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Formula500 F504 FBM Formula BMW Information

The Formula BMW Series is considered to be the starting step into a life of Single Seater Racing, it is considered the sole entry point and so why not make it the same here. Drivers in the Formula500 Formula BMW series are expected to be new to Single Seaters. This is were Drivers learn the knowledge that they be expected to know when they reach the higher Formula.

The Formula500 F504 FBM Formula BMW series uses the FBM which is an exact replica of the actual Formula BMW car used in real life. The F04 Series is based off the UK Series of Formula BMW, which is now not actually in operation after 2007, however, we will follow that format.

Following below are some of the general details of this particular series within Formula500:

Sessions

Over the course of the Race Weekend, as in real live, we hold several different sessions. These sessions run to a series of regulations which are detailed as in real life within the Regulations Section of the website. These sessions are Practice, Qualifying and the Race.

1x 20 Minute Open Practice Session
2x 10 Minute Qualifying Sessions (one takes place before each race)

The Qualifying Session within Formula BMW is a straight fastest-lap session, with all cars out on the track trying to set the fastest time. The fastest time set in this session will place the driver in Pole Position for the Start of Race One. The Race Two starting grid is set by running a second Qualifying Session before the start of Race Two, this will also be a straight fastest-lap session.

Race One: 60 KM
Race Two: 60 KM

Championship Points & Titles

Top 8 F504 finishers in Race One score points: 10, 8, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.

There are 5 Rounds with Two Races at each.

There is One Constructors Championship
There is One Drivers Championship

Basic Summary of Rules

Drivers must finish 80% of the Race to be considered for classifcation
Teams can run up to Two Drivers per Season (2 Race Drivers)
Drive-Through and Stop-Go Penalties are applied in session
10 Place Drop Penalties are applied for Qualifying Infringements
Drivers can be under investigation throughout Race Weekend & Sessions
25 Second Time Penalty can be applied (if within last 5 laps of race)

Newbies, Oldtimers, Demo'ers.. All Welcomed here.
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Regulations
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This series uses the general guidelines of the Clean Racers Club Competition rules:

1.0 General Rules

1.1 No careless driving, always show respect for your fellow racers, be careful and show patience. Understand the limits of your driving and the equipment and software you are using. Drive with more care and understanding than you would exercise in real life.


1.2 No running into the car ahead of you. The driver who is behind has to take all necessary care and responsibility not to run into a driver ahead of them.


1.3 Know the regulations. Be prepared to have questions asked regarding the regulations and also be prepared for questions in sessions, which have already been answered within the regulations, not to be answered while on track. Knowing the regulations is your responsibility.


1.4 Compete in a fair and honest manner.


1.5 Drive responsibly in a way that is not likely to ruin the racing enjoyment of any other on track.


1.6 Do not behave badly.


1.7 Do not use abusive or offensive language. Do not threaten or become active in stirring up tension.


1.8 Display gentlemanly behaviour at all times. Be prepared to be corrected. Nobody knows everything.


2.0 Competition Directives

2.1 Be prompt when entering a server for a confirmed, timed session. Sessions will start wherever possible at their advertised time. This is the Session Start time, not the time you need to arrive within the server. Basic principles suggest that the earlier you arrive the more time to prepare you will have. Drivers arriving late should be aware that others will be enjoying ongoing sessions, try not to distract these drivers from their sessions. Any avoidable interruptions will be met with penalties.


2.2 If for any reason you cannot attend a planned session, firstly you must contact your Team Manager, who must in turn notify your Class Director. For oversubscribed events, this will allow standby drivers to race.


2.3 If you fail to turn up to a scheduled event at which your attendance was expected or confirmed, your Class Director will report this to the Series Director. If this happens more than twice consecutively, your grid position may be offered elsewhere.

2.4 Team Personnel are responsible for ensuring their drivers are familiar with the Series Regulations stated on this website. Drivers not being aware of regulations can harm themselves, other drivers, and may affect their future participation.


3.0 Pit Guidelines

3.1 Drivers exiting the pit lane into an open session (race, qualify or practice) must be aware that the cars on the racetrack always have right of way. This means that if there is traffic passing the merge-point where the pit lane meets the track, drivers exiting the pit lane must be prepared to slow, or even stop.


3.2 All pit lanes have two lanes, a stopping lane, and a driving lane. The Driving lane is always nearest to the race track. The pit lane speed limit must be observed at all times. When entering the pit lane, drivers must use the pit driving lane until they reach their pit stall. When here, they must slow and part neatly within the pit box. When leaving, stationary cars will observe that cars on the pit driving lane have right of way.


3.3 Always use the furthest available pit box. The pit box nearest to the end of the pit lane in the direction of travel, unless a specific box has been defined.


4.0 Making Contact


4.1 If two or more drivers are involved in an incident of contact resulting in gained places by the guilty driver, that drivers is required to give back freely the positions gained. If this is not done before the end of the race, sufficient penalties may be issued.


4.2 If two or more drivers are involved in an incident of contact resulting in a retirement of others, the drivers involved should expect to be under investigation for the remainder of the race and into the results period.


4.3 Generally making contact will result in car, engine or tyre damage. Normally this is enough of a penalty to have to drive a car, or pit for damage to be fixed, however, consistent contact making drivers should expect to be served with a penalty.


5.0 Cornering Rights & Driving Lines

5.1 Drive with track awareness, of your own car and for those around you. Do not rely on any other driver having the skill or knowledge required to drive closely.


5.2 When overtaking into corners, the overtaking driver must have half of their car half way along the drivers door to be considered to have “overlap” for the corner. At which point, the driver being overtaken must leave sufficient room for the passing driver to try and make the pass.


5.3 “Slamming the door shut” or overly aggressive corner defending which could result in awareness issues for those following will be investigated by the Race Investigations Team.


5.4 Drivers on the outside of corners have the right to space. Meaning drivers cannot push wide to purposely block or squeeze drivers from making a pass.


5.6 Drivers on the inside of corners have the right to space. Meaning drivers cannot cut in tight if there is another car alongside to purposely block of squeeze drivers from making a pass.
5.7 Squeezing is generally not considered as gentlemanly Clean Racing and therefore not permitted.


5.8 Leading drivers have the right to choose their own racing line down a straight. They may make one move to block an attacking car to protect their position. Doing this several times may be considered blocking. Blocking is disallowed as it is not considered to be gentlemanly conduct. Drivers may take up their chosen line for corner entry also.


5.9 Using these or any other regulations to drivers own advantage is not a gentlemanly action. These regulations are to be interoperated as they are stated.


6.0 Driving with Damage

6.1 Drivers with damaged cars must take further care to ensure the safety of others on the track. You will be driving slower than race pace and others will be alerted to this by the use of the Yellow Flag System.


6.2 Drivers with damage to their car are allowed to return to the pit lane for repair, however, if the driver cannot keep the car on the track to return to the pit lane, they may be forced to join the spectators.


6.3 Incidents caused by drivers with damaged cars will have no suitable defence in the instance of a report or claim of fault.


7.0 Initial Fault

7.1 If you make a significant driving error, which allows another driver or drivers to attempt to capitalize on it, they you have reduced rights to make a counter attack. If there was a situation where one driver would have to give way, it should be the driver who made the initial fault.


7.2 Drivers who wish to report others can do so at the end of racing sessions via league processes, not on the server. Drivers taking things “into their own hands” and trying to either force a mistake, or assisting in the mistakes of others will be served with penalties.


8.0 Recovering from an incident

8.1 The driver who is recovering from an incident is entirely responsible for their actions. They are an obstacle and must take all necessary care to minimise the danger to others on the track. If you are off the track, then read Section 9.


8.2 If you are on the track after an incident and still trying to recover, you have no rights what-so-ever. You must give way to all oncoming traffic until you are or can recover safely. This means REMAIN STATIONARY. Moving offline may just distract others and cause further incidents.


8.3 No defence will be suitable should you cause another incident while recovering from one. All non-incident drivers have right of way over anyone recovering from an incident.


9.0 Re-entering the track & Track Boundaries

9.1 The track, is defined by the end of road and start of grass, usually indicated by a single solid white line at the edge of the track. Curbs and rumble strips/grasscrete are considered to be part of the track, but one should have two wheels on the track at all times.


9.2 Overtaking while off the track is illegal and punishable either within a session or afterwards. Gaining an advantage like this is not gentlemanly conduct.


9.3 Drivers who are off the track are solely responsible for making a clean and non interfering re-entry to the track. Drivers should consider the sheer difference in speed of a recovering driver.


9.4 On track drivers have complete right of way over drivers recovering to the track. You will have very little defence if you cause an incident by rejoining without awareness of what is happening around you. If you leave the track through no fault of your own, you still loose all rights until a safe return to the track has been made.


9.5 The returning-to-the-track-after-an-off period includes the recovery period after the actual off when your car may be physically on the track but still constitutes a hazard to on-coming race-speed traffic while you get up to speed and orientate yourself.


9.6 Do not reverse back onto the track unless there is no other option. You are responsible not to cause an incident if you reverse backwards onto the track. If you are to do this, you must wait until the entire field of cars has passed.


10.0 Running into the car ahead of you

10.1 The driver behind has the responsibility of not running into the back of the car in front. Bump drafting is NOT permitted.
Slipstreaming is a perfectly acceptable racing move.


10.2 The driver ahead must not do any malicious or inappropriate braking or slowing to force contact from behind. The driver ahead is entitled to be slower or use longer and earlier braking zones than others. They are also entitled to turn in earlier or later and/or apex earlier or later.


10.3 Behind drivers are expected to anticipate the possibility that ahead drivers may have longer braking zones etc than they do and should be able to respond appropriately.



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Current Entries for the Formula500 F504 FBM Series

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3. DrivenByPassion #3
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mkinnov8
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Hi victor,

When possible, could you please create two subforums of the Formula500 forum named:

'FBM Demo Series' & 'FBM S2 Series'

Thank you in advance.
mkinnov8
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What is new to show? I didn't think the posting of test patches was usual practice for the LFS website. Most of the updates come with the release of a new S2 Patch.
mkinnov8
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and you got that from?
mkinnov8
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Fixed setups in LFS is possible with a bit of help from those who know what they are doing!! Check out these threads:

http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=41804
http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=41953

Not sure if its still developed, but a useful tool regardless.

Id love to enter, but not free one the dates of your competitions.
mkinnov8
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Nice one Leprekaun, looks like a good, well thought out league and I hope it goes well.

Best wishes
mkinnov8
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Quote from th84 :Why was there not all the fuss about "banger racing" servers? Or what about all the "cops n robbers" servers that used to be around? Neither one of those two examples qualify as "racing" (imo). I just dont see what the big deal is. These "cruisers" have bought and paid for their license's/servers just like everyone else has, who am I to decide how they go about using it. Do you "racers" not want to support the devs and see them prosper from this great game that they have created for us? Im pretty sure that the "cruisers" have paid the same price for their licenses that the "racers" have.

So it is ok for the "big teams" to have a cruise sever or two, but for everyone else it is stupid? Did I read that right, or am I confused?

As far as this forum goes, give the crusiers their own section of the forum...problem solved.

P.S. I hate cruise servers too, which is why I dont join them.

Good post, which brings me on to this.. Im sure if the LFS dev's wanted crusing to be a part of LFS they would have created a seperate mode for it.. (worries me slightly that they put a cruise filter/option into the dedi). But yes, you are right, its their server and licence etc etc.. but LFS is a Racing Simulator, not so much a driving simulator. The thing is, LFS is about the most adaptable, which is why these things have sprouted up here..

But people are starting to come to the forums to ask about LFS and the Crusing Simulation.. "is it part of the game", "is it included with the S2 licence"..

I dont hate the servers, nor the idea totally, its just there is a lot of them now, and a lot more requests for them, and it doesnt appear to be settling down any.

+1 for a seperate section.
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The sheer amount of people requesting "insim cruise" servers on their lfs servers is getting rather silly. If only there was a filter for the forums filtering out all the cruise server talk!
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Quote from J@tko :I've yet to find a server on the list that gives you as much out-of race information and support as CTRA, nor one that has such a comprehensive reporting system

I doubt you will find one either, its not the server thats giving up the information, its the insim addon which isnt standard on every server, thankfully.
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Quote from SamH :Please take a moment to read the thread you're posting in.

Yep, considering having to click several times on the page to quote, copy paste etc, im fairly sure I did so, otherwise your point has flown over my dumb head.

^^ posted before seeing your above edit.

Sounds good to me.. can I come?!
mkinnov8
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Quote from thisnameistaken :I think, given that this is a public forum, it's reasonable to assume that any post you read is that poster's personal opinion unless it's accompanied by the disclaimer "This is established fact and not my personal opinion". Otherwise the forum would fill up with redundant "In my opinion" disclaimers quicker than it fills up with "I did this" userbars.

Ah, fair point yes

Quote from SamH :I don't see the routine habitual moronic behaviour in every race from 16 drivers at a time that's being purported.

And probably never will, but thats your call, others will be different, (in the same tone as some of the later text you wrote below) "deal with it."

Quote from SamH : Maybe the CTRA system really is doing irrepairable damage to the general behaviour of racers in public servers as Kev says. What a sorry state of affairs indeed. Who could have predicted that, eh? The CTRA system responsible for ****ing up everybody else's servers. Perhaps we should just concede it was a nice idea but it didn't work the way we wanted, hang up our gloves and walk away.

Er, ok then. Note that no one other than yourself sam mentioned that. It sounds like the usual "people dont agree or see it one way so ill just take my ball home" to me. Firstly, these servers are your own, just like any other server owner, you can run your servers however you wish, you know that. You also know you dont have to justify anything to anyone that you dont want to. The line "thats just the way it is" is sometimes helpful in these situations

The point about the above statement that sticks with me is this:

Quote :Who could have predicted that, eh? The CTRA system responsible for ****ing up everybody else's servers.

Erm, LOL! If you really think this, then perhaps it is time to take some time off from ctra, perhaps try some other servers.. non ctra servers, expect nothing and see what other people are doing with LFS, without all this extra coding and buttons. I dont believe it should be thought that ctra would be responsible for "****ing up" other peoples servers, I dont believe it should be given that weight outside of its own servers.

To me, its just like any other 3rd party app.. LFS Lapper, LFS Buddy, damnit, ive the cruise servers, they all do a job and add some extra functionality into LFS.

Quote from SamH :

Wait, I've had another idea. I'm mentally consigning this utter pile of complete bollocks to the bin.

Yeh.. Dont. Its worth thinking about im afraid. Yes, there are many who enjoy ctra servers (me included), but it does have its faults.. show me something that doesnt? Its not bollocks, the thread evolved into something which people felt needed to be said..

Quote from SamH :If you don't like what we do, then **** off and don't bother coming back. If it sucks, what the **** are you doing there anyway?

Im really guessing you dont mean that, and in the cold light of day, if you read that statement made by someone else about the ctra, you wouldnt like it. As said above, your servers, on which you can and will do whatever you like, with the same rights as any other server administrator, but, you wouldnt be that damn right rude to your potential users. I dont believe you have that in you.

Quote from SamH :... SNIP... and I'll be buggered if I'm gonna let some gripey minority neysayers on a forum do me over... SNIPl

Ive cut some of that out because I fail to find the connection, this is no and has never been personal Sam, as you said yourself earlier.

Occationally, these group of gripy members have something to say, and eventually, minorities are listened to.
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Quote from The Moose :Had he actually based his comments on facts rather than a possible bad 30mins on a server then i would agree, but stating "it's not CTRA’s fault they have a wrecker problem in some servers" is sloppy journalism because it's a load of made up tosh.

Yes. of course, in your opinion, which you must have forgotten to add, simple mistake to make however.

A small note on what ive read so far in this thread.. im happy its being discussed. I have to air on the side of saying that im slightly worried about the lack of support for servers with actual admins.

CTRA has done good stuff.. for pickup racing, and will continue to develop, but will never have the ability to be "there" as an in-server administrator would.. The $admin thing.. is still having to call an admin to the server, so not really solving the issue, if there was one.

CTRA is trying to fill the boots and do the job which was in the past conducted by real live administrators, its not, and will never be a replacement in my mind, but its an almost middle ground.

Again, the R2P comparison was.. unfair to begin with, but I feel the discussion has moved on from there.

CTRA wasnt the first, isnt the whole solution and wont be the last effort to do what its trying to do. But it does give me something to do in the day time!

PS, if the manpower is low, does the GTRA not consider appealing for help?

Idle 4:15am-bloody-insomnia-thoughts
mkinnov8
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Its not so much that CTRA has a "wrecker problem" its LFS in general Can have a "wrecker problem".

The thing is, to outsiders the CTRA is associated with LFS, and so people tend to believe CTRA is part of LFS... its not, its a third-party addon, just like any other insim driven script. Fix the main LFS problem, and all will trickle down to all the additional organisations.

Its not an obvious problem, as people will claim to have never seen an actual wrecker on a S2 server, but the thing is, they do exist, and they are banned from most servers. But there will always be the one or two that get through.

I dont agree that its sloppy journalism, its a viewpoint which the author has had. But I think its.. not equal to compare Race2Play and CTRA to begin with.
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Quote from thisnameistaken :

Personally I don't see the appeal of dual-class competitions in LFS - I'd rather have a whole grid of cars that can compete with eachother.


Me neither, but I wanted to try it so ive done the GFC with the FOX and FO8 on track together, and now this season the GTTC with the TBO's and GTR's which im really enjoying.

The LX series is titled as so as it uses both the LX4 and the LX6. There are three races per session, one LX4 race, one LX6 Race (unrestricted) and then one all together race, were the LX6 is restricted slightly. Not to match speeds exactly, but to give the podium a change at not holding three LX6 drivers each race.

There are three Championship tables also. One LX4 class, one LX6 class and one Overall Championship for both classes.
mkinnov8
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If there are two triangles on a shelf. Both the same, but one has dirt all over it and one is nice and new, which one are you going to choose?

If the LX6 is offered unrestricted, and a miricle happens and there are 16 LX6 entries.. is anyone going to choose the LX4?
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Er, cheers for that. "had a lot going for you, but I'm not sure anymore"...

On Second thought. Thanks for taking the time to comment, if nothing else, its given the thread some activity.
mkinnov8
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Ah now I never said restricted to get almost the same lap times.. I said
Quote :The restriction is to make the gap between the two classes less. To equal things out. To give perhaps a reason for people to want to try the LX4.

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The league scene for LiveForSpeed is well over saturated at the moment, drivers are very much spoilt for choice.
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What about them?

I guess there is some confusion, well there is indeed for me! Two different cars, both LX's LX4 and LX6 - different specifcation of cars, on track together at the same time.. therefore duel class racing.
mkinnov8
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I cant understand that Blackbird. I cant understand how an entirly different car can be in the same class as another? Even if restricted.

The title of Duel Class Racing.. is a forum topic title, the series title is RaceSIM LX EuroSeries. There are of course two different tables for the championship, and a third for the mixed races.

The LXO cup.. yes, it looks good, but the entry list isnt full, and there were many more asking for LX leagues.. so where the hell are you all?
mkinnov8
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How is limiting the LX6 not duel class? - Two cars, on track at the same time.. They are the the same type of car, but cirtainly not the same class.

Read further tho. The LX6 is only restricted in the dual class races. The restriction is to make the gap between the two classes less. To equal things out. To give perhaps a reason for people to want to try the LX4.

The restriction is the only difference between this season and the last, and that is purely because when the first season ran, we had no restriction settings to play with.

If it proves to be that unpopular, the current entered drivers will vote on the choice of removing the restriction from the LX6 or not. But in doing so, does it not basically automaticly hand the Duel class events to LX6 drivers?
mkinnov8
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This particular series is LX only (which was wanted at some point), but Formula500 currently offers BF1, FO8, FOX, FBM (s2 and Demo) and MRT series also.
mkinnov8
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I seriously cannot believe there has been no interest in this.. why is that? Is it the day/time of the scheduled events? is it something about the series all together? Is it seen a too serious?

There are always moans around the forums about the lack of LX servers or LX events.. So when this, a seasoned series returns, there is absolutly no interest..

Is that just the current state of lfs? Is everyone bored? I really hope things pick up, otherwise, league developers and sponsors are going to start walking away to other simulation communities where there is a little more action.
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