Quote from Mp3 Astra :

I was wondering, why for race 1 you didn't use the qualifying order to set the grid. Am I missing something?

The qualifying order was what I transfered over to the Grid Ordering App Joe wanted to try. Once that order was set, that request was successfully sent to LFS. As it turns out, as far as I'm aware there were there were a few errors in this order. This was spotted and the race shortly afterwards stopped under the direction of Joe.

Quote from BigTime :

The race 2 grid was the one that really had me scratching my head.

Race 2 grid was incorrect BigTime? - This was checked by three of us, so please, enlighten. I did this one in a more, old-fashioned way, manually, using my brain power.

Quote from Mp3 Astra :

Race 1 grid was abandoned and we waited for a good 10 minutes while it was sorted out. I don't actually know if it was incorrect or not; but John and Joe definitely thought it was.

It was incorrect, the Pole position guy was placed to last. This was spotted, the race ended, then the task of resorting the grid was undertaken. - These situations are stressful, and while everyone wishes to help out and do thier best, when drivers take over and place themselves on the grid, things can easily get confusing.

I got confused. The "10 minute delay" was extended through my confusion. But the grid was set and the racing eventually got underway.

Quote from Gil07 :

Couldnt you just have restarted from quali? The grid should've been fine without any apps? Same for race 2 if it's the finishing order... Or am I missing something here?

To my knowledge you are correct, and this is initially what I thought would happen. However, we had no knowledge that there should be a problem.

Personally I prefer a manual grid set in the lobby, I have more control over the order. (or at least in my head thats how it works). But this manual method requires co-operation, without this, confusion creeps in.

Im sure your racing wasnt ruined by my failures. Once the racing was running, I was told everything was going fine. There was some really exciting racing happening, when you wernt all trying stupid moves.

Quote from squidhead :

not "any one elses" but "your" in this case. If you wish to work for free and select the best possible angles, spenging hours to record and give it away - be my guest... Anyway, I'm more interested in you hosting 10-30 GB of raw video data

Re-read my post. I never said i'd spend hours selecting the best possible angles. I said I'd offer to record the mpr from the LFS TV camera view. Thats all. - As far as I was aware, thats all the OP was asking for.

Oh, and they wouldnt be "my" camera angles, they are nobodies angles, they just exist - if and when anyone chooses to use them is thier business, there is no ownership over a camera angle.

Like most things, it's what you do with it that counts.

Also, you seem to be under the impression that the OP is asking for a lot - He aint really, ok, he's not totally clear on what he wants, but its a 3-4 minute mpr, the raw file was approx. 6.9gb, and that didnt take much effort.

Regardless, if you think im "wasting" my time, thats my business not yours. To the OP - the offer stands.

Erm, hmm..

Ok, I downloaded your replay, but you didnt really specify what you wanted recording.. There are three drivers on the mpr, two drifting together, and yourself drifting alone..

Happy to record with the normal LFS TV Camera view so you are not "using any one elses camera work" - Quite possibly the silliest thing ive read on these "pages of gold"! But yes, if you want to specify more what you want, or wish to try again with another mpr, im more than happy to record and host the file while you download.

drivenbypassion is again proud to be running its Back 2 Basics, simply racing series. Now in Season Three, this is the first time we bridge the gap by using more simulations than just LiveForSpeed.

We are welcoming clean drivers to the series.

The season consists of four rounds in total, with one round using LFS, two rounds using rFactor and one round using nKP.

We welcome you to join us in all of these events, but if you dont wish to leave the LFS comfort zone (joke), you may just take part in the LFS rounds if you wish - We want your company, so as long as you race cleanly, we dont mind.

The Full Season Schedule is included below, and after that, some more details regarding the LFS rounds of the series..

Quote from dbpStoney :

Season Schedule Announced!
Hope you enjoy the dbpB2B Reunion Tour!! Details below:

Season Duration: 4 Weeks
Season Events: 4x3 10 Lap race meetings, 1x3 weekly
Simulations: LFS, rFactor, netKar PRO
Attendance: dbpDrivers are all pre-entered, Guests welcomed
Entry Proceedure: Post interest in this thread (as shown below), then Turn Up
Race Director: dbpStoney (oh God)
End of Race Proceedure: Finish the race and clear the start/finish line for finishing drivers.
Event Day: Thursday
Event Time: 8pm UK GMT

Week One - LiveForSpeed
Thursday 29th January 2009

5 Minute Practice Session at each different track before the race
No Qualifying - All Random Grids

Blackwood RallyCross Reversed in the UF1 (10 Laps)
South City Sprint 2 Reversed in the MRT (10 Laps)
Fern Bay Gold Reversed in the RAC (10 laps)

Week Two - rFactor
Thursday 5th February 2009

5 Minute Practice Session at each different track before the race
No Qualifying - All Random Grids

Blyton RallyCross in the Madcowie MiniCross Mini's (10 Laps)
Brands Hatch RallyCross in the Madcowie MiniCross Mini's (10 Laps)
Blackwood RallyCross in the Madcowie MiniCross Mini's (10 Laps)

Week Three - netKar PRO
Thursday 12th February 2009

5 Minute Practice Session at each different track before the race
No Qualifying - All Random Grids

Newbury 2006 in the F1600 (demo car) (10 Laps)
Newbury 2002 in the F1600 (demo car) (10 Laps)
Newbury 2006 in the F1600 (demo car) (10 Laps)

Week Four - rFactor
Thursday 19th February 2009

5 Minute Practice Session at each different track before the race
No Qualifying - All Random Grids

Interlagos Brazil in the Formula Nippon (10 Laps)
Montreal Canada 2008 in the Formula Nippon (10 Laps)
Suzuka Japan in the Formula Nippon (10 Laps)

Please note that for Simulations which require extra content (rFactor and possibly nKP), this content will be provided 1 week before the event's take place. It is your responsibility to download and install, and check (using practice servers) that your content is correctly working. When providing links, we will pre-package the content for easy installation. We will also provide alternative original links, should users wish to mod thier installations that way.

See you all trackside.

Further details regarding the LFS Rounds of the series:

Week One - LiveForSpeed
Thursday 29th January 2009

5 Minute Practice Session at each different track before the race
No Qualifying - All Random Grids

Blackwood RallyCross Reversed in the UF1 (10 Laps)
South City Sprint 2 Reversed in the MRT (10 Laps)
Fern Bay Gold Reversed in the RAC (10 laps)

Sorry for the short notice, only just realised I hadn't posted here.



The races are very straight forward.. There will be about 5 minutes of practice before each race, and all races are 10 laps a piece. There is no qualifying, all grid's are random, and points will be awarded to all.

Results will be published shortly after the event and will be available for all to see.

Come on down for 30 friendly racing laps this thursday evening.

See you there.

Quote from zeugnimod :

I'd say most likely a new thread in the Test Patch forum.

huh! That will be the day

Sorry, but I think this is not so much a bug. The example config you posted is ordered different to have the LFS Dedi comes configured default. It may just be a requirement of LFS that it needs to know what mode to start in before knowing what track to select.

I only see this being a problem if there was some reason not to place mode before track, and I cannot honestly see a need to change the order in which the LFS config is written (please tell me if there is, I dont mean to sound offensive or whatever, but I just cant see why)

Basically, to me this is only a bug if one purposly re-arranges the order of config of an LFS Server.

EDIT: Reproduceable via the method indicated above, but that would be taken as given, as the above config is not in the correct order

Are you talking about the Z3 dedi? - I cant confirm this bug, it works fine for me, mode is already before track.

Not really, as its really not a hard thing to edit, if you follow instructions, but feel free to post it up.

Housekeeping in the RaceSIM Subforum..
http://www.lfsforum.net/forumdisplay.php?f=205

The threads in the main Subforum can be removed/hidden, these are well out of date and no longer required.

Could a Subforum be placed inside the RaceSIM Subforum called "RaceSIM Archive" and the Subforums id=208 and id=217 be placed inside this RaceSIM Archive Forum please.

Could you please add "MR_B" as a moderator too.

Thats all for now. Thanks Victor.

I dont think there is anything that would allow you to do that, short of running two lfs's at the same time, but then you'd need two licences etc..

Interesting idea tho!

Quote from traxxion :

My guess would be to keep the turbo pressure up?

Quote from traxxion :

I wasn't defending his behavior, I was merely answering Stoney's question why he was riding with the brake on.

Understood, but he applied the brake again right by the start/finish line.. The car behind couldnt react in time, as there was contact there, right before Rudy darts off.

If the cars would have been side by side at that point, and Rudy applied the brakes, the following car would have passed before the start/finish and been awarded a penalty for overtaking.

Anyway, just my opinion, I thought it was an aweful way of restarting a race.

As for support of the overtake, while I dont usually support eye for eye racing, Rudy should probably have expected such a move after pushing so much with the botched restart. It was only a matter of time before cooler head's overtook.

I wasnt there, but watched most of the evening's racing via the broadcast (which was presented well). However, I couldnt understand the restart performance from Rudy.

Firstly, why was you riding the brake? Why in a straight line? I understand bunching cars up, and doing so to gain an advantage when you choose to break from the pack, but there was no reason to do it 'to the line'.. It's not your responsibility to allow those at the back to catch up. You must control the field behind the safety car and not pass it before the start/finish line..

Which could have been done much easier by slowing at the top of the hill, letting the safety car get to the, or near to the pit lane, then choosing the moment to break, giving you a run from the final corner to make some space, in a more sportsmanlike way before turn one.

The eventual overtake for the lead was harsh, but no less deserved after the restart.

Sorry Rudy, I think you lost your cool, and with it, the race victory. Congrats to all, looks like an entertaining season for the spectators!

Wasnt aimed at anyone , its just the "What should I do?" was already given in the error No aiming here

"Connection error, try again"

Did you try again?

/Both locations working fine for me, which they should, being the same feed etc .

Broadcasts were good tonight, as was the Race Admining... The Racing on the other hand..

Hi there, welcome to the forums.

A simple search of the forums gave me this. It's the only one I know of, and may not work with the current version of LFS, however it also may work with the current version of LFS.

Good Luck!

Hmm yes, ok , thats not really what I was saying or asking, but if there are servers which you can connect to, I guess X is still "allowed" to connect to the master and be unlocked.

Cant help you with LFS Lapper, but im sure one of LFS's current hosting providers can sell you a server, or a number of servers, including demo servers for use however you see fit.

You can give your team members access to these servers using the control panel which most hosts use to host lfs. Not sure however how using version X would work (unsure if it's been removed from the master server, can anyone confirm)?

Basically as long as you and your team are willing to pay, im sure there are hosts that can accomodate your requests.

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www.experionhosting.com
www.gamehosters.net
www.gamesclan.com


Good luck

Seems online now..

Quote from EQ Worry :

EDIT: A friend just reminded me there is in fact space for one more button in the options screen, behind the selection of kmph and mph. Ideal place for a button to switch on/off best speed in race messages. The option will be available in Airio 1.9.3, of course saved into profile...

I know nothing about all this coding etc, so forgive me , but is there any reason why a 2nd (3rd, 4th etc) page of options couldnt be used for the GUI - for the future adding of options/switches etc?

I believe there is a limit to the number of buttons on screen at once or something, but just a thought for the future perhaps..

Quote from Ikaponthus :

I can't tell for sure - and nobody here can, whether they think so or not - which game is the more authentic and realistic.

Well said

Quote from Ikaponthus :

I haven't tried iRacing yet, and I don't plan to. The pricing is ridiculous and I can't imagine anything giving a much more authentic driving experience than LFS. I would be interested to compare the Legends cars in rFactor and iRacing though

Agreed on the pricing, but having tried it for a few months, I cant really say iRacing gives any improvements over LFS in terms of authentic driving experience, except that the damage model seems more developed, but still soft, squidy and bendy.

Quote from S14 DRIFT :

Uhm, no. rFactor sucks.

Now I realise later in your post you said about trying the demo, but if I may.. Have you tried any more than the demo? as your "rFactor Sucks" comment I believe relates directly to the demo, but not to the hundreds of community made mods out there that add so so much to the game.

It's definatly a Game in my mind, I cant compare it on simulation grounds, but there are those who do and fair play to them. rF's damage modeling is far greater than LFS/iRacing put together.

Personally I find the rF Physics to be on a par with everything else, it gets bad press about that, which ive never really understood.

But all in all, rFactor Demo Sucks, not anything else.

Quote from dougie-lampkin :

Does this apply to web servers too, Franky?

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Nice Video, Best of luck from drivenbypassion.

best of luck for the new year.

No problem, but curious now, What was the reason the host was required? Also why for 12 hours a day?

My first question would be "Why?" For what reason do you need the server, Why do you need it for 12 hours also?

Thanks