yes/88/microspecv

88/microspecv/Sean Lee/Singapore/Pixle Air Attack Racing

27/12/21

To add on to list of problems:
Too much aero wash/dirty air, needs to be toned down to suit the era spec of downforce levels. Feels worse than BF1 when the car itself is much simpler than it.

All this means car is a) undrivable in close proximity, b) inconsistent, c) too rear limited on grip purely on weight-derivative issue

Quote from MicroSpecV :

26/12/21

Awesome looking car, nice neutral/unloaded handling and intuitive steering. That's the good side, but I'm only around the mod forums to give critical feedback so here it is :

CAr and/or downforce value balance is messed up (just like majority of mods available).
Wing application should be adjusted so that car can be set up just like any other winged vehicle, without first understanding that the Front wing value is exponentially higher than the rear wing. At WE2 the wings are 8-20 which is pretty silly once you look at the set up.

(Edit : realised need tl;dr version - wing value should be consistent with default LFS value setting. i.e if 8-20 right now is what's right for the track, then the setup parameters should be adjusted so that it reflects something less drastic, like 11-15 or such.)

Brakes lock up far too easily, trail braking is near impossible. Front should come unweighted more gradually, as the car doesn't modulate brakes while braking straight let alone on cadence.

Peak revs/vmax/redline is inconsistent with the speedo. Might need to address that. And the engine clips on high revs, but overall sounds brilliant.

27/12/21

Great start, good engine sound and great rims and body. Looks like the earlier Ford Falcon gen 1 (we now have 2 Holdens, a Skyline and a Ford V8sc squad on the mod forum )

Things to improve on is the speed. This is way too fast, but I cannot figure out if it's the body weight and mass, or the engine that's overpowered. This ran around my scaled Gold Coast track in 1:09 while all the other V8/ATCC cars ran 1:12s/1:13s. It just goes up the gears and accelerates like no tomorrow, which his unrealistic.

Brakes are also too strong from baseline, at least for this car. V8SC have bad brakes, and at 1800 they feel strong already. Might need to change that.

Handling wise is generally ok, perhaps a tad numb on corner entry. Main issue is that ot does suffer from rear squat and tripod disease on acceleration, which makes the inside wheel spin funny. niko's car on the other hand tripods on braking and corner turn in. So yep, you'll need to get around that too.

Otherwise good job!

26/12/21

Overall excellent mod. Not sure why the rating is lower then I expected, perhaps because the brakes are weaker then most are accustomed to (but realistic). If I were to nitpick, the engine sounds a tad dull and there is perhaps a bit too much "rear steer" on loaded mid corner entry. Car feels like its going to loop. Had to put +0.3 to +0.4 rear toe in to compensate. Initial turn in is also perhaps a bit too grippy... but all tthese might just be down to tires.

26/12/21

Car's sounding awesome and the mesh poly bodykit is amazing to stare at

Front end washes out too easily. Needs tiny more low speed mechanical grip that tapers off relative to increasing speed. Otherwise it's fine, good mod!

26/12/21

Awesome looking car, nice neutral/unloaded handling and intuitive steering. That's the good side, but I'm only around the mod forums to give critical feedback so here it is :

CAr and/or downforce value balance is messed up (just like majority of mods available).
Wing application should be adjusted so that car can be set up just like any other winged vehicle, without first understanding that the Front wing value is exponentially higher than the rear wing. At WE2 the wings are 8-20 which is pretty silly once you look at the set up.

(Edit : realised need tl;dr version - wing value should be consistent with default LFS value setting. i.e if 8-20 right now is what's right for the track, then the setup parameters should be adjusted so that it reflects something less drastic, like 11-15 or such.)

Brakes lock up far too easily, trail braking is near impossible. Front should come unweighted more gradually, as the car doesn't modulate brakes while braking straight let alone on cadence.

Peak revs/vmax/redline is inconsistent with the speedo. Might need to address that. And the engine clips on high revs, but overall sounds brilliant.

26/12/2021
Rear end feels disconnected to front - either front has too much grip or the rear is too light. Car has low mechanical grip and feels just like LX6 but with 50% higher downforce on initial turn in - then everything just falls off.

Engine sounds good though.

Quote from Dmitry[RUS :

;1979057"]For such cool projects, you need to add separate objects to the editor. Tribunes, trees, fences, spectators, marshals, various pillars, etc. You can use objects with different surfaces, grass, soil)
It may be possible to add line library objects. Source from various Blackwood tracks. There is no need to overload textures and objects inside the game.
Maybe it's not that hard ..

Wat

Quote from NENE87 :

I have exactly the same question How you do this? DIstance etc... I need to release a track from Chimay

Sometimes you can overlay on the real track to check your progress... but with LFS physics and different ground speed/tire grip some corners won't align 100% perfect... for example, this is the best I've got at the moment (the red line is my track on the Wide Grid X config). *And bearing in mind I did not use this map overlay method until I had fully completed the track at 90%. I mainly relied on my eyes and onboard footage.

Quote from NENE87 :

I have exactly the same question How you do this? DIstance etc... I need to release a track from Chimay

I'd say man hours.... and patience, this (till today) took about 16 hours and I had an 8 hour session with only a dinner break in between... ended at 3am today

Quote from TFalke55 :

May I ask how you approached the layout? Did you use maps, airborne or satellite photos/orthophotos or other geodata? If so what did you use?

Tons of onboards, helicam shots of the landmarks and scenery (I call them "d.o.f objects" in relation to the draw distance), and probably combined 2 hours worth of lapping and lapping to compromise between the car handling to the track.

I've just replaced the embed video with a new one of a quali sim; changed a few corner geometrics and the lap feels even closer to irl now

After 12 hours total of work... Comparison video has been uploaded above

Still WIP, plenty to change on

Last edited by MicroSpecV, Fri 24 Dec 2021, 07:49.

Quote from By Hizli :

hello, the new version is very good, but the free servers should be shut down, it's unfair for those who pay.

To rephrase your suggestion in laymans terms,

"Hello, the new vehicle mod patch is excellent, but the free server option should be removed because not enough chads are visiting my own server and I feel robbed"

You do know that the free servers die as soon as there's no one there, which means it's only really good as a temporary service, rather than permanent subscription, right? Don't take things away from people who can't afford to chuck cash at a server host just to open a quick 5lap race with their friends overseas. There is no one-size-fits all solution here.

V8 Supercar sound here : (unofficial, only test)

Hi, pretty game-disrupting bug report. Posted in wrong sub-forum, but here it is anyway.

https://www.lfs.net/forum/thread/96347-Bug-w--Vehicle-Mod-%2B-Server-%2B-SS

**NOTICE** TRACK IS STILL WORK IN PROGRESS UNTIL STATED OTHERWISE

Jolly Scavier has blessed us with the release of 0.7 patch for modded cars! Loving some V8 Supercars action myself, I took my mate's classy Holden car mod, and sat down for 6 hours to chug out this piece of goodness - the Wondervalley Raceway! Featuring over 7 actual V8SC tracks and their corners, try to spot them without looking in the video description!

Best run with Niko's (nikopdr) V8 Supercar, the TBO class and FBM or FOX go pretty well here!


Have a wonderful 2021 and enjoy a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!


Recommended vehicles
MOD S3 ONLY https://www.lfs.net/files/vehmods/C64CBE Holden V8 Commodore 2008
TBO
FBM





⸗ The reward is in the passion

Check out my TC Layoutting series!
http://forum.city-driving.co.uk/forumdisplay.php?fid=13
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONFy_8kqPj4
Join Apex Online Racing today!
https://apexonlineracing.com/community/

AA™| AOR Nova

Last edited by MicroSpecV, Sat 18 Dec 2021, 20:14.

Faulting application name: LFS.exe, version: 0.0.0.0, time stamp: 0x61bafeec
Faulting module name: LFS.exe, version: 0.0.0.0, time stamp: 0x61bafeec
Exception code: 0xc0000005
Fault offset: 0x00077184
Faulting process id: 0x6cdc
Faulting application start time: 0x01d7f296ae772448

niko best modder

MOD #2 2011 V8 Supercars Holden Commodore by nikopdr (Engine note re-adjusted by myself)


Comparison:

*note*
Unable to fully recreate "mono" sounding cockpit audio due to clipping

Last edited by MicroSpecV, Fri 17 Dec 2021, 07:40.

MOD #1 Red Bull RB6 / F1 2010 by Raigs (Engine note re-adjusted by myself)


Comparison :

Hi Scavier, quick bug report. When saving SS when vehicle mod is downloading in-game in the background, LFS crashes completely and reverts to previous known setting/log in (i.e any change to driver tag, fuel, last joined server is wiped and reverts to previous)

No warning prior to crash and no freeze. Game crashes to desktop similar to the Shift+U editor glitch bug.

Yes/88/microspecv

The YES Ring combines everything you'd want from a fast street circuit concept - flowing, cambered turns, long drafting sections, tight, twisty complexes and perfect esses and switchbacks. A drivers circuit, the YES Ring was proudly crafted by Trespasser (with hastily placed armcos), but the pure circuit orientation was something worth developing on; and here we are!

Best run using the GTi class, the TBOs and LX classes get their thrill as well, or go beserk with the FBM or FOX!



Have a wonderful 2021 and enjoy a very happy new year!


Recommended vehicles
GTi
TBO
FBM





⸗ The reward is in the passion

Check out my TC Layoutting series!
http://forum.city-driving.co.uk/forumdisplay.php?fid=13
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONFy_8kqPj4
Join Apex Online Racing today!
https://apexonlineracing.com/community/

AA™| AOR Nova

Last edited by MicroSpecV, Mon 6 Dec 2021, 16:30.