hehe, i can send you a lot of replays , so i can show you what is worse

We wnat to see behind, thats why we want the mirror :P

Not really, because that are basic game things which take effect to everyone. Like you said, that would be a step in the wrong direction. That what i meant with realistic physics, that has to be realistic.

Which input the players uses (Wheel, joystick, mouse...) or which view (cockpit, tyre or chase) should be down to each single person, because that only influences his way of driving.
If i drive chase view it doesnt affect others simulation fun.

Last edited by Nobo, Sat 29 Jul 2006, 10:06.

Quote from Whisper :

I thought the whole point of a simulation was to get as close to reality as possible, so driving in a chase cam view seems like a step in the opposite direction.

I think first of all the developers would have to make the cars behave realistic in any way.
The choose of controller and view is down to the player how much realism he wants and how he can controll the game. Forcing people into cockpit view and using wheels is not the right way to treat people. As long as i have not the same feeling in this virtual cockpit like in a real car its unrealistic. There are certain things i need to see or feel while driving.
If there wouldnt have been the chase view i wouldnt have touched the game after one day of use....and that would mean , that i wouldnt have met a lot of great people in the lfs community
So i dont understand the realsim discussion, adding the mirrors to the chase view wouldnt affect anyones realism, I will drive chase view if there is a mirror or not. It wouldnt be bad for any cockpit driver (wouldnt affect your realism) and wouldnt affect your racing. It can only be good if more chase view drivers are aware whats going on behind them!!

Last edited by Nobo, Sat 29 Jul 2006, 08:17.

I just found out why i drive chase view.....anyone remembers Re-Volt :P
Just found it in my old discs

so take away all the other views and make the other views only available in replay view, then we are all happy, but as long as you can choose the views, the chase view should have the same right as tyre view for example.

And please take away the support for keyboard, gamepad and mouse , becuase thats unrealistic.....
ah yeah and please let only lfs drivers race who have a full cockpit at home.....illepall

Quote from wark :

Can one really drive competitively from the chase view?:duck:

Look at the OWRL results, www.owrl.de search for FPR|ALDI#13 and make your opinion yourself

I have tons of replays to show you, that chase view has a lot of advantages...yesterday i have been banned from a server because one of the admins hasnt seen me on his inside...lol :P

Last edited by Nobo, Fri 28 Jul 2006, 16:08.

You know you have my vote! It makes it difficult in league races! But with the time you get used to it!

Its allready in noted requests (finally): http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=9869

But i dont know if they'll work on this in some time....

have you edited one of the default skins, because then, if another car uses a default skin, its shown as yours!!!

When i begun LFS i edited on of my skins in my skinsx folder and i wondered why everyone had stolen my crappy ALDI -skin!!

The sign up goes over the forum. There you can sign up for a team. For example, my team Redbull Racing, we always had a free spot in each single race, except the first one. Post on the forums that you are interested to race, there are some teams searching for a driver.
Greets
ALDI

No, i dont think all places are taken. I drive in the SimFIA:F1 and SimFIA: DTM ...there were allways free spots left.
In which one you are interested?

2006 and "still" running, you know that m8!

I crashed a speeder because the voices told me to!
WTF????

illepall

Quote from Thorvertonian :

This post was by myself, and had nothing to do with FM team wanting anything. I wanted honest opinions and I think I got them! Thank you for you comments everyone, I feel this Thread now needs to be locked......

+1

Quote from Crazy Harry :

I am really oval addicted so I want to stay on that server. A few days and better times later that guy called "Failure" told me "Join our Ventrilo Server for better racing". I asked him why. To hear the "F**ks" and "S**ts" from others too? He sayed that they warn each other and have a good time (with free chicks, free drinks and stuff) together. I never used something like this and I was a little bit shy. But I installed ventrilo (www.fragmaster.net/vt) and I was very impressed.

:P Failure told you about ventrilo?
http://www.fragmaster.net/fm/m ... le=viewthread&tid=622



Everyone was/is welcome, except if those trying to publish nazi things or are to bored in life and just want to annoy other people!

There are several teams who found there home in the FM Community,

and have their own channel

like BBR, [ZWR], (Eagle), [SR] and maybe in the future FPR

I just wanted to mention this, as the thread is not just meant about the FM Team, over the FM Community as well!!

And where many people meet, there are allways people you dont like or you dont come along with, some with a big mouth, some with

not a big mouth, so if people see the FM Community they shouldnt just think at the people they may dont like. FM is a community

where everyone can publish his thoughts free, not a community where everyone has to have the same opinion about everything and

just walking up the developers ass. As i can see it to much in some forums in these days...

Last edited by Nobo, Fri 21 Jul 2006, 15:54.

I might be wrong, but if you have to practice for something to be good in it, that means you need skill to be good in it. And to run within 0.1 of the wr doesnt mean you are a good LFS Oval, driver, that needs much more, a special overview, which a lot of good circuit drivers allready proofed on the JuNkIeS server that they dont have this.

A wonder that this thread isnt closed yet.

@ SamH

Yeah i agree in some points you said, not completely, especially on point 3 i'm doing not, because, my experiences in public circuit races are that its even worse then on the oval.

I pointed out my point of view because i read this sentence before : "the current oval requires zero skill level"

wasnt from you.

@ SamH:

Yeah everyone can have hís opinion about something. But when you never have driven the cars on the oval to a limit, you cant say how much skill it really needs. I can do a lap at Blackwood in 3 Mins with the BF1 and can say oh yes BL GP doesnt need some skill at all! Thats the same.
There were a lot of Oval events in the past from the FM community almost allways the same drivers were on top, like (Eagle)Racer, Quietscheente or (FM)Evensis, so you need no skill? So it just has been luck that those were allways on top!?
Yesterday i had a league race on Ky National Rev. with FXR...a car turnded right into me, because he couldnt handle the dense traffic...and thats really a skill you are leaning on the oval.

In the end, if you want to be TOP in something you need skill for everything. Just saying the Oval needs no skill because of only 3 left turns is not true.

Dont care about that server m8! I've been banned there for asking, why he banned the winner :P

Totally agree!!! We need the virtual mirror! Chase view drivers unite!!!
Even the tyre cam has the mirror!!!!!

Aspects for chase view allready mentioned, nothing more to say





...and like someone said in another thread. If you dont take away something, you dont hurt anyone! So please give us the mirror!
Its not only that it helps the chase view drivers like me, its good for everyone!!

Last edited by Nobo, Sun 16 Jul 2006, 17:44.

But i think i speak for thge admins....you can still sign up for the waiting list

How did Scawen wrote yesterday in another thread. This is another banned for no reason thread! Its between the banned people and the server owner and no general discussion :P

Sorry to hear that there is somethong with your brother, but especially in this situation you should give a **** about the ban! Contact the admins at www.fragmaster.net , explain your situation and be happy on the oval again!!

We are doing this F1 qualifying in the SimFIA:F1 series....but unfortunately the admin has to do this by hand...
but its great fun!

There are a lot of chase view drivers out there! And their only request for future patches is the virtual mirror. So my request is the virtual mirror for chase view!!! Or if not, then delete it from tyre-view as well!!

Quote from Chris_Kerry :

I think I know enough of the basic concept, The Very End has a server named close to yours (FM), because you've had a fallout.

Even so, he can call his server what he wants.

The only funny thing is that The Very End wants to make a server where he will not ban anyone. But who knows him a bit that he was often the one on FM servers who started the vote ban and was complaining about the idiots. Now i find it funny that he is complaining about that shit, but was involved himself illepall

I think its good OM has its own server now So FM has some problems less

But they said themselves they in a previous post that they dont want to be a copy of FM, so why do they copy the whole system how FM servers are running, and copy name and colours, very funny illepall

I say again noone has a problem with a new Oval Server named Oval munkies, the only thing is that the hosts are complaining about the things on FM servers, and in these things they were involved!!!!!