Quote from 5haz :

If Button wins the championship he won't have won it because he deserved it more than anyone else, but because everyone else deserved it less then him, if that makes sense.

What I mean is, he shouldn't be able to get away with such poor showings, but his main rivals have been so crap at putting a sustained challnge together that they deserve it less than him.

At least it makes the rest of the season easier to watch. I'm enjoying the battle for the scraps.

Quote from Gabkicks :

its just that the animation doesnt turn as much. Very few games have animated 900 degree steering. NFS Shift has even less steering. Forza 3 has very little as well as grid and dirt.

LFS has animated 720 degree steering.

Considering the excruciating lengths they're going for other graphical details, surely animated steering isn't too much to ask.

Quote from spyshagg :

the physics are allright

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kh2_kF_2l2U

At 2:03 the G25 turns more than the virtual wheel. Probably just a settings issue, and if not they better fix it.

I also think the championship is decided.

Was hoping for Barichello to make some real headway into Button's lead.

Let's face it, the 2007 and 2008 championship battles were anomalies. We can't expect this season to come down to the wire. I'll be happy to be proven wrong though.

If it's something that can be resolved with reasonable effort, then it's absolutely worth it to try. The most recent release is absolutely fantastic to drive.

Then I won't mention how I bought the PS2 just for GT3 (worthwhile to note LFS didn't exist in any reasonable form back then IIRC)... We all know what GT4 is like. Thank goodness for Enthusia, which genuinely made it worthwhile.

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Would it be stupid to buy the PS3 just for GT5?

Knowing full well that it probably won't hold my interest from a SIM perspective and will end up just sitting around unplayed.

I'll wait for the physics bug youtube videos to talk my out of it but damn it just LOOKS so good!

I can't wait to drive the Scirrocco / FBM / Rockingham combos.

Because for the first time ever we can be on track with all real life content.

Quote from anttt69 :

The cheapest you could do it would be via the Radical trial i.e a free month with the Radical included + $25 for Mosport. If you have already used that offer then there is month for $5 offer via inracing.com.

Thanks for the tip about the other offer. I've done the radical trial already.

Quote from anttt69 :

Greg Hill, iRacing developer:


Great news for the Canucks who have eagerly awaiting this new track.

If I can do any mosport trackdays next year, I'll consider giving them a month sub just to see first hand their real-lifeness... On the otherhand... Do I really want to pay $50 to satisfy my curiosity? Maybe not.

Quote from trebor901 :

Also game companies are going for graphics over gameplay which is stupid

The problem is that you can't turn "gameplay" on and off like a faucet just by plowing more resources into it. Better gameplay requires creativity, innovation and as we start to plateau, it's going to need a paradigm shift of sorts.

How's Spore doing?

Solid grid of Abarth action at Prato right now. Probably my first real go at an online race in NKP. Very good stuff, although the blue boxes are a bit distracting.

I'm enjoying the Abarth more and more despite not being too appreciative of WWD cars in general.

Y'know NKP feels somewhat reminiscent of iRacing in terms of how the tires feel around the limit as they bite. But in terms of overall dynamics, variability, and oversteerability its a bit more LFS. Best of both worlds.

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Quote from NotAnIllusion :

Where at?

Here,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpuz0w7jhtc

and here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ELflPx1iag

Just noticed NKP has got the tread patterns right.

Quote from dawesdust_12 :

Downforce is fantastic

Downforce ruins everything.

So have we all tried the F1600 at Aosta yet?

OMG it's a blast! With all the swooping medium speed momentum corners, camber changes, and bumpiness the car wants to be sideways everywhere. Everywhere. Off-throttle cornering = death! Keep your foot in it to keep it balanced. Go for some nice drifts through the double apexes.

Someone at RSC posted some vids of real FF's. It feels just like how that looks.

Quote from PMD9409 :

You act like I love FF "drifting".

I hate it actually, I was just pointing out that it is not all handbrake like some others said.

Sorry, I wasn't trying to demean 'you' at all, but you had a good line there I wanted to quote.

Quote from PMD9409 :

...then it's all just inertia from there.

Look... saying that an FF car is drifting is like tossing a stone and saying it's flying.

Yeah the stone is moving through the air until it loses it's momentum and hits the ground. Yeah the FF car is oversteering until it loses it's momentum and wiggles back into a straight line again. All the energy of the slide is done at the beginning and you're really just riding it out because touching the gas means understeer and recovery. With a RWD you're actively maintaining the drift from beginning, middle, to the end. You can circle indefinitely with a RWD. Would an FF even make it past 90 degrees?

Notice in the videos that they cut to the next camera at corner exit? That's because it's effing ugly that the car didn't have enough momentum to hit the outside curb.

Wow FI is flyyyyyyying

So the hotlap tournament continues then? I'm not planning to compete but wanted play along on the sidelines to benchmark my times, ie. Just how much slower am I....?

Well, I got a license.

Wishfully hoping a solid base of players will build for some pickup racing in the EST timezone, but at least I've done my part.

Quote from Mattesa :

I wish I was. From a clean install the first time through works as expected. But once I exit, all subsequent attempts to get on track, whether it be offline test drive or join a host online, I will get a message to save a replay and
the game doesn't launch.

At this point in the beta I don't care as long as I can stil drive and connect to everything without the front end.

Okay, I'm an idiot. This was due completely to my idiotness. I pinned NKP_PRO_NT... etc to my start menu instead of pinning the shortcut.

LMAO!

Off to RSC to post the same.

Quote from SpikeyMarcoD :

Weird, you seem to be the only one...You must be doing something very different then expected?

I wish I was. From a clean install the first time through works as expected. But once I exit, all subsequent attempts to get on track, whether it be offline test drive or join a host online, I will get a message to save a replay and
the game doesn't launch.

At this point in the beta I don't care as long as I can stil drive and connect to everything without the front end.

This most recent update is fantastic. The FF1600 drives almost conpletely differently. A lot more alive than ever, and the feeling of it scrabbling for grip as you push it neutral-steer sliding through a corner is just soooooo much fun.

The sounds are more pleasing now too.

So I'm very close to purchase, but I can't get nks.exe to launch through the gui. So can get online through clicking nks.exe alone? I reported my bug already, but wondering if anyone here knows. I'm um_jammer over at RSC btw.

Cheers.

Will go download now. I hope it works since I do want to buy it...

BTW, should the title of this thread read v1.1 something?

Ohh pit race!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Make the "other" sims eat crow!

Physics physics physic physics physics physics!!!!!