Quote from RealistAdam :

I don't know if it's related to the topic, but I will respond to this issue.

I think everyone is having this problem. But sometimes I don't want to bother reporting it. I experienced this problem 18 days ago. I saw this while watching my videos.

See 00:45 to 00:52. When I crash, someone comes out of the pits. At that moment my game drops. You can notice this in the video.

https://youtu.be/uS3hRhf6hn4

Think that's just rendering lag from mod menu loading... I'm referring to ghost cars (dots on map) where the user and his mod fails to load completely and other drivers can't see him on their screen. Is this issue still persistent in this version of LFS - and is physical collision still enabled for the ghost vehicle?

Sorry to bump thread - any one has experienced mod desync in current or latest ver of LFS? Thanks.

Quote from ford taunus 2.3t :

I just saw the following error in the AIRIO console

24.09.09 21:18:38 #1 AIRIO ERROR : Ya se ha agregado el elemento. Clave en el diccionario: 'China' Clave agregada: 'China'
of type System.ArgumentException
en System.Collections.Hashtable.Insert(Object key, Object nvalue, Boolean add)
en System.Collections.Hashtable.Add(Object key, Object value)
en LiveForSpeed.InSim.Airio.Airio.GetCountryCode(String country) en d:\Development Files\LFS_Airio\General.cs:línea 419
en LiveForSpeed.InSim.Airio.Airio.Command3(String part1, String part2, String part3) en d:\Development Files\LFS_Airio\Command3.cs:línea 761
en LiveForSpeed.InSim.Airio.Airio.ProcPreMsg(String comm, Boolean flood) en d:\Development Files\LFS_Airio\Command.cs:línea 79
en LiveForSpeed.InSim.Airio.Airio.Message_Handler(Connection sender, Message m) en d:\Development Files\LFS_Airio\Actions.cs:línea 54

Thanks, noted. We are looking into the corrupt Airio instances. Will get back to you if theres a fix

Quote from Bass-Driver :

What if the person is blackmailing the LFS devs to achieve something.
Just wait until Scawen replies.

Hmm good point, been very quiet on the statement side of things

WKD maybe? Someone has to speak up about this soon, backstab or not. There has to be some motive behind this, unless its some solo crackhead or degenerate who enjoys saddness.

Lack of licence purchase? Poor server quality? Lack of updates? An ill-fated wish to empty LFS from its users from past run-ins with admins mayhe? There has to be SOME grevience that causes this. DDoS is not fully automated like something a bot could do, so surely it stemmed from something.

Then again.... anything is possible

Quote from RealistAdam :

Don't misunderstand my opinion, but there has been no attack since the [TC] CityDriving server was closed. Apparently it could be the work of someone banned from the server.

Incorrect. Random servers still get ddosed. RTFR retro cup is delayed because of it right now...
Sometimes 1 server, sometimes half the server list gets wiped out.

Quote from johneysvk :

Sorry Sean, that just sounds ridiculous and discussing it in public here doesn't really help the odds of succesful bait & switch

Fair, removed.

Quote from RealistAdam :

I don't have any proof, but I think I know who did it. There are too many...

Realistically speaking, the only way to stop the attacks (if we infer that it's not going away soon) is to make the TR playerbase (nice, regular guys like you) to force the ddoser to show his hand. How we achieve that I won't suggest, as I am against that, but I don't see any other way out of this, especially since there's not really been a clear motive - it's not purely targeting one server like e.g TC.

So we're all fighting this blind. So any amount of leads would help, so at least if someone were to attempt to curb the attacks, they'd have some sort of reference point with the usernames. That's the purpose really.

Last edited by MicroSpecV, Sat 7 Sep 2024, 17:14.

(Ignore thread unless relevant to you.) Related to host downtime due to DDoS

Dear server owners, if you have any evidence or suspicious activity regarding users that may have inflicted DDoS upon server entry by server hopping/address grab, or weird behavior in general, post your observations here.

Airio server console admins if you face any errors related to server stop-start or this DDoS routine please feel free to raise any issues here.

Last edited by MicroSpecV, Sat 14 Sep 2024, 20:00.

Thinking of applying to join the AirAttack Racing Team / AirSupport Racing? Check out our website forum
www.airattackteam.com for requirements!

We are a primarily demo license-centric team based in Live for Speed (LFS), with multiple active host servers and a strong member base. With a long history of server hosting, event participation and team affiliation, we remain as one of LFS's longstanding racing teams.

We can trace our roots back before the dawn of the new millennium. In 1999, an FPS style aviation console game called "AirAttack" debuted, featuring all types of aerial combat. Gathering a unique, but small community of passionate gamers and auto enthusiasts alike, these same bunch of people 5 years later migrated to, and began participating in online racing on Live For Speed around 2005. Thereafter, in August that same year, AirAttack Racing was founded.

[Some founding AA members: Punchy, Sooty, Mysteron, GroundHog, Maccwed, Walrus, Truckle, Pim, Lucage, Luke, Zoom, Anti, Aacws, and many more]

The exact period we started hosting our own LFS servers is vague, but archived forum posts on previous domain, airattack.co.uk, date our hosting debut in October of 2005 with two servers: Demo and S2. Ever since then, our focus shifted entirely to LFS, as more players joined the forums to discuss LFS events, sim-racing, server moderation tools and all things automotive-based.

Our well-known benchmark statistics tracker, "Airio" did not come to public fruition until 2009 when AA member EQ Worry developed the software on AirAttack servers and eventually released it for public use, modification and future growth, of which currently forms the Airio as we know today.

A lull period in 2013 saw much of AirAttack's founding members fall inactive, and shortly after did our website and forums, waving farewell to the airattack.co.uk domain name. Briefly, Genuine Racing and Ready2Roll team took us under their wing and allowed us a sub-forum on their website, which aided us in continuing our well-established server operations with 6 demo-only servers in total: 2x GTI, 2x FBM, Rallycross and one events server.

Towards the end of 2013 "airattackteam.com" was attained, and in 2014, then-active members established a new team website and refurbished the team and its branding. During this time, team spirit was prominent both in game and in the real world, as new members took over bill paying, general management and maintenance of AirAttack and its logistics. A full overhaul of the team roster and leadership brought back life into the team once again.

In June 2018, in a bid to inspire more young racers and gamers into LFS and sim-racing, team leaders Vim and Nova (Sean) founded AirSupport as a Junior team for AirAttack. AirSupport's primary goal is to teach and guide members about the moderation aspect of servers such as good judgement, handling conflict on track, teamwork and self improvement, while also supporting each individual in their progress up the ladder in sim-racing.

AirSupport also provided a tiered system which further incentivized hard work and dedication, where previously most only relied on Airio ranking as a gauge of seniority. Now, not only does AirSupport provide a cohesive environment for growth and development,  but the scheme has proved greatly beneficial in shaping the next generation of racers in both LFS and other platforms, while giving crucial managerial skills to all.

During the pandemic in 2020, AirAttack continued to evolve its server offerings with the revival of our S2 server and later introducing an S3 modded cars-based server. As a team, we continue to proactively develop our operations and provide our members with the options to excel where they'd like to. We now operate demo servers for Rallycross, GTi, FBM and events as we always have, but now also support thrill-seeking licensed racers with our S2 Multiclass and S3 Mods servers.

On 19 October 2025, AirAttack reached 20 years of operations within Live for Speed. With the coordination from organisers Sean and Firestarter, hosted a special event, namely "Celebrating 20 Years of AirAttack", with races utilising GTi and FBM around Blackwood, livestreamed by Simbroadcasts -

... and featuring rare cameo appearance by our senior member, JoRuss.

Today, AirAttack as a 16-bit aviation game is long gone, but the heritage remains on Live for Speed thanks to continued support by current members and supporters. Without it's you, AirAttack would not be where it is today. We've only just begun.

Visit us at www.airattackteam.com

Team Management - Point of contacts (updated 19 Nov 2025)
Overall Team Lead - Rane
AirSupport Lead & Team Advisor - Nova (Sean)
AirSupport Assisting Lead - Pukyy
Head Moderator & Technical Lead - Firestarter
Assisting Technical Lead - Ivanov
Web & HR Matters - Seven
Finance/Treasurer - DeltaS4
Senior Advisor - JoRuss
Emeritus Team Lead - Vim Fuego
Emeritus AirSupport Assisting Lead - Berdy
Emeritus Technical Lead - EQ Worry
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Last edited by MicroSpecV, Tue 18 Nov 2025, 23:03.

Quote from shayradfAR :

no dude i just installed a FRESH live for speed

Are you using demo version of LFS, downloaded from official site www.lfs.net here? Have you installed any VOD car bodykit?

I think LFS isn't supported on Linux officially? Someone please correct me if I'm mistaken.

Probably how your ISP routes to the LFS servers. Only recently myself (Singapore) got a better ping of 190-250ms. For 2 years it hovered at 360ms until apparently something changed with my ISP. Talked around with others and all agree its ISP related and not my internet or my cables.

You can try clicking on namelist the icon "UDP" to change to TCP and see if it helps. Different way of receiving packets while in server. May reduce your timeouts. You can also try changing ISP. May help too.

Quote from bayanofmansorofisky :

i find it really annoying and the game becoming really unplayable because of the constant errors and connections error that recently seem to happen more often than before.
As a resident of syria i don't know what's the nearest server i should be connected to and downloading mods and online multiplayer from.
It seems to not be suitable as of now, the connection keeps getting timeouts, connection reset , didn't receive okand mods fail to download and they take really long time trying to download.
Regional mod download ia broken since it was a thing. It somehow routes me to japan and that's even worse.

I can't seem to find anything i can do
And pretty sure its lfs servers that are either very far or junk.
and nope, my internet is fine.

what can i do.

Hey! It's due to the mod vehicle loading into the server, live. Most mods are high poly count and the more complex the model the higher processing it needs. Especially with more detailed track world like Rockingham or Westhill, plus 40 other vehicles, volia you get lag.

Having a better CPU with greater processing power and a more competant GPU will minimise this lag. However I already have the average setup of an i7 core and 1050Ti and still have lag on car spawns, so that's a normal thing now.

Similar lag occurs if there is a pile up comprising of many mod cars. As the softbody damage occurs it the lag also spikes.

Your cpu and ram seem a little clapped to run LFS at any decent graphic setting. Try custom building a budget rig. With new Windows 11 coming a lot of chipsets are going unsupported soon, so you might be able to grab something. I've been running an ancient i7 2600K forever since I got the PC used in 2018. From there I just bought a bronze fan, Nvidia 1080ti and some clearance stock ram, totalling 12gb now. Runs LFS at decent graphics and most FPS shooters with ample headroom. Build's only at like 315USD total, with the initial pc and mb used...

Quote from HKS Custom Tuning :

:schwitz:hello people,I have too low fps I wish someone can help me fix it

I have:
Intel Celeron N4020 @1.10GHz
4GB DDR3 2400 MHz
500GB HDD
Integrated Intel Graphics card on cpu with 512mb VRam

I know my specs are below todays standards but Im sure someone can help me,I wish that the developers see my post I just want to get LFS above 40 FPS now because I only get around 40 and 45 fps all the time and when Im racing in big races like in AA games sometimes it stutters so badly

Please help me I just want to be able to run Live For Speed at 60FPS on my computer I really love live for speed so much and its my favorite game,I have been playing it non stop for a few months now and everyday I play it I love it so much.

Thanks in advance guys!

Quote from Scawen :

I think your question is about the quality of the internet and its infrastructure. There's nothing I can tell you about the connections and hops between Singapore and the Netherlands, because I don't know anything about that (or the connections between any other locations).

Alright thanks

Thanks for the insight, makes sense. Then I'd have no issue with that, but pity that in rectifying one source they skip over it and find another....

Anyway, how about my other question/inquiry about my latency/ping? The issue I hope there's an answer to

Quote from Scawen :

One of the updates to make the servers more robust was to close open ports. One of those open ports on each server was the one listening for ping requests. As such it was a target for attacks, so the servers are now more resilient without leaving that port open.

Hi, don't mind me asking, but why was the ping column removed? I found (or used to) it useful to check my ping before entering an event server - if it was too high due to some ISP issue I wouldn't bother to join. And if it was reasonable I would get in if I could. Now I have to join the server to find out; and if the server is full, I can't even do that.

Just a minor feedback, if it's not possible anymore to reintroduce it, perhaps a general ping counter for the 4 server locations for us to keep track of our latency.

.... also, separate inquiry, perhaps more pressing right now for me - how and why has my ping increased over the years from 210ms to now, 340ms? Pre-covid, I was able to get a fair ping considering my location (Singapore), but since 2021, and most regrettably 2022 where I noticed the worst degradation, it's now almost un-raceable at 340ms.

For reference, in 2022, ping went from 260-280, straight up to 330ms, and has basically... been that way till now on NL servers, which is the most-used by leagues.

I believe I've asked this issue a year or two ago, and it's been brushed aside as ISP issue, but I've since switched ISP, upped my speed to 2GBPS, and haven't kinked or done silly stuff to my cable. Fellow Singaporean guys I've met and raced with have raised similar issues as well, going from 210-250ms to now 340-360ms. Is there any fix from the provider/server side or is this purely how it's going to be across the pond? Appreciate any insights

Quote from Scawen :

This update simply adds favourites to the List of Hosts screen, which is helpful as there is no longer a ping column. You can sort by that column and also the two-letter country code column.

I think at the end of the day, we must always consider and be reminded that LFS was never meant to be an open source/moddable/editable game for the public to contribute to.

And I'm sure the devs wish to keep it that way, not just for the personal accomplishments of all 3 guys but also to not undermine the efforts and tinfoilery needed way back during LFS incarnation.

Also if we have guys that can produce track environments at better quality and rate than Eric, I don't think that'll look too good on the brand values and operational concepts.

So yeah. We can propose and ideate all we want for a user-accesible track editor but right now is probably not the right time to implement such. Maybe when our devs are aged 80....

Last edited by MicroSpecV, Sun 16 Jun 2024, 21:48.

2024 will be an exciting year for layouts! Stay tuned for Mega Monaco - the remaster of Mini Monaco, a newer Glendale, and more!

Nice work! What software? Blender? 3dsmax? Google? Roblox? (last is joke)

Looks mint. Nice stuff

Quote from Silverracer :

Just to shake things up, and to introduce some more excitement and innovation for LFS, how about considering a limited release of the track editor that Eric currently uses? SCAVIER could invite select community members, especially those with demonstrated skills in car modeling and layout creation, to participate first. This would allow them to gauge how well it works and then decide how to proceed with the integration (if at all).

The development of environments and tracks could be shared publicly, fostering a collaborative and transparent process. While immediate integration into LFS wouldn't be necessary, this approach would keep the community engaged and inspired.

To ensure Scawen can continue focusing on his current development tasks, perhaps Eric could take the lead in assisting users with the current version of the track editor. That would ensure that Scawen can focus on his current development without having to focus on a mild release of an updated layout editor/track editor.

At this stage, I believe their priority is in releasing the updated (development) version with the new tyre physics (imagine the time Scawen can save by avoiding maintaining two separate versions of LFS?).

If the timeline for the above step is uncertain, SCAVIER might consider temporarily pausing other developments to concentrate on developing a public version of the environment/track editor for release in a grand-scale. This focused effort could bring significant long-term benefits to LFS in my opinion.

Yes! Probably more feasible as it'll funnel the content naturally to be closer to stuff that may actually get approved and upped. Instead of influx of random environments and eventually some buggy stuff.

The radio silence to the track editor/layout editor suggestions is unreal :lol:

Pretty straightforward request -
Hopefully it's feasible, but we hope to see the following 3 things included in editor:
1) Catchfencing (length, height adjustable) - can be unisoned wall object with simple expandable fencing texture above
- self explanatory for layouts... would help greatly keeping cars in the couse


2) Kerb accessories (length adjustable) - inclusive of flat ground kerb and yellow sausage kerb
- like the ones teased in the NY 2023 poster https://www.lfs.net/forum/post/2028516#post2028516 or the ones mentioned here https://www.lfs.net/forum/post/2027693#post2027693, and again, self explanatory for layout use, as now we're making do with glitchy ramps


3) Single-object chalk line - currently the chalk line object is a 2m strip, perhaps layout editor could incorporate a point-to-point system where you can preset nodes and then join the lines together to make one continuous object - would save a ton of object count. However this may not be possible... so maybe just the first two important suggestions..?

Quote from Bokujishin :

snip.

That's some really good info, sheds more light on what will be affected due to changes.

We could probably do away with more precise placement thru the 2 axis (for now), but we do need more crucial objects like: catchfencing, kerb objects (Scawen where's the New year 2023 teaser kerbs....), and sausage kerbs...

These 3 are really needed for any layout wanting to level up and out of the basics, and from a league standpoint also it's a good thing if cars don't fly off track due to lack of fencing. Currently we make do by substituting fencing with "wall" object shaped like billboards but it's hardly a nice sight...