Many thanks to Kilo for the league-specific modifications to this car! It will be used in Season 5 of LRL.

Layout Racing League returns for its 5th season this year in 2025 - Season opener on 25 January 2025. For more info, visit official subforum at:

https://www.lfs.net/forum/thread/110186-Layout-Racing-League-2025%3A-Announcement-%26-Schedule

Quote from no_one :

Hi, I have made a couple of posts on the MRc forum, but this forum gets much more traffic so I posted the replays here too.

I haven't posted in the Discord. I will try that next.

I see Happy has already responded on MRc forum - hope the issue is resolved.
If we (team mods) don't respond immediately don't worry we will, eventually. Some may be asleep, others at work, and a few probably drunk . Just reminder that this main LFS website is not the place for private team server reports, unless the team itself has a dedicated forum thread for it

Quote from no_one :

Another bad back marker took out the two lead cars, although he did apologise in Spanish.

Hey, is this on MRc race server? If it is, on behalf of owner HappyD, please lodge formal report on their website forum. It's quicker and more effective that way - https://mrclife.com/ , or on MRc's discord at https://discord.gg/xWsZvMDa (7 days link).

Similarly, if you happen to race on our (AirAttack) servers, and encounter similar... "not fun" drivers, do use our website www.airattackteam.com or our AA discord at https://discord.gg/DXuwh7n7 , or even the boys at Born2Race (B2R) at https://discord.gg/g9G644Gc .

Also similarly, for those who are struggling to find server admins online to kick crashers or bad drivers, we are not online 24/7, although secretly I know everyone wishes we had infinite time and could shapeshift ourselves to be at work and on our gaming PC at the same time.

While we're at it...

Quote from Snoop.DriftEra :

Seems like you never raced at Ai Atrack GTI server, where they just timeattacking through you and admins support that behaviour among with trolling and stealing other people's skins and names.

We (practically every team) strive to treat everyone fairly regardless of their seniority or ability. Only thing stopping us from being in server to kick/ban people is timing. Sometimes, we aren't there.... so that's where your reports are important. Afterall, you are the one enjoying the demo servers all the teams provide, if by chance we're not there to administrate it, use your initiative.

Now would the subsection mod please lock this thread?

Quote from Nighty :

Not played for a while, still fun, nice to see graphics/track improvements. Even managed a PB after all these years.

Welcome back! And happy new year, very very soon!

Quote from Viperakecske :

super important update it would be

For once gabor isn't wrong on the forums

Meh suggestion but I think this still falls under the general "car engine sounds update" godzillion threads that santa sees annually.

Quote from subUwU :

I didn't bother recording and uploading it, but it was multiple races already that others were complaining of his driving, not to mention he did some weird contact with 2 other drivers shown in the video which were 100% avoidable if he had more patience

He's impatient but more to the point he seems to not know the dimensions of his car. That's causing the contacts and stumping his runs. Don't just move over though, he needs to learn to drive cleanly.

Quote from subUwU :

dirty impatient racer on [MRc] Beginner BMW
https://youtu.be/-yS-m3JcNlw
Im the FBM with the Renault livery

He seems like a decent fast driver going into low 12s immediately in clean air, maybe he just has bad judgment of his nose/front wing - at least thats what I'm seeing.

The divebomb is horrible though, however it was probably him getting annoyed at you initially weaving and then himself making contact with your left rear. Essentially he got annoyed by himself.

If it were me I'd just continue to monitor his driving versus other drivers and if he does the same or keeps making low percentage moves against others you can just report him to whichever team server you are on.

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Quote from Antonnio Giovannazi :

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Thank you for flavourfully describing iRacing

Agreed! A tiny track config of an enclosed stadium could facilitate not just ROC style events but also SBTV's yearly Soccar event, or even drift tournaments. If the stadium itself has solid barriers around then there will be zero need to build one from slabs and walls. Plus, the atmosphere would be way more immersive and realistic over lyt objects. How detailed the stadium is up to you guys but I doubt it needs to be that high poly as broadcast or mpr cameras wouldn't be zooming into a bench seat

It doesn't need a new world environment either, just maybe using the LA base world and having config 4(LA4X) with just a stadium in the middle of the grid. Frame rate would be epic But as you mentioned earlier the priority would be the existing update package... so these stadium suggestions and everything else can just be considerations for minor follow-up updates

Quote from Scawen :

I'm not suggesting adding more to delay the release, but as a relatively simple thought for the future...

As it's completely enclosed, I wonder if it would be better to have a tiny 'track area' that is just a stadium and nothing else? The same kind of idea as Layout Square, but enclosed instead of open. Because then the frame rate would be as high as possible, instead of having an entire city behind the walls, that you can't see anyway.

Quote from MicroSpecV :

MEGA Monaco exclusive preview

Many thanks to Fragmaster's Ohnifus and Rex for extensive testing. Track's prepped and ready... see you next year!

Quote from Migi999 :

e.g. Zero Two skins, or literally any anime skin while that anime contains nudity

Well, do the skin regulations mention "suggestive", if no then you're fine. It's like saying you'll put a decal of a random burger shop on your car expecting everyone to know it. Those who know that's... good for their health I suppose

If the material you're plastering over your pride and joy skin contains said nudity or partial nudity (e.g sexual in nature) then maybe reconsider your design. If not I don't see why not.

Our resident tech wizard man Firestarter will be on the case shortly...

Layout Racing League - Past Champions and Runner-up

2019 Season 1 - 1st: [TC-R] Pete (109), 2nd: [SQUID] SIMOX (89)
2020 Season 2 - 1st: TRR.Trespasser (166), 2nd: [MRc] Michal (110)
2021 Season 3 - 1st: B2R Antonio (104), 2nd: AA™| Sean (95)
2022 Season 4 - 1st: ｢ﾏｧ｣ Luuk (57), 2nd: S1DUS GaBoR (52)
2025 Season 5 - N/A (active)

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Quote from THEFRENCHDESTOYER :

Hi Nova. I do a official request for the use of your Long Beach layout for the second round of the LFSES serie

Hi, approved for use in your LFSes LFS France league Have checked your modifications as well, all ok. I will Discord you event banner.

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Quote from thegamer23 :

"every rider has to ride himself

MEGA Monaco exclusive preview - the bigger cousin of Mini Monaco... enjoy

(let's say... 20 emoticon reacts and layout gets released... or for the 5th Mini Monaco GP next year; whichever comes first!)

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Known issue, mod desync. Issue with LFS itself and how mods are loaded and synced to players in the server, not network or master server.

Can be confused with crashmod or ufo hack. Affects litetally anyone at random.

JAR had same instance here.
https://www.lfs.net/forum/post/2104001#post2104001

And the other long thread about it
https://www.lfs.net/forum/post/2027048#post2027048

Along with the timeout issues, most certainly some instability in current version. Waiting on reply on both issues... maybe I celebrate 30th birthday... 5 years time 🥱
https://www.lfs.net/forum/post/2105295#post2105295

C'mon, there has to be some explanation, what's this radio silence... Every single server's like this - totally random people get lagged out just like a DDoS would. Not fun.

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Additional:

Yes, disabling MPR saving may help, but then that means us server mods won't be able to do our job. So that's not possible.

Additional 2:
"> Something went wrong between you and the server, so you lost connection. As we don't know what that was, we can't really help. But it's definitely not LFS's fault. The only thing that LFS can do to help is if I implemented a thing where you can rejoin a server without losing all your laps. This would be useful in endurance races."

Seeing this is suddenly affecting a noticable amount of players I doubt we all have ISP or connection issues coincidentally at the same time.

In short, I am telling you something's not right. However you wish to deal with that information is out of my control, but I'd (or we'd in this case) would like to see some sort of remedy or at least a true explaination to this. Because I doubt any of the upcoming winter series leagues would like to be in the fallout of this.

Sincerely,
concerned lfs player

This past week (since 05 Oct 2024) I've been getting MP Stash error followed by timeout at random, with totally stable ping. With reference to this previous thead https://www.lfs.net/forum/post/1869586#post1869586,

Get a better internet connection? 👍 2gbps fiber
Use a cable instead of wireless? 👍 cabled since birth
Don't download things in the background? 👍 nothing
Race on a server with a good connection? 👍 every server has same outcome

I've also noticed an increase in lag and timeout occurrences from seemingly random people across every server imaginable, even if that person has like 80ms ping or never had issues with persistent timeout before. This has been observed by several people the past week. Some timeouts have the 30 second red lag timer, others are instant.

For e.g, Server latency per user fluctuates around 80ms, which is insanely high compared to usual. I can't seem to remain in a server longer than 20mins, then I get timeout at random, same with others. Other times, I somehow stay in the server and have zero issues, while others get timeout.

An observation example: In JAR yesterday, with a full 45 pax server, someone was getting timed out every 5 minutes or so, and at any given time, 4-5 people in the server had red ping. In FM Fox, with around 10, one person timeout every 15 mins. The bigger the server cap, the more people get timed out.

Main question: Anyone knows what's going on with the instability? Is someone attacking the master server again? Hope this reaches people who have experienced this issue, because I'm sure it's not isolated to just me.



(sidenote: this is unrelated to my previous post about high ping from ISP. That's been resolved already)

Last edited by MicroSpecV, Sat 12 Oct 2024, 08:23.

Perhaps a phishing website is currently grabbing login details, or another pirated community (can't remember the name) is publishing its login log file....

Either that or someone's running an ad on LFS page or something malware related that's keylogging the login inputs. However I doubt it is this since LFS website doesn't run ads...?

Quote from RealistAdam :

Isn't LFS already sold at a discount in Turkey? When I first started playing the game, Pete told me that the game was sold at a discount in Turkey.

In my Discord server, players from some different countries were surprised when they heard the price in Turkey. We even received some offers and reported it.

It is natural for a person who is new to the game to find this price really strange. It's not a price that appeals to everyone. That's what developers are aiming for anyway. Because the conditions require it. Nobody wants this project to end one day.

Maybe we're being too hard on the developers, but we're really curious. Please give some information about the new studies. We look forward to new reports.

Yeah this... in 2016 it was no where near 18 pounds for S3. I believe the 2017 price adjustment was also for the same reason OP stated. Plus... Scawen didn't adjust those 18 pounds for inflation from 2017 to 2014, which means the 18 pounds now would be more like 14 pounds in 2017.

So... if theres another discount it'll not be by much I'm guessing.

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Quote from uf1 :

I apologize for the rudeness of my expressions, but there is something you do not understand. In Turkey, at least 10% discount comes to 82.33 TL. There are people who make a living with this money, I want you to at least understand that.
Even though I am aware that what I want to do is fair, as you said, I do not aim for a discount rate only for Turkey. I target all people who cannot save their money.
I apologize for the harsh language I used, that was not my intention.

I emphatise with your situation, but unfortunately you or the people of Turkey aren't the only ones suffering from poverty or poor national income. I've seen LFS S1 to S3 players (who had to work for their game) from tons of underdeveloped countries such as India, Bangladesh, Iraq, Iran, Africa, Lebanon and so forth, some of which with even worse minimum wage than your country. Even Afghanistan, where a steady wage is impossible.

And I don't see them complaining about the price of a game. It's all about perspective, intent, incentive and purpose. If you live a life where everything was attainable with minimal effort, then nothing would be worthwhile, and you'll never really feel accomplishment or treasure what you have. This is nothing about profit or business model, but personal beliefs.

18 pounds for S3 license unlocks virtually 65% of the game's content. 18 pounds in most underdeveloped countries is probably a month or two of dedicated saving and hard work. If you can spend money on a PC that can run the latest FPS games, on a car, on even pet food for two cats - you probably have it in you to ration and save up over maybe a couple more months to get LFS S1 or S2. No one has just gotten a paid game without working for it thru salary at some point.

And yes, Scawen and team could run a discount or sale on the game, but at what cost? This is not an arcade or online pick-up game, if the sale price gets too low you get all kinds of user base into it (as pricing should be fair to all, hence, discount to all). I wouldn't personally want to see privilaged 9 year old kids annoying the hell out of a hard working adult gentleman from a 3rd world country, and then forcing him to give up the game - and the previous 18 pounds he spent. And hence.... theres the perspective you need to see the real, bigger picture.

I hope I've explained it enough that Scawen doesn't have to add another 1000 words below this reply
And sidenote to those saving up for S1-S3: You can and will get LFS license. And it'll feel all so rewarding, once that moment comes.

Last edited by MicroSpecV, Tue 1 Oct 2024, 04:09.