Glad you're okay! Honestly, I'm too scared to put myself onto a bike... Love the concept... hate the potential for body damage!

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Quote from Scatter :

I just remembered... Is there any way to increase torque in a car? I think forced induction could increase torque but are there other ways? I began to fall in love with lightweight roadsters, especially the Honda S2000 but I heard that it's low amount of torque was a fairly big downside for it.

If you want to accelerate quickly from low RPM, then I suppose it could be a problem. I've driven the car before, and if you want to accelerate quickly than just g.d downshift into the power band. That's why they equipped it with the best feeling manual transmission ever created. IMO it's all blown out of proportion and just used as a memorable sound bite by internet bashers and magazine writers.

Nooooooooooooo... I was planning on finally going next year too.

It's all relative, right? I certainly wouldn't mind getting paid a few million to absolutely suck at F1 and have my name dragged through the mud... lol

Quote from Becky Rose :

Piquet was in the race. Therefore he crashed and caused the first safety car.

The commentators at SPEED actually chuckled at Piquet for being so glum during a short interview before the race. It must feel incredibly awful to be his shoes. Career-wise at least. Poor guy.

Quote from RossUK :

Seriously though, I would say that I am a fan of Hamiltons driving and don't really know him well enough to judge him based on his interviews, but some comments on this forum are rediculous. You want Massa to crash so that Hamilton can win?! Oh-kay...

Well Hamilton has been performing extremely well lately. Ferrari looked almost nervous. Did you see the guy in the pit (I'm sure he's a well known important 'guy'...) almost on the verge of tears when Massa crossed the line to take Pole?

Hamilton's the clear technical favourite, but we'll see. I'm a Kimi and Massa fan with the Lego set to prove it.

Hmm, no 900 degree support!? WTF. And I'll be buying it on the PS2 so no hope for updates and fixes.

I'll wait until it goes on sale I guess... maybe.... it's tempting.

If NKPro's Singapore F1 demo is anything to go by (laughter), it's going to be a very very boring race. All sorts of nasty 90 degree slow corners.

Quote from MAGGOT :

"Good sentence"? Best sentence. Mosport! In a sim! Proper! The whole not buying iracing thing is getting really difficult now...

If they do include Mosport with all the configurations, most importantly the Driver Development Track, then I will subscribe because I'll actually be able to use the software for what it is supposedly intended: driver training.

So if they include Mosport and the DDT, I'll be able to do two big big big things:
1) I can learn the track for the track days there.
2)*** Having learned the track, judge how realistic iRacing is.

***This is the one that really matters. I'll gladly pay for the chance the compare the sim to reality first hand. Pay for the chance to praise it, or rip it to utter shreds.

Quote from Hyperactive :

As for physics, I am still a bit undecided still with iracing. Just by looking at the skippie I have a feeling that there is still something wrong with the physics, i can't believe that the way you need to drive the skippie to go fast is any much more realistic than LFS', for example. Mainly it is about the GPL style steering into the corner to counter the effects of oversteer. The more oversteer the more you need to steer "inwards". So far it has totally killed the skippie for me and tbh. I'm a bit afraid that the prototype car and the lotus will be the same. The same steering style works to some degree with the solstice as well.

Personally I haven't read or seen a one single book or dvd about driving a car fast that would encourage you to steer more into the corner when the rear starts stepping out. I know that quick steering will make the car understeer as stabbing the brakes can do but in iracing you need very minimal steering into the corner and the car balances itself into small slide. What I'd expect is to see the car keep rotating more and more when you steer more - as with more steering the car's rotation speed would increase and you'd spin - not stabilize the car.

Has this issue been brought up and discussed over there in the iRacing forums? That would be quite a fundamental flaw if it is indeed a flaw.

Quote from aoun :

What do you suggest? Orange juice?

They're doing great things with corn these days...

Quote from DevilDare :

forget about Kimi, the new champion is here on teh podium, standing first

The problem with Kimi's Ferrari is all down to setup. Having set his... 9th(?) fastest lap, and once again doing it in the final laps, it's obvious what the problem is.

Kimi's Ferrari doesn't like fuel.

Now if Ferrari could figure out a way to run the car with no petrol in it, than there's still hope that Kimi can wrestle his way back up into a respectable position, and simultaneously solve the world's energy problems.

Well then, congrats to Vettel!

Poor Kimi... where art thou Kimi...?

Meh. It's so unfathomably expensive that I just don't care.

Heck, the $260 that I spent for my G25 was the largest single amount of money I've ever spent on gaming hardware ever.

$2000 buys a lot of real life track days. $8000 buys a lot of real life track days and a car to drive them with. Y'know a complete car, complete with steering wheel, pedals, shifter... engine, seats, roof, brakes. Lets not forget the patented Real-Life-Laws-of-Physics-Powered-Force-Feedback (tm by God himself). LOL.

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Quote from BastianB :

...pics with my phone.

Interior looks good!

I don't care about any motion blur if it finds it's way into the game as long as there's the option to leave it the eff off. TBH though, the blur really does look like motion blur since it seems to radiate from the centre.

I'm always surprised at how many people use left foot braking (by that I mean pressing both brake and gas at the same time through turns.) Whenever I spectate the faster drivers I always see them LFB.

I brake with my right.

Quote from mrodgers :

Think things through a bit before posting all the nonsense people. In 2006, we got a surprise of the BF1. Am I an F1 fan? Nope. I'm not an open wheeler fan at all and have very very few laps in OW in LFS. Does that mean I jumped on the forum and whined and cried over the BF1? Nope.

Same for the FMB. I couldn't care less about the car. Did I complain?

But, think for a minute at what the BF1, the FMB, and what the Scirocco has and will bring to the development of LFS. Each car that has come to LFS has allowed the Devs to fine detail some aspect of the physics. Whether it was tire physics, suspension physics, or the transmission model. With the opportunity for the Devs to develop a real mass produced car, the Scirocco, in LFS and see side by side how it compares to real life is a fantastic opportunity, just as the FBM was with furthering the development of the transmission models.

It doesn't matter if it's FWD, RWD, AWD, unidrive, pedal drive, or anydrive, it's a real car with real data and I'm sure the developers have some real time to spend with it with the development of LFS in their minds.

Couldn't agree more either.

But having a taste for, and preferring something RWD negates exactly none of that.

You know what I'd love to see?

1. Someone (with lots of experience and good communication skills) with a real life Scirocco run on an autocross with a full complement of telemetry.
2. Then that same someone runs the same autocross in the Scirocco in LFS.
3. Give us feedback on how the two compare subjectively.
4. We compare telemetry data to see how close LFS comes to the real thing objectively.

Yes. Awesome. Brilliant idea.

I remember someone doing this with a Golf and XFG years ago. Let's do it again!

Quote from crashgate3 :

you Already Have A Perfectly Animated Pair Of Hands And Feet Operating Controls In Front Of You. Turn The Driver And Wheel Off.

+1

Quote from ATHome :

No, it looks like bits an pieces from other cars...

Not to mention the interior is the EOS.

That's epic failure in my book.

It couldn't have been something more interesting and RWD huh?

Another quick question: if you guys are racing an add-on track these few weeks, and I decide to sign up now, will I not be able to find a race on the included ones?

1. Mosport International, 100km
2. Dunnville Autodrome, 130km
3. Toronto Motorsports Park, 133km
4. Shannonville Motorsports Park , 200km (my avatar)
... slightly farther ...
5. Calabogie Motorsports Park, 468km
... a lot farther ....
6. Circuit Mt. Tremblant, 650km

4 tracks within 2 hours drive. Damn life is good

Quote from george_tsiros :

are you really really sure about this?

because when i brake and, during that, i downshift, i do not use my heel at all. why would it be named 'heel/toe' if you can do it without using the heel and the toe?

Yup. As Tristan explained, it's just a name. I myself only use the side of my foot in real life, but I do use my heel in LFS. I actually had to modifiy the pedal spacing on the G25 (like many people have) in order to be able to do H/T. It's also a bit harder in the sim because you can't feel it .

Quote from unseen :

...to me it seems like it should be used on all downshifts, to ease excessive wear, etc on the transmission

"Heel-toe" should really be taken out of the racing context and understood for what it really is.

H/T is "downshifting while braking."

H/T allows you to downshift while braking, under the assumption that rev matching is mandatory with a traditional gearbox. By rev-matching you get the benefits of... [see posts above] and it's the [see posts above] that is relevant to racing technique or whatever. H/T, the technique on it's own, is just downshifting while braking.

Q: When should I heel toe?
A: Whenever you need to downshift while braking.

Last edited by Mattesa, Wed, 6 Aug 2008 18:26.