Im happy enough with a small grid, as long as those signed up turn up. But, if we can get more..

Six is better than 4.. Keep em coming!

Four is better than 2.. Keep em coming!

Admins not required Chris, why not give yourself a rest and race

Rounds 9 & 10 - South City Chicane Route
Friday 17th April 2009

Sprint Race: 20 Minutes or 9 Laps
Feature Race: 35 Minutes of 20 Laps

Start time: For the remainder of this season (two rounds) we will keep the start time to 9pm, however, be on the server sharply for a quick start.

To signup for RaceDay 5, please reply either here on the LFS Forums or here with the following information:

Real Name & Race Number:
LFS Username:
Team:

Last edited by mkinnov8, Fri, 17 Apr 2009 18:42.

With immediate effect, RaceSIM has taken control of the IMA's Open Wheel Trophy. This change has come in an effort to save the Open Wheel Trophy and inject new life into the series.

All current entrants of the series remain in the series if they wish to continue. Several Operational changes will be made before the next scheduled event, which will be held as Scheduled on Friday 17th April 2009, however the start time may be changed as a result of a poll which is currently running for series drivers.

All drivers will be informed in due course as to the changes which will effect the Open Wheel Trophy.

The planned "Festival of Aston" has been dropped from season one, and at the end of the series, an option will be provided for a second series of the Open Wheel Trophy.

Drivers of the series should allow themselves to be redirected to the Open Wheel Trophy board at the RaceSIM Forums. Particularly the Driver Poll's section, which is provided for you the driver to give us feedback, to see where to take the Open Wheel Trophy.

If we all pull together, we can make the final two rounds of the Open Wheel Trophy as good as it gets.

Best regards,
RaceSIM

For more information regarding this change, please contact Kev Higgins at the RaceSIM forums or PM either 'mkinnov8', 'mr_b', or 'pacesetter'.

Quote from Wilko868 :

Not enough drivers to finish. Sorry OWT Admins but I can't admin an event with 1 hours notice, I have to make the time.

Why was there a situation where you had an hours notice?

I'd imagine that at least one of you knew that the race had moved to a Friday. Nothing was posted previously regarding a lack of admins. When a series is run, it requires commitment, not just from the drivers, but from its administrators. If situations arise that mean the league is without and administrator, it may be an idea to inform the drivers, who've given up thier time to attend the entire session.

Admins are not the only ones who "have to make the time", and considering what the league started with in terms of offerings, broadcast etc etc, and considering what it is now, it could easily be "admined" by a driver, the series has no need or requirement for a dedicated non-racing admin.

Quote from jwardy :

windge away

Congratulations on finding the most negative way to start an inevitable thread. Right there from the off, that gives me the impression that all you are expecting is moaning and whinging. Which by itself give the additional impression that it really doesnt matter all that much either way.

Fair enough, when you have signups who dont attend, and drivers who dont even finish a race meeting, these things can grate on your ability to be bothered, but the general impression I get from these events, is that, the series was rushed together, with first off - great interest shown.

But now I kinda see this series as something created to generate interest in your second series, the TBO series. Was it really a good idea to start off another series without first completing one? Did that not damage the OWT?

What happened this evening was frankly, pathetic.

The unsportsman-like behaviour shown by those who up'ed and left after thier race was over. That was very rude to those who stayed and attempted to finish. Complete crap, these drivers should be embarrised. But they wont be.

Was the league moved to a friday evening at 9pm so that it could be left to die off unnoticed?

OWT officials.. ask yourselves:

Why was this league setup?
Do you care about this particular league?
Does your public image matter to your Organisation?

Drivers of OWT, ask yourselves:

Why did you sign up to this particular league?
Do you care about this particular league?
Does it matter to you if you stay the course or quit?

Disclaimer: Comments made are observations from a drivers point of view. I am not trying to take away anyone's fun. I am also not "whinging". As a driver of this series, I am expressing my concerns that the OWT is dead, and has been placed into this place of deadness, through both driver and admin failures.

Whats with this latest trend of dragging up the oldest threads possible.. are people really that bored?

...make one up.. (in support of GreyBull [CHA]'s) NON-stupid post..

Open your eyes and look at what you've previously written. Im positve your ban was not for your taking out of your team mate, but rather the very childish and pathetic attitude you shown afterwards.

9pm start times can still be good.. cut out any practice time, run qualifying then straight into race 1 & 2 and events can be done by 11pm. Also, its a friday, so people aren't so eager to get to bed (if they are in).

One of the worst things to do with a league is to change the day/time mid season. But it was discussed within your meeting I believe, so the drivers were at least aware of it. Chris - Run the sessions as sharp as they were the other night and 9pm start time wont be a problem

5 hours of administration work a day.. sorry, but.. doing what? - My team know I do a lot for them, but its more like 5 minutes a day these days. The team runs itself.

On the other hand, if the members of the team flat refuse to do anything to help, then closure is probably the best thing to do. If my team mates flat refused to help, It'd make me not arsed to try too.

Best of luck in the future.

Quote from Wilko868 :

It also clashes with the NDR Easter Event

Which came first?

Fridays are fine for me, (So were saturdays, it was just a little early)

Sorry if i've missed an update, but in this post it states Friday evenings for the continuation of the series.. I'd not be able to make the proposed 04/04/09 @ 9pm due to another series i'd be running at that time. - It's not a problem either way, I just wondered was the Friday change.. changed to a Saturday?

Name: 03 Kev Higgins
Username: mkinnov8
Team: drivenbypassion

Best of Luck Dan & Co.

Shout up if you need a hand!

What an evening ,

Really enjoyed that return to the track in LFS, it's been quite some time and that was really fun. I didn't qualify too great, 13th I think, but well pleased to see such a grid there.

Started ok and ended up 7th by the end of lap one, caught the grass entering the final corner soon after as slipped back to 10th or lower, but alas, still going.

Next number 17 half-spun trying to overtake someone and ended up in the middle of the track, he stayed stationary for a moment before moving forward a little, and this was when I ran into him, trip through the gravel, several places lost, but still going.

A few laps later, someone else.. cant remember the number now, but caught him and passed fairly and cleanly, he lined up for a repass at the next corner, but with a lack of overlap there was contact which sent him spinning out backwards. It was one of those risky moves, he took a risk, it didnt work out in his favor, but I think he kept going.

Made it back up to 6th in the end for Race 1. That will do me.

Race 2 wasnt all that great, but a good start put me up in 4th or 5th by the end of lap one, where it started to go downhill after that.. Somewhat worn tyres and some stationary tyres ended my hopes in the pitlane.. twice!

9th I think (last) at the end of that one, not the best, but I really did enjoy that. Hope to see most of you there again next time.

Cheers

Quote from Jordan2007 :

I Know im a hazard but why do you think i kept asking to start up the back of the grid..

Ok, so thumbs up to you for that I guess.

Quote from Jordan2007 :

im not buying a brand new computer for a stupid league which you dont exactly get any achievement from it..

Firstly, did anyone ask you to matey? No, I didnt think so. Secondly, its not a Stupid League, it's actually quite well thought out, and Im sorry that you personally do not get any achievement from it, but you wont starting at the back with 0.5fps. But th thing you need to realise is that it's not just you on track, there are other people there too.

Quote from Jordan2007 :

Its a sim racing game so i dont give a crap if i crash into anyone. Its not real..

Its actually not a sim racing game, thats a contradiction, the clue is kinda in the title, Online Racing Simulator. It may not be real, but it is intended to simulate real life. An attitude like yours in real life.. wont get you very far.

You dont give a crap if you crash into anyone? Its not real, that is the only part you are correct about, however, why should anyone put up with you crashing into them?

Act your age, unless, you are acting your age, then its your age thats the problem. But if you drive in real life, then someday you will meet someone on the real road who cares a little that you dont give a crap if you crash.

Soon hopefully.

Quote from Wilko868 :

48 hours mate

Cheers

Quote from Jordan2007 :

Yeh but you dont get it.. When you are running Like 0.5 FPS YOU CANNOT SEE ANYTHING..

If you are seeing 0.5fps, take a second to ask yourself if you should be racing.. Im only saying that because if thats all you can see, you are likely to be a hazard to others on track.

Regarding the penalty issued to you, the RD did everything right, you caused a hazard, regardless of if you apologised or not, and you found yourself with penalty. Thats an open - shut case imo.

Regarding the Race Director.. The bits that mattered.. Perfect. Keep it up.

Is there a deadline for protests? - I have possibly 1-2 to post, however, I have another league about to start and dont want to miss any deadlines..

Im running a 1:10.xx pace, which im very much pleased with. Looking forward to getting back on the track, it's been a while.

Great password btw

I'll be there on Sunday, if room

Quote from s1nn0n :

Well, cant believe the prices on this one! We are now running a 40 Slot server for a tenner! Just though id share this for anyone after a server at the mo.

I took that as meaning "They have rented a 40 slot server for a tenner" - and was sharing that information with our community .

The opening poster claims to be sharing a source with us, he doesnt claim to have anything to do with the actual website..

Also, while its bad practice to say "cheapest in the UK", at the time it was written, who's to know if it was correct or not?

Just sharing my thoughts.

Hiya,

Just wondered if there will be some kind of.. report from the Tuesday Meeting.. An action plan for the future of the Open Wheel Trophy?