massively flawed to drive, despite being somewhat more immersive. I hope 1.03 is the quantum leap.

Quote from wien :

It just comes across as rubbing it in at this point.

You could always just stay away from the NKPro threads until you see the one with "Released!" in the title.

New update from Jaap today. Sounds like it's gettng closer guys. Can't wait.

EDIT: oh c'mon Tezuka, at least they're communicating.

Oh, very nice! What are you driving? Is it a club event?

They should just turn Disneyland into a track...

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I also just found this thread through the other one...

Kekkart, thank you for sharing your thoughts with us on the FBM.

Quote from Shotglass :

has he never driven a manual before?

That thing just isn't geared for the Ring. Flappy paddles would solve that problem though.

I've always thought it was a pity that there are sooooooo many nicely modified cars in HK but with no place to drive them except illegally. And soooooo many cars are wearing nice rubber too. AD08s, D1 Direzzas, RE-01Rs... super-high-performance-street-tires are probably much cheaper there.

Once again... nice equipment with no legal place to use it. Nearest track is hours away in Zhuhai China right? Shame shame shame! That's probably why HKers flock to the track in droves once they're here in Canada!

Quote from jibber :

miata... race track... drifting

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The only drifting I do is in the snow.

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Wow, Zenvo doesn't look to bad. For a supercar out of nowhere it actually looks like it was styled by professionals.

Quote from GrIp DrIvEr :

... SSC Ultimate Aero TT.

Which can't be said for the SSC Ultimate Aero TT. Nor Mosler. Nor Saleen. Nor Panoz.

Isn't it the case that most people use the popular WR hotlap setups with a few tweaks? So we're really converging on spec racing all by ourselves.

Quote from spanks :

1. somewhat cool, you're reading way too much into my post...using it for what you want.

Somewhat cool, okay I'll take it. Yeah I am pretty much using your post to illustrate my point, thanks for being a good sport about it though.

Quote from PMD9409 :

Where are you reading this? Honestly, because it isn't on here...

Like this...

Spanks, I'm going to use you as an example. I mean no ill will, and you're entitled to your opinion. Flame me back as you see fit. We cool man? Alright, we cool:

Quote from spanks :

John Henry is pretty well off...and he wants it to happen. He only invested $690 million into the redsocks in 2002...

Reciting names. Hero worship? Not impressed he's rich, and I don't see the relevance.

Quote from spanks :

To all the angry people who can't afford it...bummer. Don't hate iracing because you don't have the extra money.

There we go... cheapness.

Quote from spanks :

If you hate the subscription deal, but like the service and the sim itself...then either don't race or just deal with it and subscribe...because its not changing, and no amount of bitching/slamming/defacing will.

So we should bend over, take it, and stop talking about it.

Quote from spanks :

iRacing is no different than an MMO. World of warcraft. $15 a month, now has 2 expansion packs. $40 per game or more + 150 a year with the reduced price for longer subscriptions. gee....$300 for the first year for a game...imagine that.

On the one hand it's no worse than an MMO. So by that logic it's just a game. On the other hand it's a lot cheaper than the real thing, and by that logic it's some sort of real life analog league thing that's very very serious with sporting codes and such. Oh, and another jab at cheapness.

So it's these sort of opinions that I have a problem with. Yup, more at RSC indeed.

Quote from PMD9409 :

Lots of different opinions in here, some reasonable and some questionable.

Questionable is what people say to justify the pricing/structure/content.

"I like iRacing because it's a wonderful piece of software and I reap a lot of enjoyment out of it" is absolutely reasonable. Heck that could be me in a month.

But when people start telling others that they're cheap, or poor, or not hardcore enough, or John Henry is rich and powerful, Dave Kaemmer has a long legacy of success, they spent $goggggilllions on it and therefore you should feel priviledged that it's such a good bargain, iRacing is some sort of new sports entity that is like real life except on the computer, it's cheaper than other MMOs because that's an apple-to-apples comparison even though I thought you people don't regard iRacing as a game, and finally it's a bargain to the real thing because it's almost a perfect substitute. Bullocks.

Quote from rjm1982 :

Also, people try harder I think in iRacing. It's an investment mentality... if you're putting something into the system, you want to get as much out as you can.

Also, while prices may rise/fall a little, the subscription model will never change. That comes from John Henry and Dave Kaemer themselves. Your subscription to the service is as much "dues" to the sanctioning body as it is payment for the game.

This is exactly what I'm talking about. Those first two sentences say it all. Why be so proud of the fact that you/they/people are falling right into the marketing trap, so proud of a system that guilts a user into trying harder to get value.

"Dues" to the sanctioning body? That's preposterous. Real life requires sanctioning bodies because there are legal, organizational, money matters to attend to. And why did you bring up "John Henry" and "Dave Kaemer"? Why recite their names? The pricing structure is the way it is because those two said so, and therefore need no justification? iRacing is just a game... a business and a piece of software. Honestly you (and many other defenders at RSC) are spouting iRacing gospel like a religious zealot, and it's very unattractive.

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Bush was awesome in that video!!! Dodge that first shoe like a boxer dodging a jab. Smooth, quick, and without panic. He's got a smirk on his face as he waits for the next one, as if he's taunting the guy.

Composed throughout the whole incident. Even chewed out the reporter afterwards, hahaha!

Didn't know Bush was a ninja last name.

Posting to show my support. These things happen, and a quality end product is more important.

If we want to be picky, one could argue that the XFG/XRG/XRT are too old to come equipped with ABS as standard equipment.

Quote from Scawen :

Changes in TEST PATCH Z3 :
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Implemented ABS brakes in XFG / XRG / RB4 / FXO / XRT / FZ5
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Anyone else bothered by this? One of the defining characteristics about a sim is that it can have locking brakes! Going to ABS feels like a backwards step towards console driving games, which don't wheel lock up. It might be slightly more realistic given that most cars have ABS, but, it certainly makes things easier. People need to learn how to modulate their brakes. It's bad enough as it is with the brake force adjustments.

I don't like it.

Quote from dawesdust_12 :

Except not really... I've had more good races in a few months of iRacing than I have in many years of LFS. iRacing has that fun factor, whereas LFS seems... almost over-engineered.

Never under estimate the power of marketing. LFS is too gamey in appearance, in audience, and in experience. I bet that accounts for 90% of iRacing's perceived superiority.

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Quote from Flame CZE :

I tried to compare real car to LFS one. Nice, almost the same.

Good job devs... VERY good job.

Build teh engineering sim and the racing will follow.

Quote from Bob Smith :

15 psi looks far more fun around the racetrack.

I have never seen a FWD anything drift as gracefully as that guy did...